EQ2 vs WoW

[effee]

Which do you think will be better? Whats making me lean to EQ2 is the fact that it doesnt use regionalised servers unlike WoW

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

WoW for me...easier to solo/lvl

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

WoW for sure. Regionalized servers are bad? Seems like I'd prefer lower ping and getting to play with people in my area. You're free to play on whatever server you want (If you're in the US you could play on a Euro server for example).

 

[Malladine]

EQ2

 

[Bateluer]

I hear WoW is very simplistic. I like a little complexity in my games, keeps me interested longer. EQ2 is what I have on preorder.

 

[effee]

Are you sure? I heard that if you are in Asia you can only play on Asian servers..that true?

 

[warcrow]

I'm all about WoW.

 

[effee]

You have a cute fiancee, she looks a teeny bit like nicole kidman

lucky guy

 

[warcrow]

Originally posted by: effee
You have a cute fiancee, she looks a teeny bit like nicole kidman

lucky guy

....all that, and she is a gamer too. Not hardcore like me, but still....she plays. Her most recent venture is Burnout 3 for the PS2. She loves that game.


Yes, I know I'm lucky as hell. So what game are you leaning towards?

 

[Weeeman]

WoW for me.. always enjoyed the WC series and I could never get into EQ -- I'll probably try them both out withing a month of their release

 

[Hadsus]

How's it possible to know which one.......very few people have even sniffed EQ2 while WoW has been stressed tested by thousands of people. One thing that's clear to me about WoW......it's an old school MMORPG. If EQ2 does something innovative and fresh, it will leave WoW and other EQ1 clones in the dust. The clones struggle just to get their game to work properly.....look how long WoW has been in beta. I hoping EQ2 developers can focus more on content and gameplay innovations as they already know how to get a MMORPG to work properly.

 

[Aftermath]

I'll go with EQ2 if I ever kill off my character in Final Fantasy XI. IMO, it seems like the guys behind EQ2 are taking all of their experience with EQ and trying to perfect the finer points, while correcting or tuning up the lesser points. In other words, not trying to re-invent the wheel. I think WoW will have explosive immediate popularity, while EQ2 will blow it away with staying power and overall/ending popularity.

Just my $.02.

 

[Seeruk]

I enjoyed the WOW Stress test immensely (as did my GF) - it seems there was lots to do like quality quests and missions even at the lower levels. Its all about the content, the content from levels 5-12 (as far as I got) were overflowing to the point it wasnt a grind to level as you were distracted all the time by the things you had to do.

Cant judge EQII yet cos I hadnt played it but I do know it will attract all the immature screaming kiddies just like EQ and SWG and that will put me off a lot!!! Eve Online was amazing for 18months for me because most were adult co-operative players, as well as having the depth and content to keep the brain engaged at all times.

So yes I will be buying WOW and still check my mail excitedly every single day for that invite to closed beta

 

[Modeps]

Neither, I'm done playing MMORPGs. Not enough time in the day.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Hadsus
How's it possible to know which one.......very few people have even sniffed EQ2 while WoW has been stressed tested by thousands of people. One thing that's clear to me about WoW......it's an old school MMORPG. If EQ2 does something innovative and fresh, it will leave WoW and other EQ1 clones in the dust. The clones struggle just to get their game to work properly.....look how long WoW has been in beta. I hoping EQ2 developers can focus more on content and gameplay innovations as they already know how to get a MMORPG to work properly.

WoW is hardly an old school game..
it has many many things that are new being tried in this game...
the rest system is very smart and is a blizzard only idea...
The Dungeon system is very smart having static entrances and common areas and then breaking it into instances for just your party.. (has not been done similar to this in other games)
the whole economy thing is very unique to wow.. very few sellable non crafted items in the game... almost all good loot including every day stuff is bind on pickup or bind on equip...
the entire combat systrem is unique to WoW the combat system behind the rogue and warrior speciffically are very cutting edge and fun..
best melee system ever...

Right now I have already payed for wow in full... and being in the closed beta since it was an Alpha.. with the rapid changes and the open beta coming VERY soon... look for this product to hit before Xmas I would bet..
They just pushed another very large patch last night albight a VERY broken one... but they just added item wear which is very borked right now...

EQ2 is a system hog (even on an A64 3400 2 gigs of ram with a FX 6800GT it can chug) its also a very very long grind... which casual gamers have no chance of ever maxing out 1 char let alone trying more than 1... The crafting looks good as do certain other aspects...
but its still EQ1 with a fancy new engine and some new stuff.. long grind with nothing else to do but grind to max level and get the best items and be the first to do things...
my entire guild is in the EQ beta.. and I sit across from a Senior Guide that is in charge of the guides that are working on the EQ2 beta server... I have seen him on the beta server from work... and he says the same thing.. expect a SUPER SUPER long grind... he said each level feels like 2 EQ1 levels...
sorry but Im not going to grind just for the sake of grinding.. L2 was like this with a hollow PVP system and it was not fun...

as of right now I will be going with the game I at least can gain a level or 2 a night even in my 40s
WoW is it for sure...
with the rest system and 200% bonus exp when I get to play alot on weekends and even the normal easier levels the game is fun and not stressful and doesnt punish me if im a casual gamer.
Sony shoulda learned by now...
grind does not = a good game

 

[skace]

Well, I'd be willing to bet on which one will have more unfinished content at release time. Thats all I'm going to say.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Sony shoulda learned by now...
grind does not = a good game

EQ2 will be successful CVSiN, no doubt. They aren't dumb and they love money...

I think comparing EQ2 with L2 is going to prove to be quite inaccurate. L2=a western world FLOP. EQ2 is being built on the ideas behind the most successful western MMO to date.

 

[Hadsus]

CVSin, I don't know how you can call EQ2 a grind and WoW not a grind. WoW is going to be a grind.....that's the way it appeared to me when I stress tested it. They are all grinds.....how else are they going to keep getting your $$$$$. And so what that you can level faster in WoW. You can hyper level in Horizons but it didn't mean much. What matters is what leveling does for your character, not the number of levels you can achieve. And I still believe WoW is old school. All the recently released MMORPGs have a twist here and a twist there....the dungeon system in WoW does look interesting and perhaps worth my investment. But the economy and experience system doesn't jazz me. I played EQ to death and killed a gazillion rats, goblins and spiders. If WoW is going to be like that, count me out.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Hadsus
CVSin, I don't know how you can call EQ2 a grind and WoW not a grind. WoW is going to be a grind.....that's the way it appeared to me when I stress tested it. They are all grinds.....how else are they going to keep getting your $$$$$. And so what that you can level faster in WoW. You can hyper level in Horizons but it didn't mean much. What matters is what leveling does for your character, not the number of levels you can achieve. And I still believe WoW is old school. All the recently released MMORPGs have a twist here and a twist there....the dungeon system in WoW does look interesting and perhaps worth my investment. But the economy and experience system doesn't jazz me. I played EQ to death and killed a gazillion rats, goblins and spiders. If WoW is going to be like that, count me out.

hadsus, if all you killed was stuff like that you hardly played it to death! WoW is a grind, you're right, as are all lvl based games to varying extents. However, lvling faster gives the more casual gamer a feeling of accomplishment after a couple hrs and helps mask the grind. I understand this as being necessary from a business perspective in today's mmo market, although it doesn't affect my wife and I as 2hrs is pretty much nothing when we're into a game

These games will both be huge hits but personally i've almost written WoW off. Open beta is coming though, so who knows.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Hadsus
I played EQ to death and killed a gazillion rats, goblins and spiders. If WoW is going to be like that, count me out.

And what do you think EQ2 is going to be like? Hard leveling and rare drops were Verant's, (and later, Sony's) bread and butter. You think it is going to be some revolutionary game?

 

[effee]

Just look at how EQ1 is still going strong after all these years when the newer MMORPGS (earth and beyond, ac2, shadowbane for example) have all died out, E&B is closed while SB and AC2 have never done well and will no doubt close in the near future.

And EQ has sucky graphics and mindless leveling over and over with hardly any endgame. Still so many people still play it...I think EQ2 will be another hit like the 1st EQ.

 

[CVSiN]

WoW is not a grind at all..
I dont even care about what level I am usally but if i can gain a level in the high 40s in less than 2 hours where the same level in EQ takes 6+ hours.. then me as a casual gamer isnt going to play the longer grind game..

In WoW i stand the chance of making it into the Hero levels and doing epic things..
to make level 100 in EQ just to be able to play... just like EQ1 the game did not even really start till L50.. then L60 and now 65..... they write crappy content for the lower levels and the exciting encounters are all top level based... as is all the epic gear..

WoW does this much differntly..
there are epic encounters from Level 20+ that make me realy feel intertested and fun no matter what level is by my name...
there are Artifact items as low as L20 for those encounters as well...
My L35 Huntress already has 4 artifact items that boost her power considerably compared to normal weps and arnour at that level..

that makes you as a player feel you are accomplishing things...
EQ and EQ2 are nothing but a race to top level so you can be the one to do the epic encounters....
I had 2 accounts full of L60s on fen ro.. In the Uber guild that was first in fear... first in Hate... first to kill both dragons.. first to kill trak etc etc etc...
the only fun thing about the game were those encounters...
everything else was pure teduim...
yet the want to achive those things kept me driving through all the BS over 6 times to max level...

WoW on the other hand I find myself just enjoying the trip to L60...
Im not in a huge rush but I do like the feeling of accomplishment when I can mash out a few levels in 1 sitting on the weekend...

I have played EQ2... the levels are VERY long... and you dont even have your full class till L20...
which is another turn off...
they copied L2 and the way they do classes.. start as 4 very basic classes and branch out till at L20 you finally get your full class and base abilities.... in WoW you start as the class you will take to level 60...

Sorry but i was an EQ fanboy... I played non stop for 5 years including 3 phases of the beta...
They invited me into EQ2 beta.. and its just not doing it for me..

WoW is a better game.. more newbie freindly.. more fun... and better thought out..

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: effee
Just look at how EQ1 is still going strong after all these years when the newer MMORPGS (earth and beyond, ac2, shadowbane for example) have all died out, E&B is closed while SB and AC2 have never done well and will no doubt close in the near future.

And EQ has sucky graphics and mindless leveling over and over with hardly any endgame. Still so many people still play it...I think EQ2 will be another hit like the 1st EQ.

hardly any end game?
are you crazy?
thats all EQ has is endgame...
planes and dragons and rare encounters are all high end content...
there is enough High end content to keep even the biggest Uber guild busy every single night....

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
WoW is a better game.. more newbie freindly.. more fun... and better thought out..

better IYO

 

[Hadsus]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Hadsus
CVSin, I don't know how you can call EQ2 a grind and WoW not a grind. WoW is going to be a grind.....that's the way it appeared to me when I stress tested it. They are all grinds.....how else are they going to keep getting your $$$$$. And so what that you can level faster in WoW. You can hyper level in Horizons but it didn't mean much. What matters is what leveling does for your character, not the number of levels you can achieve. And I still believe WoW is old school. All the recently released MMORPGs have a twist here and a twist there....the dungeon system in WoW does look interesting and perhaps worth my investment. But the economy and experience system doesn't jazz me. I played EQ to death and killed a gazillion rats, goblins and spiders. If WoW is going to be like that, count me out.

hadsus, if all you killed was stuff like that you hardly played it to death! WoW is a grind, you're right, as are all lvl based games to varying extents. However, lvling faster gives the more casual gamer a feeling of accomplishment after a couple hrs and helps mask the grind. I understand this as being necessary from a business perspective in today's mmo market, although it doesn't affect my wife and I as 2hrs is pretty much nothing when we're into a game

These games will both be huge hits but personally i've almost written WoW off. Open beta is coming though, so who knows.

I played a shammy to 55 in EQ.....pretty much untwinked.....took a good long time. And it was a grind, though I know going to 60 and beyond is an uber grind. I really shoulda quit at 50 because it just got boring. I played Horizons recently and leveled my character like no other MMORPG I tried.....into the 30's in no time at all. I got no satisfaction from leveling quickly because my abilities/character didn't grow much....pretty much the same skills but more powerful to kill more powerful creatures.

In addition to Horizons, I also tried FFXI, AC2, AO, DAoC and quite honestly I don't see much of any difference between those and WoW. WoW is very polished, even in its beta stage. But I didn't care for the cartoonish graphics......detracts from immersion and isn't that what MMORPGs are all about? Making you feel like you live in a different world? A cartoon world? And the general gameplay wasn't any better or different than the MMORPGs I tried. Maybe I'm being premature because the final product hasn't been released. But I was expecting much more from Blizzard and was very dissapointed by, what appeared to me, to be a 'me too' game.