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SpatiallyAware said:
I disagree. She is a public employee working on our tax dollars. She needs to tend to her extramarital affairs on her own time.
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Ideally yes and if it affected her work to a noticeable degree then they would have every right to question the amount of time spent on personal business but the personal business itself would not be their concern. The issue here is not what she was doing but that she was doing it using school resources in violation of policies that she as the superintendent above all should not be violating.
 
They can be.
Set up your own server.
Also your own internet, with your own satellites.
Other than that, no. You are using billions of dollars of others peoples hardware. You arent entitled to anything.
 
MotionMan said:
Pretty much.

I wonder if it would play out differently if she was using her personal device (laptop or smartphone) and her personal e-mail account, but the school wifi.

MotionMan
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How it would play out is the reporter would have requested email records from the school district, and her email account would have been full of minutiae, boring shit, and no sexy email.

This is why our emails auto-delete after 90 days. :thumbsup:
 
Linflas said:
Ideally yes and if it affected her work to a noticeable degree then they would have every right to question the amount of time spent on personal business but the personal business itself would not be their concern. The issue here is not what she was doing but that she was doing it using school resources in violation of policies that she as the superintendent above all should not be violating.
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Affect her work or not, it is completely inexcusable being that she is paid with tax dollars. There are all sorts of ways to twist behaviour into 'not affecting her work' but the bottom line is she's paid with tax money.

It would be different, still bad but not as bad, if she was a private employee. If your private employer is ok with your spreading work around, or paid to "get a job done" and then your extra time is "yours" then that's one thing...

But if you are paid with tax dollars then GTF to work.
 
Linflas said:
Most WIFI connections like that are still behind the proxies and content filtering and make you click on an Accept of the AUP to connect to them.
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Ours doesn't. But then again, it's WPA-password protected. The "public" network for the plebians makes you click an agreement, but... well... yeah. Nobody reads those.

I did have to sign an acceptable use policy when I started working here.
 
Started reading some of the emails. Ass licking was mentioned. This is getting to be a good read.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Affect her work or not, it is completely inexcusable being that she is paid with tax dollars. There are all sorts of ways to twist behaviour into 'not affecting her work' but the bottom line is she's paid with tax money.

It would be different, still bad but not as bad, if she was a private employee. If your private employer is ok with your spreading work around, or paid to "get a job done" and then your extra time is "yours" then that's one thing...

But if you are paid with tax dollars then GTF to work.
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30 minute lunch break, in the office, in front of the computer. 😛
 
Linflas said:
No. I would bet that her school district's AUP includes something along the lines of it being prohibited to connect any device to the network without prior authorization and any such connection is subject to all provisions of the AUP.
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Absolutely, and that is why I said "on your own network" such as a 3G/4G. I also said you can't expect privacy if using a work network the "if/and" was implying if you are even able to put personal devices on a work network at all. Gets into a grey area when you are on "company time" using your own device/network. Each company will have it's own policy and could include confiscating your phone and going through emails to make sure you are not transmitting trade secrets or info of that nature.

Not sure how you read any different but I agree totally with everything you posted after the word no.
 
Maybe it's because I entered the workplace at a time where email was the norm, but I would absolutely never do this. Anything I email I assume might be read in front of a jury someday.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Affect her work or not, it is completely inexcusable being that she is paid with tax dollars. There are all sorts of ways to twist behaviour into 'not affecting her work' but the bottom line is she's paid with tax money.

It would be different, still bad but not as bad, if she was a private employee. If your private employer is ok with your spreading work around, or paid to "get a job done" and then your extra time is "yours" then that's one thing...

But if you are paid with tax dollars then GTF to work.
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But reality is you would have no idea if or when she was doing it through her private email using her Smartphone and a 3G/4G connection not involving the school network. What she got in trouble for was violating the AUP she not only agreed to as part of using school IT resources but is responsible for overseeing and enforcing on all school system employees in her position as Superintendent.
 
Captain Howdy said:
Absolutely, and that is why I said "on your own network" such as a 3G/4G. I also said you can't expect privacy if using a work network the "if/and" was implying if you are even able to put personal devices on a work network at all. Gets into a grey area when you are on "company time" using your own device/network. Each company will have it's own policy and could include confiscating your phone and going through emails to make sure you are not transmitting trade secrets or info of that nature.

Not sure how you read any different but I agree totally with everything you posted after the word no.
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😳 Sorry I misread part of your post.
 
Linflas said:
No. I would bet that her school district's AUP includes something along the lines of it being prohibited to connect any device to the network without prior authorization and any such connection is subject to all provisions of the AUP.
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?? why would she need to tether her smart phone to the schools wifi?
 
slsmnaz said:
get a personal smart phone and use it however you want. Is there really an expectation of privacy when using work email?
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there is at my workplace, I work in the IT department and we never go anywhere near other people's inboxes unless there is an issue that require us to do so, and even then we don't read anything. it's the same with company equipment, what someone keeps on their company phone/iPad/laptop is none of my business and the day they return it I wipe it clean.
 
OMG, she was having SEX!!!!! :0

This country is fucking pathetic, a bunch of nosey fucking losers that can't just mind their own business. And don't give me the garbage about "school resources" either. If she was using her connetion to plan a barbeque or buy tickets to a baseball game, it would not be an issue. How many in this thread comdemning her are posting from work using their companies' network?
 
Blackjack200 said:
OMG, she was having SEX!!!!! :0

This country is fucking pathetic, a bunch of nosey fucking losers that can't just mind their own business. And don't give me the garbage about "school resources" either. If she was using her connetion to plan a barbeque or buy tickets to a baseball game, it would not be an issue. How many in this thread comdemning her are posting from work using their companies' network?
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It's a matter of decorum. It's one thing to check sports scores or argue politics on the internet. It's some thing that most employers won't say anything about if you discussed it with another employee at the water cooler.

It's another thing entirely to have conversations like that on company time/materials. Have that conversation with another employer and if the wrong person heard you talk about it and you be looking at a fast track to HR/unemployment.
 
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