Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.
Pretty much. The bands the OP mentioned are not emo, but are pop bands.
Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.
Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: batmang
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.
Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?
Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.
wrong.
Your wrong
nope. how the hell is punk rock "emo" ? i too am tired of the label "emo". there are so many different styles of music that the label emo doesnt even fit anything anymore.
bands that fit the indie rock genre somehow got throw into the "emo" genre. now soft punk music is "emo", heavy pop is "emo", heavy screamo rock is "emo", blah. emo is lame as fvck.
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: batmang
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.
Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?
Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.
wrong.
Your wrong
thus sayeth the head of the emo council. :roll:
as someone else already said, i think black flag, misfits, and a host of other real punk bands would have something to say about your assertion that "punk music is emo"
Originally posted by: hungfarover
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: batmang
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: jonessoda
I like the All-American Rejects. And I hate emos. Therefore, the All-American Rejects are not emo. Therefore, this topic is fail.
Maybe you just don't know what your talking about?
Punk music is Emo, All-American douche bags make crappy new wave punk music - therefore they are Emo. And all the 13-14 yo girls that listen to this crap are too. It doesn't mean you have to be emo, but the music definetely is.
wrong.
Your wrong
thus sayeth the head of the emo council. :roll:
as someone else already said, i think black flag, misfits, and a host of other real punk bands would have something to say about your assertion that "punk music is emo"
They were too. Times DO CHANGE. Even if you think you live in a time vaccum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28mus..._third_wave_.282000.E2.80.93Present.29
As I said, educate yourself. What person A considers emo isn't going to be the same as person B, but most people would classify nearly all of the new wave punk crap on the alternative radio these days as EMO. And they would also classify the misfits as emo, but emo from the 90's as opposed to the 2000's
Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless
Please educate yourselves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.
Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.
/thread
Originally posted by: Thraxen
I'm sick of of the term 'emo'. It's applied so broadly now that it has lost all meaning.
Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless
Please educate yourselves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.
Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.
/thread
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Although I agree, the term emo was originally coined because of the new wave punk scene, to describe (depending on who you talk to) the people who listen to it and dress the same way or to describe the music itself. It grew from that to encompass goth, and all other forms of emo type music and the majority of people who not only listen to it - but turn it into their lifestyle.
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless
Please educate yourselves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.
Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.
/thread
You can take the term "EMO" back to the early days of DC hardcore even. Teen idols, Fugazi etc.. .that is "emo" and certainly "punk"
While I normally agree with Wiki, that definition is pretty lacking.
yes I know what I'm talking about too... I'm and old punk kid that grew up with "Emo" and "punk" and still listens to it religiously. The terms are VERY broad and widely encompassing of MANY different styles of music. The OP, much like every other poster on this forum or the internet in general commenting on Emo or Punk don't know WTF they are talking about.
Originally posted by: AMDZen
You guys are so clueless
Please educate yourselves
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29
There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene, and has connections to indie rock and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes, and with various prints, often images from the 1980s. Bags and backpacks often have pins and patches of various bands.
Have any of you guys ever been to an All-American douche bag concert? Or any concert of any of the new wave punk rock craptastic music? Please STFU, PUNK IS EMO.
/thread
Did you even read the link, or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%
There is a lot to read there. The scene has changed, it encompasses many genres and sub-genres of both music and fashion. And as I said in my first post, it can be applied as a term to a fashion style as well as various musical genres
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Although I agree, the term emo was originally coined because of the new wave punk scene, to describe (depending on who you talk to) the people who listen to it and dress the same way or to describe the music itself. It grew from that to encompass goth, and all other forms of emo type music and the majority of people who not only listen to it - but turn it into their lifestyle.
Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...
Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Did you even read the link, or this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%
There is a lot to read there. The scene has changed, it encompasses many genres and sub-genres of both music and fashion. And as I said in my first post, it can be applied as a term to a fashion style as well as various musical genres
Umm I was agreeing with you.
Emo and Punk are broad sweeping in their definitions... besides generally labeling music to a SPECIFIC genre is A) stupid B) nearly imossible C) stupid.
Hehehe, I'm kind of at fault for not reading all of your post. Sorry about that
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Wrong. The genre of emocore arose of the DC hardcore scene way back in the mid-80s. It had the same sound (and many of the same players) but lyrics were about loss, vulnerability, emotional pain, etc. Hence the term emocore. Around the late 80s many traditionally hardcore bands matured a bit and the sound mellowed out and gave rise to post-hardcore. Lyrics were still similar to those by hardcore bands, but there was more emphasis on the complexity of the music. Eventually, the first emo bands were formed out the combination of these two genres. Lyrics from emocore and music from post. Having lost the hardcore sound, the "core" was just dropped and emo it was. I experienced these transitions firsthand, but i have no idea what "emo" is anymore. Well, actually its a marketing ploy, but the music bears no resemblance and few ties to emo. I along with the haters would like to see it drop off the mainstream map, although for different reasons im sure...
BINGO on the origination of the term... spot on!
(and yeah I lived it too...)
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Look...
you have POP music (popular) and within that you have "Rock" music... what exactly is "Rock"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?
then you have PUNK music (anti-popular) and within that you have "Emo" music what exactly is "Emo"? There are ALOT of styles and types bands that would fill that description right?