Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Here me out Bros,

Maybe the whole twitter plan is to appeal to Deplorable’s so that he may sell them solar panels, power walls and get them the fuck out of their coal rolling trucks and into electric cars to save the environment.
Just imagine all the guys who said fuck no to electric anything now buying all electric stuff to “own the libs”.
Whadda ya think?
I gotta say, this thought has entered my brain. And the only way to truly appeal to the deplorable fucks is to 'own the libs'. So he'd have to go hard in that maga mindset.
 

manly

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I know this is going to be unpopular but IMO it was inappropriate to call out ponyo in this thread.
First, because there used to be a rule here that it wasn't allowed to call out/at-mention posters who had not already posted in a particular thread. Not sure what happened with that.
Second, because while I'm not interested in defending ponyo, I do recall posts from him months ago acknowledging that he thought he got lucky with TSLA but did not consider it a long hold.
And finally, because I personally go to great lengths to avoid personal financial discussions on anonymous internet forums and encourage others to do the same. And that's because such discussions are pointless. Little different than an e-peen contest. Nothing can actually be proven, and as such no reasonable person should accept any claims as credible.
If you read ponyo’s final message on Thursday, he’s more acerbic and derogatory than ever. Other members’ reactions to him are not at all unjustified. Maybe I shouldn’t get “personal” but clearly he has an Elon Musk streak running through him.
 
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Paratus

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If you guys need someone new to dunk on, I'm still holding some TSLA. Not so much that I'm depressed, but enough that I'm annoyed I didn't sell earlier.

In my case at least it's because I legit believe that the tech they've got is worth the higher market cap. Just wish musk would shut his dumbass up.
Teslas get dinged for overstating their range but their cars generally top the charts for efficiency. I know my Model 3 LR gets almost 4miles (3.97) /kWh real world.

They get nailed for the dangers of beta FSD but they ace all the NHTSA and European equivalents for crash safety. ( I didn’t pay the $12K for the FSD features)

Their charging network just works. I’ve been seeing a lot of issues reported with Electrify Americas network having connectivity issues with various new EVs or just being down. The most recent issue was every one of their new chargers an EV YouTuber checked in Colorado failed to charge during this cold snap. Not an issue for the Suoercharger network.

Their fit and finish could be better. It’s probably on the level with Chevy. Mine has some creaks I need them to deal with under warranty.

The biggest detractor for Tesla isn’t their tech it’s Musk.
 
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Oh wow, wonder who contacted the clown that got him to return to announce he was leaving? Unless he was really so vain that he's got some notification setup for being @Ed, which wouldn't surprise me.

Seriously? This isn't an airport. You don't have to announce your departure.

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Yeah, he's full of shit and he'll be posting the second Tesla stock goes back up.

I never got the impression he was a troll. I enjoyed talking to him about food and travel.

Not sure how him posting legit about some topics means he wasn't a troll. He definitely was a troll and tried to troll people repeatedly based on his Tesla investments alone. Hell one argument he tried to make was echoing Musk calling the diver a pedophile (because he's apparently too goddamn stupid to realize the reason him doing it doesn't matter is because he's a fucking nobody that know one knows or cares what they actually think, hence his claim carried no actual weight, let alone him doing it on a dying message board).
 
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If you read ponyo’s final message on Thursday, he’s more acerbic and derogatory than ever. Other members’ reactions to him are not at all unjustified. Maybe I shouldn’t get “personal” but clearly he has an Elon Musk streak running through him.

I think its telling that the overriding aspect that Vic is defending is Ponyo's "financial advice" which I don't believe anyone took him bragging about Tesla and crytpo was actual investment advice so I have no clue whyTF Vic was posting that.

The reason people are basking in the schadenfreude of Ponyo is because he went out of his way to constantly be an asshole to other people specifically on that point, which Vic clearly knows and even says he understands...before some reason trying to defend Ponyo repeatedly. It reeks of the Neil de Grasse Tyson defense of Elon Musk, "sure he's an asshole, but like you don't have to be mean to him about it!" Its literally the same "bothsides!" bullshit that Ajay and Jackasslass have been pulling, where they didn't give a flying fuck about the originating asshole behavior, but people calling it out, well now its a cause for concern. Further, its not just them being assholes. They're actively working to make the world a worse place with their behaviors, and then gloating about it. Including the stuff people like Vic do actually call out and take issue with, but its like they don't see the direct correlation between the two. Hell, Vic, I hope you can see how you look like Tucker Carlson criticizing the business owners that told right wing politicians to go somewhere else after they did horrible shit. Oh no, think of the poor guys bragging about being rich and powerful, they're the real victims! If we keep criticizing them then that's how we get Nazis! Not because the people criticizing them are Nazis (Vic is at least able to see that), but because criticizing these pathetic crybaby bitches causes them to turn into Nazis. Sorry, Vic, too late. They're already there.

Well, I wouldn't say that about Ponyo, he just seems to be a guy that at his midlife, after making reasonably smart financial decisions (although much of that I'm guessing is actually due to having a family that already was well off financially, such that he didn't need to sacrifice his own financial situation to help out others; or maybe they did and he's just such an asshole he told them to fuck off), is reaping the benefits of it, but thinks that makes him a genius and has thus given a ridiculously average dude, a big ego. And he sees that behavior from right wing assholes and so is pantomiming them so he doesn't come off too much like "new money" like this is the Titanic or some shit.

I do find it amusing how the pretty minor call out in this thread (why do I feel like he actually regularly searches for him being mentioned on here?) got him back here in a huff to declare how he is done here while making all the usual modern right winger whining. "You guys are just jelly haters!!! I'm rich bitch! Fuck you, whaaaaaaaaaaa!" We all know you'll be full of shit anyways and back trying to gloat the second you can. Then you'll run off like the little bitch you are the second you actually have to take a shred of the bullshit you tried doling out, because you're a pathetic human being.

We've seen this same song and dance multiple times. Its sad how formulaic these clowns are.
 

Zorba

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Teslas get dinged for overstating their range but their cars generally top the charts for efficiency. I know my Model 3 LR gets almost 4miles (3.97) /kWh real world.

They get nailed for the dangers of beta FSD but they ace all the NHTSA and European equivalents for crash safety. ( I didn’t pay the $12K for the FSD features)

Their charging network just works. I’ve been seeing a lot of issues reported with Electrify Americas network having connectivity issues with various new EVs or just being down. The most recent issue was every one of their new chargers an EV YouTuber checked in Colorado failed to charge during this cold snap. Not an issue for the Suoercharger network.

Their fit and finish could be better. It’s probably on the level with Chevy. Mine has some creaks I need them to deal with under warranty.

The biggest detractor for Tesla isn’t their tech it’s Musk.
My only issue with Tesla as a company is their beta testing FSD on the public and their caviler attitude about it. Plus their obvious overplaying it's actual capabilities. And of course the fan boys are annoying.

That doesn't mean I think they should be the most valuable car company on the planet either. I hope they make it long term, and I'm sure they will, more competition is always good. I also wish everyone would copy their sales method, dealerships suck so bad.
 
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There is an awful lot of projection in that post. @ponyo no one gives a fuck how much money you have, the only reason you were called out is because you were such an arrogant asshole. This is a perfect example of money not buying happiness, this dude was miserable when he was working and is still miserable.

I mean, I like ponyo and his money-fueled madness. He's not Madoka levels of unrestrained insanity, but pretty close.

@ponyo, I think all would have been fine if you weren't such a judgmental bastard most of the time--you seem to suffer from the common disease of confusing pure dumb luck (investing) with being smart; and unrestrained accumulation of paper and metal as some sort of validation of human existence. It's a real problem that effects many, and I hope it doesn't define you for the rest of your life.

Otherwise, you seem alright and I'll miss your food porn.

FWIW, I never thought it was TSLA that did you in, but that strange all-in move with Peloton that never made any kind of sense. :D (when Peloton shit the bed, that's when I first noticed you stopped posting).

Also, hope you managed to protect your mom and the rest of your family from moving all of their money into the hands of Elon.
 

zinfamous

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My only issue with Tesla as a company is their beta testing FSD on the public and their caviler attitude about it. Plus their obvious overplaying it's actual capabilities. And of course the fan boys are annoying.

That doesn't mean I think they should be the most valuable car company on the planet either. I hope they make it long term, and I'm sure they will, more competition is always good. I also wish everyone would copy their sales method, dealerships suck so bad.

that, and the issue with their build quality isn't that it is on the level of Chevy, but that they charge Mercedes prices for a fucking Chevy.

Oh and it's like sitting in a video game. Fuck that. I want a car. Be a car. Remove all the fucking screens. All of them.
 

Roger Wilco

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He made a number of hilarious decisions, such as buying COIN at IPO lmao.

I like Ponyo. He made me laugh.

Elon, however, I do not like. Watching his net worth get ravaged is awesome Schadenfreude.
 
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WelshBloke

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Not really whining I honestly think this whole thing is entertaining and it's been an interesting ride.
I suppose that the point would be, are you still going to trust the low fact, big on attitude, people that tell you the things that you want to hear over actually looking into what's actually happening?
I'm not trying to pick on you but you very much seem to find an obscure news report on some random Web page then assume that that same issue is happening everywhere. This sounds like an insult but I'm not sure how to phrase it any other way but that you consume news like a really old person that doesn't know how to sort through more than one news source.
 

Zorba

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that, and the issue with their build quality isn't that it is on the level of Chevy, but that they charge Mercedes prices for a fucking Chevy.

Oh and it's like sitting in a video game. Fuck that. I want a car. Be a car. Remove all the fucking screens. All of them.
I agree, not how I'd spend my money, but if other people want to spend that kind of money for a Malibu equivalent whatever. I agree about the screens, screens don't belong in cars.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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that, and the issue with their build quality isn't that it is on the level of Chevy, but that they charge Mercedes prices for a fucking Chevy.

Oh and it's like sitting in a video game. Fuck that. I want a car. Be a car. Remove all the fucking screens. All of them.
Unfortunately at this point even Chevy charges Mercedes prices for Chevies. Have you priced a fucking truck lately? I had someone offer me 17k for an 07 tundra, I bought it for 13k three years ago.
 

Zorba

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Unfortunately at this point even Chevy charges Mercedes prices for Chevies. Have you priced a fucking truck lately? I had someone offer me 17k for an 07 tundra, I bought it for 13k three years ago.
People keep paying it.
 

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Unfortunately at this point even Chevy charges Mercedes prices for Chevies. Have you priced a fucking truck lately? I had someone offer me 17k for an 07 tundra, I bought it for 13k three years ago.

I sold a 01 highlander for $3500 3 years ago. It's probably worth double that now.

Oh well but the fucking thing was a lemon for me. Was just glad to be rid of it.. always in the shop for something!
 
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Unfortunately at this point even Chevy charges Mercedes prices for Chevies. Have you priced a fucking truck lately? I had someone offer me 17k for an 07 tundra, I bought it for 13k three years ago.
"Truck" is the important word here. They are immensely popular with customers in the US, and manufacturers love making them because their profit margins are so much bigger than cars. My brother-in-law bought a GM pickup last year, most expensive vehicle he as ever bought, and he traded in a Jaguar for it.

Back when I was growing up, two sorts of people who drove trucks. The ones who needed them for work and folks who couldn't afford a car. Base model pickups were so cheap. Oh what am I saying, base was the only option when buying a pickup.
 
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"Truck" is the important word here. They are immensely popular with customers in the US, and manufacturers love making them because their profit margins are so much bigger than cars. My brother-in-law bought a GM pickup last year, most expensive vehicle he as ever bought, and he traded in a Jaguar for it.

Back when I was growing up, two sorts of people who drove trucks. The ones who needed them for work and folks who couldn't afford a car. Base model pickups were so cheap. Oh what am I saying, base was the only option when buying a pickup.
Things do change you know...
 

[DHT]Osiris

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"Truck" is the important word here. They are immensely popular with customers in the US, and manufacturers love making them because their profit margins are so much bigger than cars. My brother-in-law bought a GM pickup last year, most expensive vehicle he as ever bought, and he traded in a Jaguar for it.
But you run into no true scottsman fallacies if you keep this up. Yeah trucks are popular, but so are suvs and those weird crossovers. Also sports cars. Also every electric. Also 4wd cars if you're in the north half of the US, so you're left with 2wd econoboxes still priced 'reasonably', which are still in the 15k+ range.
 

KMFJD

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good thread on how he's screwing up advertisement on twitter
 

Zorba

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I know. In rural snowy regions it's kinda needed but all the asshats buying dickmobiles need to fuck off and get a Prius.
You don't need a F-250 King Ranch to drive on snowy dirt roads, though.
I think Musk has it figured out. Finally.

He is gonna compete for the 20 posters on Truth and win the internet that way.


For every shit post he makes, TSLA drops another percentage point. *WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND* for this dipshit?
This is such a stupid meme. I guess customs and border portal doesn't count as spending.