Emo music

[mattocs]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.

Pretty much. The bands the OP mentioned are not emo, but are pop bands.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.

QFT.

It happens all too often when the retards of the general public and marketing get a hold of something not meant for them...

 

[batmang]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: batmang

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.

Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?

Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.

wrong.

Your wrong

nope. how the hell is punk rock "emo" ? i too am tired of the label "emo". there are so many different styles of music that the label emo doesnt even fit anything anymore.
bands that fit the indie rock genre somehow got throw into the "emo" genre. now soft punk music is "emo", heavy pop is "emo", heavy screamo rock is "emo", blah. emo is lame as fvck.

 

[AMDZen]

You guys are so clueless

Please educate yourselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.

Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.

/thread

 

[AMDZen]

I'd go so far as to say that the two bands the OP mentioned is the absolute epitome of "emo" as we know it in the 21st century (as it has changed). With Good Charlotte taking the EMO crown.

 

[wheresmybacon]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: batmang

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.

Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?

Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.

wrong.

Your wrong

thus sayeth the head of the emo council. :roll:

as someone else already said, i think black flag, misfits, and a host of other real punk bands would have something to say about your assertion that "punk music is emo"

 

[batmang]

ugh, the term emo needs to die.

 

[AMDZen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28mus..._third_wave_.282000.E2.80.93Present.29

emo has often been used to describe such bands as The Academy Is..., The All-American Rejects, AFI, Alexisonfire, Armor For Sleep, Brand New, Coheed and Cambria, Death Cab For Cutie, The Early November, Fall Out Boy, From First to Last, Funeral for a Friend, Hawthorne Heights, Motion City Soundtrack, My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Senses Fail, Something Corporate, The Starting Line, Story of the Year, Taking Back Sunday, The Used, Thrice, Thursday, and Underoath.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: batmang

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.

Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?

Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.

wrong.

Your wrong

thus sayeth the head of the emo council. :roll:

as someone else already said, i think black flag, misfits, and a host of other real punk bands would have something to say about your assertion that "punk music is emo"

They were too. Times DO CHANGE. Even if you think you live in a time vaccum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28mus..._third_wave_.282000.E2.80.93Present.29

As I said, educate yourself. What person A considers emo isn't going to be the same as person B, but most people would classify nearly all of the new wave punk crap on the alternative radio these days as EMO. And they would also classify the misfits as emo, but emo from the 90's as opposed to the 2000's

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless

Please educate yourselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.

Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.

/thread

the people who FOLLOW the music may dress the emo way.. but that doesn't make the band emo, dumbass.
maybe back in the mid 90's they would be, but with each generation, emo as a genre changes. currently emo means deep emotional lyrics, hawthorne heights being about the only band in the category of 'emo' that truely is emo.
AAR, Fall Out Boy, etc etc, are not emo.. their song meanings are not emo. learn to interpret lyrics, if you even have tried. those bands are all just new-age pop-punk/pop-rock, not punk, and not emo.
punk, is not emo... punk typically has the absense of emotional ties in the lyrics. well, the only emotion being hatred. but songs about hatred typically aren't considered emo, or else most of that craptacular thug-rap would be emo since all they do is foam from the mouth about eachother in their 'songs' and talk about whores and drugs and other sh!t.
okay, off from my soap box... i still think people who classify punk and pop-punk and pop-rock as being emo have no idea what emo as a musical genre represents.
the musical genre and clothing style do NOT go hand-in-hand in all cases, as there are many cases where people dress emo and listen to non-emo music, such as AAR and similarly lumped bands.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.

pretty much
people don't even know what it is. MTV got ahold of the term and killed it.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless

Please educate yourselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.

Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.

/thread

You can take the term "EMO" back to the early days of DC hardcore even. Teen idols, Fugazi etc.. .that is "emo" and certainly "punk"

While I normally agree with Wiki, that definition is pretty lacking.
yes I know what I'm talking about too... I'm and old punk kid that grew up with "Emo" and "punk" and still listens to it religiously. The terms are VERY broad and widely encompassing of MANY different styles of music. The OP, much like every other poster on this forum or the internet in general commenting on Emo or Punk don't know WTF they are talking about.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Although I agree, the term emo was originally coined because of the new wave punk scene, to describe (depending on who you talk to) the people who listen to it and dress the same way or to describe the music itself. It grew from that to encompass goth, and all other forms of emo type music and the majority of people who not only listen to it - but turn it into their lifestyle.

Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...

 

[jmdeathsquad]

they should rename the genre "Suck" because it all sucks.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless

Please educate yourselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.

Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.

/thread

You can take the term "EMO" back to the early days of DC hardcore even. Teen idols, Fugazi etc.. .that is "emo" and certainly "punk"

While I normally agree with Wiki, that definition is pretty lacking.
yes I know what I'm talking about too... I'm and old punk kid that grew up with "Emo" and "punk" and still listens to it religiously. The terms are VERY broad and widely encompassing of MANY different styles of music. The OP, much like every other poster on this forum or the internet in general commenting on Emo or Punk don't know WTF they are talking about.

Did you even read the link, or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%

There is a lot to read there. The scene has changed, it encompasses many genres and sub-genres of both music and fashion. And as I said in my first post, it can be applied as a term to a fashion style as well as various musical genres

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless

Please educate yourselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29

There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.

Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.

/thread

So NOFX and Bad Religion are emo?

 

[Homerboy]

Did you even read the link, or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%

There is a lot to read there. The scene has changed, it encompasses many genres and sub-genres of both music and fashion. And as I said in my first post, it can be applied as a term to a fashion style as well as various musical genres

Umm I was agreeing with you.
Emo and Punk are broad sweeping in their definitions... besides generally labeling music to a SPECIFIC genre is A) stupid B) nearly imossible C) stupid.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Although I agree, the term emo was originally coined because of the new wave punk scene, to describe (depending on who you talk to) the people who listen to it and dress the same way or to describe the music itself. It grew from that to encompass goth, and all other forms of emo type music and the majority of people who not only listen to it - but turn it into their lifestyle.

Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...

Whatever guys, I'm done. What emo WAS and what it IS NOW are two different things. I don't care if you agree with me or not, so I'm done. All of the new wave punk crap music is definetely Emo to me, and a lot of the people who listen to it dress emo - that part of it cannot be contested. If the bands themselves dress emo on stage and so forth, then they are at the very least emo in the fashion sense of the word. Whether you think their music is or not is debateable. Personally I agree with the op, and feel sorry for the guy. I would have to kill my roommate if I had to listen to that sh!t constantly

 

[Homerboy]

Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...

BINGO on the origination of the term... spot on!
(and yeah I lived it too...)

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Did you even read the link, or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%

There is a lot to read there. The scene has changed, it encompasses many genres and sub-genres of both music and fashion. And as I said in my first post, it can be applied as a term to a fashion style as well as various musical genres

Umm I was agreeing with you.
Emo and Punk are broad sweeping in their definitions... besides generally labeling music to a SPECIFIC genre is A) stupid B) nearly imossible C) stupid.

Hehehe, I'm kind of at fault for not reading all of your post. Sorry about that

 

[Homerboy]

Look...
you have POP music (popular) and within that you have "Rock" music... what exactly is "Rock"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?
then you have PUNK music (anti-popular) and within that you have "Emo" music what exactly is "Emo"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?

 

[Homerboy]

Hehehe, I'm kind of at fault for not reading all of your post. Sorry about that

heh and after you tried to nail me for not reading the link(s)... for shame!

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...

BINGO on the origination of the term... spot on!
(and yeah I lived it too...)

That part I would agree with, I kind of mixed what I was saying with the "new wave" punk music and what I meant when I said "wave of punk music". Since emocore and all that was part of the punk music wave

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
Look...
you have POP music (popular) and within that you have "Rock" music... what exactly is "Rock"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?
then you have PUNK music (anti-popular) and within that you have "Emo" music what exactly is "Emo"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?

I would have agreed almost completely with you before the popularity of Good Charlotte, and other such bands like Five Iron Frenzy or Blink 182. Unfortunetly, that was all classified as new wave punk. But after which (blink 182 being the first to be blamed) punk music became pop music. Thats just how it is in the world we live in these days, kids are stupid.

Whats even funnier is the christian rock genre, or christian punk music (yes it exists)

 

[LtPage1]

Both of those bands are way too happy to be emo. Not that they don't suck, but they're not emo.