[engadget] Origin PC drops AMD graphics options due to feedback, support woes

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blackened23 said:
Dude, we get it. Nvidia employees, focus group etc etc etc. I don't really think pointing this out incessantly has any substance or anything interesting about it. Go the CPU subforum and you'll see the exact opposite situation, it's pretty hilarious. Anyway, I'm personally more interested in posts with substance instead of continually doing...what you're doing. Even if it's an argumentative tone, posts with substance are interesting to read. This isn't. No offense or anything.
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Offense taken.....you are not a moderator.Seems you are campaigning to be one...

Stop preaching to me though.:thumbsdown:

Teizo said:
Sure, and even if Nvidia offered them incentive to get an exclusive deal....how the heck do you think AMD got the exclusive deals for both consoles? You think there wasn't a bidding war? AMD just went lower than Nvidia was willing to, so they pulled out.
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Maybe Mantle will pay off for AMD,who knows?

Keysplayr said:
I can't believe you think it failed. It was a raging success! A mountain of publicity. Probably more than that CEO ever expected.
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Not all publicity is good:cool:.It can backfire....
 
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Teizo said:
Sure, and even if Nvidia offered them incentive to get an exclusive deal....how the heck do you think AMD got the exclusive deals for both consoles? You think there wasn't a bidding war? AMD just went lower than Nvidia was willing to, so they pulled out.
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AFAIK, nVidia was never in the running. They don't have X86 hardware.
 
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Teizo said:
Sure, and even if Nvidia offered them incentive to get an exclusive deal....how the heck do you think AMD got the exclusive deals for both consoles? You think there wasn't a bidding war? AMD just went lower than Nvidia was willing to, so they pulled out.
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Seriously? You're comparing a legitimate bidding process with NVidia (supposedly) bribing a company to drop their competitor? Those things bear no resemblance.
 
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Keysplayr said:
Hehe Lonyo, the only people who have formed a negative opinion toward Origin are AMD loyalists. Otherwise who would care? I mean is it really any kind of "big whoop" to a neutral party? I should think not. And the thing of it is, OriginPC can still build AMD rigs if they want to.
The only thing that was dodgy was the CEO using this as a publicity stunt. Yeah, he could have handled it better, but chose a more controversial approach. Positive or negative, attention is still attention and the more AMD loyalists kick and scream about it, the more he gets. Keep that in mind.
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Frankly, anyone who cares about the free market should care about allegations of bribery, not just "AMD loyalists".
 
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NTMBK said:
Frankly, anyone who cares about the free market should care about allegations of bribery, not just "AMD loyalists".
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lol if you paid attention to every unproven allegation you read on internet you'd not have time to be posting here.
 
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NTMBK said:
Frankly, anyone who cares about the free market should care about allegations of bribery, not just "AMD loyalists".
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Chuckly, it was most likely the AMD loyalists who started the allegations in the first place. That is my allegation.
 
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NTMBK said:
(supposedly)
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Or, you could have said "allegedly, according to 'sources' on the internet partial to AMD"

One is a legitimate bidding war Nvidia lost. The other is (probably) a made up internet story. Yeah. You are right. They bear no resemblance.
 
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This is a weird announcement. They are dropping AMD just when a lot of the existing issues are getting ironed-out (CF frames, etc.). I would not be surprised if this was an OEM for custom laptop builds because AMD has been pretty piss-poor on the mobile side for a long time. CF issues, bad power management, performance issues not addressed, etc. Some of these have been addressed, but NV is much stronger on mobile, discrete options.

Dropping AMD on desktops is really odd. At best, NV has been on-par with them for thew past year or so, but I would give the edge to AMD in the past couple years. CF stuttering is a problem, but not a huge market opts for that plus not everyone even notices that. General drivers for AMD discrete options on Desktop have been fantastic too.

I almost wonder if this is just a cost issue. From a custom builder's standpoint, it will be cheaper (and easier) to support one company in their builds. The downside is that if AMD hits a home run, they are not offering their cards and could lose potential customers. BUT expensive system builders who drop $3k+ are often clueless, or just don't care anyways...:p
 
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Why would they do a press release about this? That is suspious to say the least. It puts both OrginPC and Nvidia in a bad light. That's how I see it.
 
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Publicity! :)

To be honest though, all of the publicity has been them doing damage control. Not what a company should be striving for.
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As I've said we did card changes usually every six months at Falcon - there would be no announcements; just change overs. whatever was the fastest for Mach V.

The fact is - AMD used Origin for give-aways and other things. To say they would ignore them I'd say is laughable at best. This is plain and simple damage control - they got caught *imho*

Its going to be interesting how this ends up burning Origin far more than Nvidia.
 
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Anshel: Obviously NVIDIA is getting bombarded with media asking if they gave you a large incentive to drop AMD, how does this reflect your relationship with NVIDIA?

Kevin: Our relationship with NVIDIA has not changed at all.
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Nicely dodged, 10/10.
 
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Actually, he didn't "dodge".

Anshel: Some say that you were paid by Nvidia to drop AMD as a GPU vendor, is this true? Have you made any monetary benefits as a result of making the switch to Nvidia?
Kevin: It is absolutely not true that NVIDIA paid us to drop AMD and I can assure you we have not received any monetary benefits. In fact, I called my NVIDIA rep and informed them that we were dropping AMD. NVIDIA did not ask us to drop AMD. I find it interesting that not a single person has been quoted on any of those false allegations. There is simply no proof of this.
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Dribble said:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...views-origin-pc-ceo-on-dropping-amd-gpus.aspx
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It should not be so difficult to ask origin pc if they got some benefits, monetary or not monetary, from nv to send all those pr out. And if the pr announcement was coordinated.

But aparently it is. The stupid question is then: did you reciewe anything to drop amd. As if that was interesting. And the usual answer follows:

"we have not received any monetary benefits"

Monetary benefits.

Go guess.
 
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AnandThenMan said:
I continue to marvel at how bizarre this statement is.
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Can anyone offer some theories/speculation as what kind of motivation is even possible to lead someone to call the rep to inform the rep that AMD was being dropped?

Perhaps they are acquaintances, I know it seems plausible that reps would at least want to schmooze with their clients for good business relationships. Maybe it was just a heads-up from one friend to another?
 
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KingFatty said:
Can anyone offer some theories/speculation as what kind of motivation is even possible to lead someone to call the rep to inform the rep that AMD was being dropped?

Perhaps they are acquaintances, I know it seems plausible that reps would at least want to schmooze with their clients for good business relationships. Maybe it was just a heads-up from one friend to another?
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Perhaps it was to expand their order. "Hey, we have decided to drop AMD GPUs altogether. We are going to need more parts." Or, maybe, "Hey, we are announcing tomorrow we've decided to drop AMD GPUs altogether. This is a heads up for some possible PR backlash for you to forward up the chain."

Nope, it has to be Nvidia scheming against AMD. No way somebody would normally dislike AMD unless they were being paid to right?
 
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smackababy said:
Perhaps it was to expand their order. "Hey, we have decided to drop AMD GPUs altogether. We are going to need more parts."
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Nvidia doesnt sell cards directly, they sell chips to venders that then make cards that retailers buy. So this theory doesnt make any sense.


smackababy said:
Or, maybe, "Hey, we are announcing tomorrow we've decided to drop AMD GPUs altogether. This is a heads up for some possible PR backlash for you to forward up the chain."
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I guess this is possible... but again doesnt make much sense.
 
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Arkadrel said:
Nvidia doesnt sell cards directly, they sell chips to venders that then make cards that retailers buy. So this theory doesnt make any sense.
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An Nvidia "rep" is someone that sells Nvidia-based cards to Origin. He didn't call Nvidia headquarters directly. For all we know, his Nvidia rep is someone who sells EVGA cards.

And a lot of you people need to understand the whole "innocent until proven guilty" concept. You stand with no facts, only insubstantial evidence made up in your minds. Why don't you join us in the real world.
 
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