Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

[brycejones]

Well I hope no one pushes you in front of a subway train or beats you in the head with a baseball bat...

Dude why are you so desperate to deflect from the subject of the thread?

 

[pcgeek11]

But I appreciate you validating my statement of a lot of GQP folks in the suburbs and rural areas being ignorant.

No where did I validate your ignorant and biased statement.

 

[MrSquished]

No where did I validate your ignorant and biased statement.

I appreciate you doubling down. Part of the ignorance of right wing hicks is the belief that being in major cities is just about being victims of always prevalent crime.

You're even ignorant about your ignorance. Par for the course for the right wing these days.

 

[pcgeek11]

Dude why are you so desperate to deflect from the subject of the thread?

No desperation here. I'm only responding to others such as yourself.

Don't like it don't read it.

It's called a conversation. It changes and evolves as people interject their ideas and thoughts into it. Sorry you can't follow along.

 

[pcgeek11]

I appreciate you doubling down. Part of the ignorance of right wing hicks is the belief that being in major cities is just about being victims of always prevalent crime.

You're even ignorant about your ignorance. Par for the course for the right wing these days.

I only gave you well wishes on your travels through the city. You can't even accept that without being a horses ass about it.

I didn't say it was prevalent in all areas of the city or that I thought it did. Just like anything else there are good areas and bad areas.

 

[MrSquished]

I only gave you well wishes on your travels through the city. You can't even accept that without being a horses ass about it.

I didn't say it was prevalent in all areas of the city or that I thought it did. Just like anything else there are good areas and bad areas.

Right. What you said implied exactly that. A night out in the city involves avoiding getting pushed on the subway and getting randomly bashed in the head.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding

 

[ch33zw1z]

Right. What you said implied exactly that. A night out in the city involves avoiding getting pushed on the subway and getting randomly bashed in the head.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding

he’s full of shit on a regular basis, pretty sad

 

[brycejones]

No desperation here. I'm only responding to others such as yourself.

Don't like it don't read it.

It's called a conversation. It changes and evolves as people interject their ideas and thoughts into it. Sorry you can't follow along.

You have desperately tried to derail this thread into a discussion about mental illness and homeless for some odd reason.

 

[Paratus]

But it's Okay to live in a cobbled together shelter on the sidewalk in a commercial zone then piss, shit, get high on drugs?

Still insane. The city needs to clean up its own backyard first. But we all know they just want to make Musk miserable.

I couldn't give two shits about Musk or his Twitter Media, but to point fingers at him for a place to sleep for his employees while allowing the slums on the streets is just silly.

So here’s your options for homelessness:

1. Incarcerate them at taxpayer cost
2. Tax payer fun a panel of programs designed to get those off the streets and into regular lives who are capable. For those who are not able mental institutions and shelters
3. Let them die and decrease the surplus population.

So which do you prefer?

 

[ch33zw1z]

What do you propose we do with the homeless? Put them in camps? Help solve the socio economic conditions that definitely drive a significant amount of homelessness?

Umm yea, that’s exactly what he’s advocated for. If they’re homeless, lock em up in mental institutions.

stereotypes are a real timesaver

 

[fskimospy]

So here’s your options for homelessness:

1. Incarcerate them at taxpayer cost
2. Tax payer fun a panel of programs designed to get those off the streets and into regular lives who are capable. For those who are not able mental institutions and shelters
3. Let them die and decrease the surplus population.

So which do you prefer?

4. Build adequate housing.

That is a long term solution though.

 

[MrSquished]

Umm yea, that’s exactly what he’s advocated for. If they’re homeless, lock em up in mental institutions.

stereotypes are a real timesaver

Yep. That's his only solution. Of course there are people with mental illness that need to be in a hospital but that is certainly not the end-all be-all by any means.

With a better social safety net a lot of mental illness is quite treatable. But drugs and therapy are expensive. Also a lot of homeless are due to economic hardships and lack of a support system. And then being homeless can really fuck you up in the head but they have no solutions for the socioeconomic issues that create a homeless problem.

Their only solution is to round them up and put them in psychiatric facility camps.

As I said mental health is part of this and should be addressed but it's certainly not just that by any means or even close

 

[MrSquished]

4. Build adequate housing.

That is a long term solution though.

Yes that is an important component and we both agree that zoning laws in this country are fucked beyond belief. But you also have to create an economic environment where people have living wages based upon the cost of living and some sort of social safety net for medical care and other things such as daycare, mass transit, and many more.

 

[Vic]

Right. What you said implied exactly that. A night out in the city involves avoiding getting pushed on the subway and getting randomly bashed in the head.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding

Nah I'm pretty sure the fox news crowd legitimately believes that the cities are lawless and burning. All part of some Democratic plot to enslave us to socialism, or something like that.

 

[Vic]

4. Build adequate housing.

That is a long term solution though.

Short-term too, as building housing can provide jobs for the able-bodied among the homeless.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yep. That's his only solution. Of course there are people with mental illness that need to be in a hospital but that is certainly not the end-all be-all by any means.

With a better social safety net a lot of mental illness is quite treatable. But drugs and therapy are expensive. Also a lot of homeless are due to economic hardships and lack of a support system. And then being homeless can really fuck you up in the head but they have no solutions for the socioeconomic issues that create a homeless problem.

Their only solution is to round them up and put them in psychiatric facility camps.

As I said mental health is part of this and should be addressed but it's certainly not just that by any means or even close

yea, realistically geek is just a mindless attention whore. He’s been “drugging it up” so long on conservative propaganda that reality doesn’t mean anything. This is what he wants, is discussing his descent into the alt-reality

 

[ch33zw1z]

Musk can provide a place to crash, but to be quite Frank, if you’re at work long enough that you simply can’t make it safely home home, that is a very poor example to be setting. Not something to be lauded. If you’re saying this is better than being homeless, then sure, tons of stuff is better than being homeless. What you’re also saying is that you live-to-work attitude should be applauded and encouraged, which is false

 

[Paratus]

4. Build adequate housing.

That is a long term solution though.

I think that would go as part of 2. Programs to get people off the street who can get off the street. Plentiful affordable housing would go along way for that.

There are still folks who will never mentally be able to take care of themselves without assistance however.

 

[ivwshane]

Musk can provide a place to crash, but to be quite Frank, if you’re at work long enough that you simply can’t make it safely home home, that is a very poor example to be setting. Not something to be lauded. If you’re saying this is better than being homeless, then sure, tons of stuff is better than being homeless. What you’re also saying is that you live-to-work attitude should be applauded and encouraged, which is false

I don’t blame him though. Americans have been brainwashed for decades to work hard and play when you are too old to play. Unless, of course, if you are rich and then it’s expected that you will be playing more. We live vicariously through celebrities and “others” instead of having the work life balance we deserve and living our own lives. It’s not really any surprise that we have a life span that is shrinking while other countries are seeing their increase.

Pcgeek and others are just like most Americans, brainwashed and who put people behind pretty much anything. Profits before people is the American way.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don’t blame him though. Americans have been brainwashed for decades to work hard and play when you are too old to play. Unless, of course, if you are rich and then it’s expected that you will be playing more. We live vicariously through celebrities and “others” instead of having the work life balance we deserve and living our own lives. It’s not really any surprise that we have a life span that is shrinking while other countries are seeing their increase.

Pcgeek and others are just like most Americans, brainwashed and who put people behind pretty much anything. Profits before people is the American way.

pretty accurate IMO. And when a generation wants to discard that, the older generations are gonna lash out.

my gen (born 1980) isn’t so much, a little, but IMXP still very live to work. The young gen is not, and I’m not raising my kids to burn all their younger years busting ass to get nowhere, enjoy life while you can.

and funny enough, the older gen seems like they wanna “burn it down” over it.

good, their spiteful attitude is only going to prove the point and facilitate change. Where that change will land us is the question

 

[fskimospy]

I think that would go as part of 2. Programs to get people off the street who can get off the street. Plentiful affordable housing would go along way for that.

There are still folks who will never mentally be able to take care of themselves without assistance however.

You are totally right.

What people don’t get though is building additional housing attracts new residents and new tax dollars that can be used to build housing for those who will never make it.

It is a purely virtuous cycle. The only people negatively affected are incumbent property owners who are betting on keeping housing scarce to drive up their home values.

 

[Greenman]

If that’s the law the law should be enforced.

What they should do is change the law, not give exemptions to billionaires.

There is a difference between a bedroom and a rest area. A room where an employee can catch a nap is a rest area, and completely legal. It's no different than a break room or a lunch room. How those rooms are furnished isn't under city control. The only agency that would have jurisdiction over furniture would be OSHA.

 

[cytg111]

What do you propose we do with the homeless? Put them in camps? Help solve the socio economic conditions that definitely drive a significant amount of homelessness?

That is one of the impressions that stuck with me -when I visited Miami, massive buildings, banks, telecos etc and right around the corner of the same building, homeless people everywhere... The same building putting bricks to the wealthiest and the poorest at the same time. Something in that equation is broken.

 

[brycejones]

There is a difference between a bedroom and a rest area. A room where an employee can catch a nap is a rest area, and completely legal. It's no different than a break room or a lunch room. How those rooms are furnished isn't under city control. The only agency that would have jurisdiction over furniture would be OSHA.

Did you stay at a holiday inn for that legal degree?

 

[fskimospy]

There is a difference between a bedroom and a rest area. A room where an employee can catch a nap is a rest area, and completely legal. It's no different than a break room or a lunch room. How those rooms are furnished isn't under city control. The only agency that would have jurisdiction over furniture would be OSHA.

The rooms here are designed for employees to sleep in overnight and are in clear violation of zoning ordinances.

I think those ordinances are stupid and should be repealed - you have told me repeatedly they are good.

edit: this is kind of fun though - conservatives are suddenly realizing how dumb zoning is once it’s applied to a billionaire.