Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

[mikeymikec]

swim or sink (@swimcoach1976) on Threads

It is very clear here that he is wearing a girdle. It is so tight he can barely breathe.

www.threads.net

The man is definitely normal.

I'm trying to figure out how one is supposed to see the image that the discussion is about through the website...

 

[Kaido]

He can be both a troll and also legitimately have far-right white supremacist nationalist beliefs, you know.

Do you consider Musk an actual Nazi?

 

[MrSquished]

Do you consider Musk an actual Nazi?

He is a far far right wing white nationalist and racist fascist, and an oligarch, and simply evil - we just use the word Nazi because the movement he is a part of does echo the rise of other far right wing white nationalist movements in the past, and so do their policies and desires. Modern American Nazi aka Nazi is just an easy way to sum it all up.

Now go buy a Swasticar

 

[Kaido]

He is a far far right wing white nationalist and racist fascist, and an oligarch, and simply evil - we just use the word Nazi because the movement he is a part of does echo the rise of other far right wing white nationalist movements in the past, and so do their policies and desires. Modern American Nazi aka Nazi is just an easy way to sum it all up.

Is that considered a Neo Nazi?

 

[Indus]

He is a far far right wing white nationalist and racist fascist, and an oligarch, and simply evil - we just use the word Nazi because the movement he is a part of does echo the rise of other far right wing white nationalist movements in the past, and so do their policies and desires. Modern American Nazi aka Nazi is just an easy way to sum it all up.

Now go buy a Swasticar

Even when they're out doing Nazi salutes.. some people make excuses that they're not doing nazi salutes..

That's the pre-requisite to being a Nazi.. making excuses that we didn't see what we saw, we didn't hear what we heard, we're just imaging things just because we have TDS..

 

[brycejones]

Do you consider Musk an actual Nazi?

From the standpoint of him being clearly a white nationalist fascist, yes I do.

 

[brycejones]

Is that considered a Neo Nazi?

Debating what kind of nazi makes him still a nazi.

 

[Kaido]

Debating what kind of nazi makes him still a nazi.

No, I'm asking for the definition. There are all kinds of crazy groups out there now.

 

[nakedfrog]

Do you consider Musk an actual Nazi?

Well, what do you mean by "an actual Nazi?" Are we going to get into a pedantic dissection here? I do think he believes in the supremacy of the white race, he comports himself in an anti-democratic fashion, he's transphobic, he's amplified anti-semitic beliefs and statements, and platforms actual Nazis. Is that close enough for you?

 

[Kaido]

Well, what do you mean by "an actual Nazi?" Are we going to get into a pedantic dissection here? I do think he believes in the supremacy of the white race, he comports himself in an anti-democratic fashion, he's transphobic, he's amplified anti-semitic beliefs and statements, and platforms actual Nazis. Is that close enough for you?

I mean trolling vs. a legitimate, full-on Nazi.

If you think he's a actual Nazi, then your correlation would be that anyone buying a new Tesla is supporting a Nazi, right?

 

[nakedfrog]

I mean trolling vs. a legitimate, full-on Nazi.

If you think he's a actual Nazi, then your correlation would be that anyone buying a new Tesla is supporting a Nazi, right?

What do you mean by "a legitimate, full-on Nazi"? You did not answer the question What do YOU think?

Regardless of whether or not he fulfills your requirements, anyone buying a new Tesla is clearly supporting a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

 

[hal2kilo]

What do you mean by "a legitimate, full-on Nazi"? You did not answer the question What do YOU think?

Regardless of whether or not he fulfills your requirements, anyone buying a new Tesla is clearly supporting a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

Not a Sears Roebucks Nazi?

 

[Kaido]

What do you mean by "a legitimate, full-on Nazi"? You did not answer the question What do YOU think?

Regardless of whether or not he fulfills your requirements, anyone buying a new Tesla is clearly supporting a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

I mean, do you personally view Elon Musk as a Nazi? Because that makes a huge difference in perspective if you think he's just a troll instead.

We just lost 100,000 Federal workers; should we consider all Tesla vehicles 100% tied to Elon Musk & disregard the 125,000 Tesla workers? If you consider Musk a Nazi, are those 125k workers supporting a Nazi?

 

[Brainonska511]

I mean trolling vs. a legitimate, full-on Nazi.

If you think he's a actual Nazi, then your correlation would be that anyone buying a new Tesla is supporting a Nazi, right?

Why are you so hung up on the Nazi label?

Musk promotes extreme, far-right ideologies, and it doesn't matter if he's trolling or serious - the results are the same.

And he's going to have a lot of dead bodies directly on his hands with his illegal cuts to USAID that will ultimately lead to thousands to millions dying from or being infected by preventable things (HIV, tuberculosis, famine, ebola/Marburg, malaria, etc...).

 

[nakedfrog]

I mean, do you personally view Elon Musk as a Nazi? Because that makes a huge difference in perspective if you think he's just a troll instead.

We just lost 100,000 Federal workers; should we consider all Tesla vehicles 100% tied to Elon Musk & disregard the 125,000 Tesla workers? If you consider Musk a Nazi, are those 125k workers supporting a Nazi?

What do you mean by "a legitimate, full-on Nazi"? You did not answer the question What do YOU think?
I think I shan't be answering any more of your questions until you clarify your stance.

 

[APU_Fusion]

I mean, do you personally view Elon Musk as a Nazi? Because that makes a huge difference in perspective if you think he's just a troll instead.

We just lost 100,000 Federal workers; should we consider all Tesla vehicles 100% tied to Elon Musk & disregard the 125,000 Tesla workers? If you consider Musk a Nazi, are those 125k workers supporting a Nazi?

What a weird argument. Why would we disregard or think all people working at Tesla are nazis because Misk is one? That makes no sense. You think every German working for companies with nazi leadership we’re all Nazis by association? How simplistic.

Should all those workers with bills and families quit at the risk of becoming homeless because the ceo is a nazi? Really?

Define nazi. Define legitimate and illegitimate nazi. Elon Musk, in his interview with Joe Rogan, said "the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.” That sounds like a prime example of legit nazi to me. Also pretty rich coming from South African ketamine addicted clown who took billions in government grants.

You do know that correlation is not causation right?

 

[Kaido]

Why are you so hung up on the Nazi label?

Musk promotes extreme, far-right ideologies, and it doesn't matter if he's trolling or serious - the results are the same.

And he's going to have a lot of dead bodies directly on his hands with his illegal cuts to USAID that will ultimately lead to thousands to millions dying from or being infected by preventable things (HIV, tuberculosis, famine, ebola/Marburg, malaria, etc...).

From a public persona perspective, I have to question if there's any functional difference between trolling vs. actually being a Nazi, because he' putting one or the other out to the public, and both are awful.

 

[Kaido]

What a weird argument. Why would we disregard or think all people working at Tesla are nazis because Misk is one? That makes no sense. You think every German working for companies with nazi leadership we’re all Naxos by association? How simplistic.

Should all those workers with bills and families quite at the risk of becoming homeless because the ceo a nazi? Really?

The discussion is from earlier: a few people in this thread have said that their belief is that if you buy a Tesla, then you're supporting a Nazi/facism/etc..

I view Tesla is bigger than just Musk & view a Tesla purchase as supporting American families.

 

[APU_Fusion]

The discussion is from earlier: a few people in this thread have said that their belief is that if you buy a Tesla, then you're supporting a Nazi/facism/etc..

I view Tesla is bigger than just Musk & view a Tesla purchase as supporting American families.

And? That is their right. What does that have to do with the workers at Tesla?

Define legitimate nazi and illegitimate nazi. What a weird argumemt

 

[Brainonska511]

From a public persona perspective, I have to question if there's any functional difference between trolling vs. actually being a Nazi, because he' putting one or the other out to the public, and both are awful.

There is no functional difference between pretending to be a Nazi and being one if he's ultimately pushing the same policies. And quibbling about the label is kind of pointless.

 

[Kaido]

And? That is their right. What does that have to do with the workers at Tesla?

Define legitimate nazi and illegitimate nazi. What a weird argumemt

That was my point exactly.

 

[Brainonska511]

The discussion is from earlier: a few people in this thread have said that their belief is that if you buy a Tesla, then you're supporting a Nazi/facism/etc..

I view Tesla is bigger than just Musk & view a Tesla purchase as supporting American families.

Musk is one of Tesla's largest shareholders and directly benefits from the company doing well. He's also their company face.

Sure, I might feel bad for some of the people at Tesla that were just trying to make a living, but you and I in good conscience should not be buying anything from a Musk-owned company, no matter how cool it might seem to be, because it ultimately helps Musk.

I don't care how many American jobs it creates or how cool it is, I'm not buying a Model 1488 from Tesla.

 

[APU_Fusion]

That was my point exactly.

No, it isn’t. You are trying to correlate someone thinking if they buy a Tesla they support nazis with them believing all the workers who built them as being nazis when only the ceo has expressed that.

CEO nazi does not equal purchase of Tesla meaning all the workers are nazis.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Musk is one of Tesla's largest shareholders and directly benefits from the company doing well. He's also their company face.

Sure, I might feel bad for some of the people at Tesla that were just trying to make a living, but you and I in good conscience should not be buying anything from a Musk-owned company, no matter how cool it might seem to be, because it ultimately helps Musk.

I don't care how many American jobs it creates or how cool it is, I'm not buying a Model 1488 from Tesla.

That still does make all the workers at Tesla Nazis as Kaido is trying to correlate. You can choose not to buy tesla because the ceo is nazi without believes the 100 thousand workers there are nazis.

 

[Kaido]

No, it isn’t. You are trying to correlate someone thinking if they buy a Tesla they support nazis with them believing all the workers who built them as being nazis when only the ceo has expressed that.

CEO nazi does not equal purchase of Tesla meaning all the workers are nazis.

No, to clarify, that's what I'm saying, and I don't think I was clear: it's a car made by a lot of people working to support their families. I don't view the purchase of a Tesla or the workers at Tesla as support the CEO's beliefs.