Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

[Kaido]

That still does make all the workers at Tesla Nazis as Kaido is trying to correlate. You can choose not to buy tesla because the ceo is nazi without believes the 100 thousand workers there are nazis.

Rotate that 180, as I think I wasn't clear & that is exactly the point I was trying to make.

 

[MrSquished]

I mean, do you personally view Elon Musk as a Nazi? Because that makes a huge difference in perspective if you think he's just a troll instead.

We just lost 100,000 Federal workers; should we consider all Tesla vehicles 100% tied to Elon Musk & disregard the 125,000 Tesla workers? If you consider Musk a Nazi, are those 125k workers supporting a Nazi?

The ONLY thing being disregarded here is what Musk is actually doing - how many people his actions are literally hurting, in terrible ways.

You wave it off as 'trolling', which is fucking disgusting. You pretend to care about Tesla workers while handwaving away the actual evil that Musk is actually responsible for, which includes being a big reason Trump won, not to mention the hundreds of thousands to easily millions that he has affected negatively already.

It's obscene. But your posts are a good lesson in how people that were ok with horrific movements in the past, whether they were Nazis or something else, rationalize it in their heads that it's not so bad.

Imagine calling Elon Musk just a troll.

You have major psychological issues.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Rotate that 180, as I think I wasn't clear & that is exactly the point I was trying to make.

Oh, ok. I will never purchase a Tesla and consider Musk a Nazi but would never correlate all the workers into the Nazi category unless Tesla came out and stated that ideology is a core company value from top to bottom that workers must perform the salute everyday to Musk. Then, I would look at the workers who stayed askance.

 

[MrSquished]

All the people drastically affected by the cuts Musk is making - from the federal workers to the literal sick and starving people some of those cut programs helped - and his amplification of literal nazis and total misinformation which results in direct results by folks in those movements , it's all just trolling lol

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No, I'm asking for the definition. There are all kinds of crazy groups out there now.

I think he would actually authorize the deaths of people he deemed to be undesirable, does that count?

 

[nakedfrog]

It might be a more compelling argument that he's just a misunderstood good boi in need of better management if he hadn't given Germany's AfD party $5 million, spoken at the aforementioned gathering, and repeatedly signal-boosted them to his followers. I don't know if he's "a legitimate Nazi" to Kaido's standards (which he refuses to enumerate or take a stance on), but he sure seems to favor neo-Nazis and I believe he knew what he was doing with the salute--both trolling and signalling to "legitimate Nazis/neo-Nazis".

 

[Pens1566]

Oh, ok. I will never purchase a Tesla and consider Musk a Nazi but would never correlate all the workers into the Nazi category unless Tesla came out and stated that ideology is a core company value from top to bottom that workers must perform the salute everyday to Musk. Then, I would look at the workers who stayed askance.

Interesting exercise ... how would you classify twitter employees then?

 

[IronWing]

Interesting exercise ... how would you classify twitter employees then?

That’s different, those folks are helping Elon lose money.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Interesting exercise ... how would you classify twitter employees then?

At a certain point, a willingness to participate in a system makes you complicit in it. It can be hard to define but the public sentiment can make that decision, as seen with other popular figures (Werner von Braun says hello).

 

[Pens1566]

At a certain point, a willingness to participate in a system makes you complicit in it. It can be hard to define but the public sentiment can make that decision, as seen with other popular figures (Werner von Braun says hello).

That's where I'm at and kind of why I asked the question. And while Tesla doesn't have the negative impact or control on the current environment we're in (like twitter does), I'm willing to start putting them in the same category the longer this shitlord is around.

 

[repoman0]

Aren’t the only people left at Twitter basically H1B visa slaves at this point?

 

[MrSquished]

With employees it's not a one size fits all category. You can't expect everyone who is not onboard with Elon to quit their job without having something else decent lined up that will keep them housed and fed. The job market isn't amazing. People can work at a company they don't support and not be mentally supportive of the leadership or mission. We don't want people living on the streets to prove a point. But yes, if you support Musk AND work at one of his companies, you are a piece of shit helping evil happen purposefully.

What's amazing is Kaido really really wants to pretend to care about 100K Tesla employees, but fuck the hundreds and hundreds of thousands, if not millions and millions, who are suffering due to Elon's white nationalist far right extremist Nazi adjacent involvement - involvement that is directly causing lots of suffering.

Reading these mental gymnastics he is doing should be a grim reminder of how people can justify the worst of things in their minds - humans fucking suck folks. Pick up a history book. There are tens and tens of millions of Kaido's out there.

 

[ivwshane]

I mean trolling vs. a legitimate, full-on Nazi.

If you think he's a actual Nazi, then your correlation would be that anyone buying a new Tesla is supporting a Nazi, right?

If someone of his stature and influence is trolling, does it matter if he’s a “real” nazi or a “fake” nazi? Because I’m not seeing a distinction between the two.

 

[pmv]

If someone of his stature and influence is trolling, does it matter if he’s a “real” nazi or a “fake” nazi? Because I’m not seeing a distinction between the two.

This sort of thing always makes me think of this James Thurber story

His Wife Was Greatly Distressed

 

[Kaido]

If someone of his stature and influence is trolling, does it matter if he’s a “real” nazi or a “fake” nazi? Because I’m not seeing a distinction between the two.

I would think that the impact is going to be similar: wealth & influence hold a tremendous amount of power in our society. It also gives emboldens people who are just waiting to hear that kind of stuff.

 

[Kaido]

At a certain point, a willingness to participate in a system makes you complicit in it. It can be hard to define but the public sentiment can make that decision, as seen with other popular figures (Werner von Braun says hello).

There seems to be levels as well. Generally, people to seem to be okay with regular Tesla cars (iirc as of December, they've sold over 6 million EV's globally), but the Cybertruck has become a cultural representation of Musk & is a rolling vandalism target at this point.

 

[feralkid]

I’m not seeing

No, you're not; but Elmo sure is.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Not sure if fraudsters should be pointing fingers about “ponzi schemes”

Elon Musk Calls Social Security 'The Biggest Ponzi Scheme Of All Time'

The tech billionaire argued Friday on "The Joe Rogan Experience" podcast that one of America's most enduring social safety nets is an insidious ploy.

ca.finance.yahoo.com

I’d be willing to bet the average person doesn’t know how SS works. I can think of a number of people, including my Trump loving mother and stepfather, who would not be able to tell you the basic outline of it. I would guess the type of people who don’t understand how SS works are the type of people who are convinced that Musk will scrap SS and replace it with something which costs nothing and gives even more benefits. When they eventually lose SS and end up with no benefits at all, they’ll blame the Biden somehow. The fact that low to middle income Trump voters in LCOL areas thought they’d see any benefit from “No Taxes on Social Security” goes to show that they don’t fully understand how it works.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Will someone. ANYONE tell this idiot there’s a reason there aren’t any 60-year-old ATCs?

 

[nakedfrog]

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Will someone. ANYONE tell this idiot there’s a reason there aren’t any 60-year-old ATCs?

You, uh, think he listens to other people?

 

[Kaido]

Not sure if fraudsters should be pointing fingers about “ponzi schemes”

Didn't the whole DOGE thing start out as a Bitcoin knockoff awhile back?

 

[APU_Fusion]

Interesting exercise ... how would you classify twitter employees then?

I look at them more askance than I do Tesla as the whole business model at X is catering to right-wing and conspiracies at this point. Not the same use case as Tesla employees. They are what, 3k X employees versus 121k Tesla employees. X seems to be a company jolt around a cult of personality wherein Tesla seems to have a shitty leader.

 

[Paratus]

https://imgur.com/ERaPQWR

Somebody had a wheely good time. In Texas no less!

 

[IronWing]

Where we're going, we don't need roads.

 

[IronWing]

I guess Teslas have custom tires so this may not be politically motivated theft, just plain old greed motivated.