End of the manual transmission

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Doppel, May 3, 2012.

  1. sdifox

    sdifox No Lifer

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    where is "here"?
     
  2. freegeeks

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    Belgium
     
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    I've owned 3 manual transmission vehicles & enjoyed them in the 90's. My last 4 vehicles have been automatics & I appreciate the convenience.

    If I were to pick up a sports car, it would probably be a different story. Seems like there are a few sports cars out there that no longer benefit from the manual transmission like they used to (thinking of one of the Lambo's in particular).
     
  4. Doppel

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    People here can barely move their legs.

    But seriously I'm not quite sure why such the discrepancy.
     
  5. sdifox

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    what is your daily commute dist and time?
     
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    160 km, 2h15 minutes round trip

    my point is, driving a manual as a daily is not an issue, even in traffic jams
    I don't understand the argument that a manual is in some way a "problem" as a daily driver

    tens of millions of Europeans, Asians, Africans, ... do it every day
     
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    I travel 25 km in 1 hour going... 1.5 back

    not a problem, but a hassle for sure.
     
  8. Zap

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    It's like that in the Philippines too. I vacationed there two years ago, and pretty much all vehicles were manuals.

    It's a first world problem, for sure.
     
  9. Throckmorton

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    I prefer a manual in gridlocked traffic. My foot gets tired mashing the brake.
     
  10. KentState

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    Now that I work downtown, I've been taking the park and ride bus and then train into town. I have been watching commuters and their behaviors out the windows. Frankly, 9/10 are messing around on their phone or eating which leaves little time for activities like operating a manual. I am really amazed at how driving has become a background activity to more important activities like texting.
     
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    If you want a rent a cheaper car in Germany to drive on the Autobahn, like say a VW Golf or Audi A3, then you better know how to drive stick.

    Manual driver = safer, more engaged driver who pays attention.

    If the manufacturer doesn't offer a stick, I'm personally not interested.
     
  12. thedarkwolf

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    LOL I was going to make some smart ass remark along the same lines. It does take more effort to push the brake pedal than the clutch anymore. Seriously I could understand people bitching about their clutch legs getting tired back when mechanical clutches were the norm but not with hydraulic clutches. An 80 year old granny with a bad hip can handle one all day without issues. Quit using traffic as as an excuse.
     
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    My vehicles were 100% manual from 1998 to 2009. I love manual. I miss manual.

    People who complain about manual in traffic are probably doing it wrong.

    I went to full size truck and none have manual option (not buying 250 or 350). It was a sad, sad day. Couple times a year now I'll drive a manual ...
     
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    that's because their suburbianite parents bought toyota camrys, SUVs, and minivans.
    I'm pretty sure you have to have MT for a car to be exciting.
     
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    on the contrary, I learned to drive stick in one of those in Great Britain. Quite a rush trying to learn clutching and foreign road traffic signs and roundabouts all at the same time!
     
  16. Doppel

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    I drove a manual in gridlock for years. I didn't complain much, but I would never pretend that an automatic is not preferable in gridlock traffic and I can't believe some of you are pretending that. An automatic is better in gridlock traffic.
     
  17. IGemini

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    It's not that manual sucks in gridlock traffic, it sucks in stop-and-go traffic. It's annoying to hit every red light in a manual...for us newbies to it anyway. I'm not conditioned to get it going 100% of the time instantly...yet. Then again the clutch I'm using changes almost every time.

    But I used to leg press over five times my weight, I don't complain about the brake.