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End of the manual transmission

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while i won't give up my manual for anything. If i'm trying to get the fastest times possible on the track, i don't think you can beat a dct
 
My Speed6 might get driven in to the ground since the current selection of stickshift vehicles is pretty laughable unless you want to start dropping 50k+
 
hans007 said:
I've read stories online about how the "millennial" generation when polled think of cars as a hassle and just a chore in life.
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this - i know quite a few 15-16 year old kids who couldn't care less about getting their license.
 
One of the biggest advantages of having a manual is your car is less likely to be liberated from you. Most car thieves don't know how to drive a car with a manual.

It to bad they are slowly going away. I will only buy a car with a manual which make my vehicle section a lot easier.

And how about this. I recently started going out with a woman born in Italy. She only knows how to drive a manual. She has no concept of how to drive an automatic. She's a keeper.
 
imagoon said:
My Speed6 might get driven in to the ground since the current selection of stickshift vehicles is pretty laughable unless you want to start dropping 50k+
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Definitely for normal mid sized cars. I don't think the current Gen Camry can be bought manual. When I got my a4 there wasn't one in CA in manual have to order it basically. There is one Mercedes total in manual now the slk250.

I guess there is the brz impreza etc and civic class cars but even that is shrinking
 
vshah said:
this - i know quite a few 15-16 year old kids who couldn't care less about getting their license.
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I find that so weird. At that age I thought a car was freedom. Didn't have a car until I was 20 due to $. How do kids get around these days? The bus? I hated public transit as a kid. Kids these day... bieber, no cars and skrillex wtf
 
Current car is a manual. Unless my next car is sporty, probably looking at an automatic but that's a long time from now.
 
I used to dislike automatics, but since driving a 2005 A4 where the automatic actually seemed to work smoothly, I have kinda come around. Still prefer manual, but it's not like I get much fun out of it in regular traffic. Overall they just don't seem to make the kind of car I'd want to buy: cheap, light, raw, low tech, good handling. The Toyota/Subaru collaboration is a step in that direction, but still seems too pricy and too bloated.

What automatic really has going for it is what WackyDan said: it's more reliable, you can drive it even with a busted arm or leg. That's not just convenience or saving on taxi bills, but safety. What if you need to drive yourself to the hospital?
 
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hans007 said:
Definitely for normal mid sized cars. I don't think the current Gen Camry can be bought manual. When I got my a4 there wasn't one in CA in manual have to order it basically. There is one Mercedes total in manual now the slk250.

I guess there is the brz impreza etc and civic class cars but even that is shrinking
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I think I own the only manual transmission Camry built in this century.
At least in my state.
 
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NutBucket said:
Nah, my parents had one too (2001 IIRC). Having a manual in that car does NOT improve the driving experience one bit.
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i have a friend in the bay area who has like a 2005 manual camry .

he autocrosses it amazingly. but i guess he's some sort of camry fan boy (which i did not know existed until i met him) and apparently the current gen one has no manual option at all so he was really disappointed since he wanted a new one.

manual really is good in say a sportier car. like a manual in a midsize sedan might actaully be bad for resale. friend of mine bought the current hyundai sonata in manual. or well leased it. the dealer said it might have been one of the first manual sonata's sold in CA (it was about am onth after release) and he leased it figuring it' be completely impossible to sell a midsize sedan in manual which was a complete stripper model (manual is only on the absolute cheapest sonata trim) in the future since he didnt plan to keep the sonata for more than 3 years.

this other friend of mine i thought was a bit ridiculous since i was thinking, wait you are going to lease a boring sedan, why not lease something interesting if you are gonna swap cars every 3 years.
 
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vshah said:
this - i know quite a few 15-16 year old kids who couldn't care less about getting their license.
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Back when I was a kid being social meant something different than it does today. We didn't even have cell phones back then, if your buddies weren't home when you called about the only thing you could do was walk, pedal or drive around town looking for them. Anymore when a kid says he's going to hang out with his friends it means he's sending text messages or reading about what his friends are reading about on facebook.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
If you're stuck in traffic every day it does get old quickly.
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I didn't mind. Well, that's after I got rid of the old Mustang GT with the super stiff clutch. Since then, I haven't minded driving manual transmission vehicles in traffic, even stop/go.

imagoon said:
My Speed6 might get driven in to the ground since the current selection of stickshift vehicles is pretty laughable unless you want to start dropping 50k+
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Hey, another Speed6 owner in da houze!
 
all my cars have been manual

civic
tsx
mazda3
Miata

the civic was my daily driver and even after being stuck in daily traffic for 3 years, i'm not tired of driving a manual.
i now take public transit to my current job.
 
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hans007 said:
I find that so weird. At that age I thought a car was freedom. Didn't have a car until I was 20 due to $. How do kids get around these days? The bus? I hated public transit as a kid. Kids these day... bieber, no cars and skrillex wtf
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When I was 15 I used to get wet dreams over the day I'd turn 16 and get my license. I felt worthless when I was 15 and my other friends were 16 driving, because I was. There was pre and post-license existence. Everything, the world, hinged upon acquiring license at 16. What are 16 year olds doing now, asking Mommy to drive them to gamestop to get the latest PS3 release?
Driving an auto is... boring.

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A lot of people with very fast cars that have autos would disagree.
 
i have a manual in my truck and two automatic cars. they all have their own strengths. i dont mind driving my truck in rush hour city traffic, its not that bad. the cars are both pretty fun to drive as it is, and i know they would both be more fun with manual transmissions. but i dont really miss it when im in them, either.
 
Zap said:
I didn't mind. Well, that's after I got rid of the old Mustang GT with the super stiff clutch. Since then, I haven't minded driving manual transmission vehicles in traffic, even stop/go.



Hey, another Speed6 owner in da houze!
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#173 off the line! 81k miles I have put on it so far, bought it new.
 
Having a manual transmission keeps my woman from driving my car. She is scary bad at driving. I know how I will die someday, as a passenger in her car screaming as we swerve in to oncoming traffic/off a bridge/in to a warp storm.
 
Malfeas said:
Having a manual transmission keeps my woman from driving my car. She is scary bad at driving. I know how I will die someday, as a passenger in her car screaming as we swerve in to oncoming traffic/off a bridge/in to a warp storm.
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lol wut!
 
never understood this whole automatic / manual debate in the USA. 95% of the cars here are still manual. I drive one, my parents drive one and my grandfather drove one until he died. We drive them in the daily traffic jams and I never hear someone complain that he/she has leg problems from pressing a clutch pedal. 98% of the cars here come as manual and the auto is just an option. If they would do it the other way around they wouldn't sell any cars. The only thing that is gaining some popularity are the faster dual clutch systems but for the most part it's manual all the way here. Standard driving license is done here on a manual and if you do it on an auto you are prohibited of driving a manual!!!

I actually don't know anyone driving an auto
 
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