End Social Security

[Incorruptible]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlblduvPeCs

Social security is stealing from the young to give to the poor. It is robbing the younger generations especially since there will be nothing left for them. People shoudl be able to plan there own future and save by themselves not the government stealing from them.

People need to be self reliant instead of on the government. As well Social security is bankrupting this country and is wrong.

Do you agree that social security must be ended?

 

[diesbudt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlblduvPeCs

Social security is stealing from the young to give to the poor. It is robbing the younger generations especially since there will be nothing left for them. People shoudl be able to plan there own future and save by themselves not the government stealing from them.

People need to be self reliant instead of on the government. As well Social security is bankrupting this country and is wrong.

Do you agree that social security must be ended?

Needs to be reformed. Not Ended.

 

[monovillage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlblduvPeCs

Social security is stealing from the young to give to the poor. It is robbing the younger generations especially since there will be nothing left for them. People shoudl be able to plan there own future and save by themselves not the government stealing from them.

People need to be self reliant instead of on the government. As well Social security is bankrupting this country and is wrong.

Do you agree that social security must be ended?

You're falling out of character here.

 

[Incorruptible]

You're falling out of character here.

How so? There really is no character that I follow

 

[soulcougher73]

Nope. All we need to do is plug the hole Reagan created to fund other programs. It was set up to be self sufficient.

Most people are too stupid for us to expect everyone to save for the future. It would be wonderful if this were not true, but it is what it is.

 

[Incorruptible]

Nope. All we need to do is plug the hole Reagan created to fund other programs. It was set up to be self sufficient.

Most people are too stupid for us to expect everyone to save for the future. It would be wonderful if this were not true, but it is what it is.

Let people suffer from there own actions. I shouldn't have to pay for this nonsense.

End social security and get those lazy leeches off of it now

 

[waggy]

Nope. All we need to do is plug the hole Reagan created to fund other programs. It was set up to be self sufficient.

Most people are too stupid for us to expect everyone to save for the future. It would be wonderful if this were not true, but it is what it is.

it wasn't just reagan. once started there was no stopping taking from it.

you wan't to end it? sure pay me what i put in over the years i worked first.

 

[a777pilot]

Yes, it needs to be ended and replaced with a system that is sustainable. This could be done over a period of 40 years. All we need to do is have leadership and courage to start the process.

 

[Incorruptible]

it wasn't just reagan. once started there was no stopping taking from it.

you wan't to end it? sure pay me what i put in over the years i worked first.

I have no problem with the people paying into it and getting it back but have the younger generations opt out and refund them whatever they put in.

End social security. Social Security is a ponzi scheme

 

[HendrixFan]

Having a social safety net like SS is a good thing. It provides stability which is good for any society and is extremely beneficial to business, as volatility is always bad for business.

It does need to be reformed so that when it runs a surplus (like it has for generations) it can't be dipped into for other expenses.

End social security. Social Security is a ponzi scheme

A ponzi scheme doesn't run a legitimate surplus for 40+ years.

 

[feralkid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlblduvPeCs

Social security is stealing from the young to give to the poor. It is robbing the younger generations especially since there will be nothing left for them. People shoudl be able to plan there own future and save by themselves not the government stealing from them.

People need to be self reliant instead of on the government. As well Social security is bankrupting this country and is wrong.

Do you agree that social security must be ended?

I've been contributing to Social Security for over 40 years.



Get off my lawn, punk!

 

[CrackRabbit]

The only thing that really needs to be ended is your posting ability.

I do agree with other posters that there is certainly room for reform of the SS system though.

 

[child of wonder]

Social Security needs to be reformed. As it stands now, as a 33 year old I very highly doubt SS will still be solvent in 30+ years when I would start to draw from it unless something is changed.

 

[Incorruptible]

Having a social safety net like SS is a good thing. It provides stability which is good for any society and is extremely beneficial to business, as volatility is always bad for business.

It does need to be reformed so that when it runs a surplus (like it has for generations) it can't be dipped into for other expenses.



A ponzi scheme doesn't run a legitimate surplus for 40+ years.

Why? It only encourages people to be lazy. The program is flawed.

Its still a ponzi scheme and must be ended, I cant blame corporations for putting there money overseas when there money is used for crap like this

 

[CrackRabbit]

Why? It only encourages people to be lazy. The program is flawed.

Its still a ponzi scheme and must be ended, I cant blame corporations for putting there money overseas when there money is used for crap like this

OK genius, exactly how much money do YOU have put away for retirement?

Is it enough to eek out a meager living while dealing with inflation and healthcare costs?

 

[glenn1]

A ponzi scheme doesn't run a legitimate surplus for 40+ years.

It is a Ponzi scheme because the surplus isn't going to the "investors," but the creator of the scheme (in this case, the government's general fund) which is entirely the point of the exercise.

 

[Incorruptible]

OK genius, exactly how much money do YOU have put away for retirement?

Is it enough to eek out a meager living while dealing with inflation and healthcare costs?

I have no problem saving for retirement and am more than able to do it myself. I dont expect or want help from the government.

Let people plan there own retirement, not the government. This is a violation of freedom and another reason to
END SOCIAL SECURITY

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why? It only encourages people to be lazy. The program is flawed.

Its still a ponzi scheme and must be ended, I cant blame corporations for putting there money overseas when there money is used for crap like this

How does it encourage people to be lazy? Then any investment would be considered the same.

You suck at trolling.

 

[Incorruptible]

How does it encourage people to be lazy? Then any investment would be considered the same.

You suck at trolling.

Because they wont plan there own retirement and expect the government to pay for everything, leeches

I am not trolling

 

[Anarchist420]

It's something that can't be sustained as it is and eventually the govt is just going to raise the payroll tax or cut benefits for all seniors equally when means testing should be done and would also save more money than an across the board 10% cut.

Doing what bush advocated would be just as bad because it has to be with investments favored by the govt and because keeping your own money would still be illegal. One thing I dont like about Gary Johnson is that he was kind of establishment on this issue.

That said, Ive given up hope and I'm expecting that it will either become a fascist system or payroll taxes will go up in which case there won't be much of a point in working.

 

[Moonbeam]

I me me mine. What are you going to do if you get kicked in the head by a donkey and can't even sign your name, but you can sit in the park and play with children and make them feel joyously good. I guess we'll just have to haul you away and throw you in a dumpster as befitting some impecunious prick.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why? It only encourages people to be lazy. The program is flawed.

How does it encourage people to be lazy? The more you make the more you pay in and the more you get back when you are eligiable. When not messed with (Thanks Reagan), its basically a big savings account for retirement. Sure its not voluntary, but it is still a good thing.

Doing away with it would just have more people on welfare instead when they are old and without money. But now tax payers have to pick up the tab.

You havent thought this one all the way through i can see.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yes, it needs to be ended and replaced with a system that is sustainable. This could be done over a period of 40 years. All we need to do is have leadership and courage to start the process.

I doesn't even need 40 years or your other BS. Raise the friggin cap!!!!!!!!!

Yur done.

 

[shira]

I have no problem with the people paying into it and getting it back but have the younger generations opt out and refund them whatever they put in.

End social security. Social Security is a ponzi scheme

So explain to us how those who have been paying (along with their employers) into SS for the past 40 years are supposed to "get back" what they paid in when you allow the younger generation to opt out. Remember, almost all the money paid into SS by 60+ somethings has already been paid out.

 

[Wreckem]

Social Security only needs minor changes to make it sustainable indefinately.

One is to slightly raise the retirement to 69.5 for those under 50.

The other is raise/do away with the cap what income is taxed for FICA purposes.

SS should NOT be means tested like the republicans want to do and everyone should have to pay the % on all income no matter the income level. Republicans only want to means test so they can justify the rich only paying FICA taxes on income only up to ~$105k or whatever its currently set at.