Elitism vs. Wanting the Best

[AntiFreze]

When I can afford the best of the best, I will try for that (which sometimes is spending $10 instead of $5). I'll research it, pay more for it, recommend it to other people (if I enjoyed it). It seems like a lot of people on this board will attack you for being an X elitist. This has come up with beef, coffee, and beer for me.

So, in your own opinion, where is the line between being an elitist and just wanting the best?

 

[Beev]

Wanting the best all the time.

Edit: And looking down on people that don't mind not having the best.

 

[vi edit]

You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

 

[ja1484]

The line is when there is practical gain beyond being a label whore.

For example:

Buying a Rolex/Omega/Etc watch because you want the best man-jewelry is fine.

However, buying one of those watches because you want the most accurate time piece is stupidity.


The first is wanting quality, the second is just being a snobby elitist.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: vi edit
You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

That was not the best post.

 

[finite automaton]

Originally posted by: ja1484
The line is when there is practical gain beyond being a label whore.

For example:

Buying a Rolex/Omega/Etc watch because you want the best man-jewelry is fine.

However, buying one of those watches because you want the most accurate time piece is stupidity.


The first is wanting quality, the second is just being a snobby elitist.

Your analogy fails.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
When I can afford the best of the best, I will try for that (which sometimes is spending $10 instead of $5). I'll research it, pay more for it, recommend it to other people (if I enjoyed it). It seems like a lot of people on this board will attack you for being an X elitist. This has come up with beef, coffee, and beer for me.

So, in your own opinion, where is the line between being an elitist and just wanting the best?

the difference is between wanting the top of the line, and wanting the best value for the price, which is usually the top most of the middle.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit
You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

That was not the best post.

que?

 

[Linflas]

Personally I think elitism has little to do with buying things and everything to do with an attitude of entitlement based on superficial things such as the fact that you own expensive things or attended an expensive school.

 

[torpid]

IMO, an elitist is one who judges those who don't have the subjective "best".

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit
You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

That was not the best post.

que?

I want a better one.

Or I'm gonna pout.

 

[spidey07]

Elitism is "knowing" what is best and demands you do what they tell you. It has nothing to do with wanting nice things. It's more the attitude "I know what is best for you and will force you to do it, even if I don't follow it myself." Reference the current administration as a perfect example of elitism.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: torpid
IMO, an elitist is one who judges those who don't have the subjective "best".

Your avatar is so ghetto.

 

[AntiFreze]

Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

No, you're just being a buzzkilling tard.

You're at a party. Drink!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

Snob doesn't mean elitist. You're friends don't know what it means.

If you said "I don't drink that you need to get this" - that would be elitist.

 

[AntiFreze]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

No, you're just being a buzzkilling tard.

You're at a party. Drink!

:laugh:

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Elitism is "knowing" what is best and demands you do what they tell you. It has nothing to do with wanting nice things. It's more the attitude "I know what is best for you and will force you to do it, even if I don't follow it myself." Reference the current administration as a perfect example of elitism.

My reply is better than yours.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

Tell them to do a double blind taste test with you as the subject. If you can easily tell which beers are local microbrew vs us macrobrew and you don't like the macrobrew, then you aren't being an elitist. If you can't tell the difference, then maybe you are. Unless you prefer not to drink macrobrew because of some other issue - e.g. wanting to support local micro-breweries.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit
You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

That was not the best post.

que?

I want a better one.

Or I'm gonna pout.

Your post.
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My head

 

[Gothgar]

I wish there was a better post than this one, with a pole in it

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: spidey07
Elitism is "knowing" what is best and demands you do what they tell you. It has nothing to do with wanting nice things. It's more the attitude "I know what is best for you and will force you to do it, even if I don't follow it myself." Reference the current administration as a perfect example of elitism.

My reply is better than yours.

and mine is better still...

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: vi edit
You become an elitist when you piss and moan when "the best" isn't available and you pout in the corner about it.

That was not the best post.

que?

I want a better one.

Or I'm gonna pout.

Your post.
.
.
.
.
.

My head

That's ok, not everyone can be as awesome as I am.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

Yea. The proper thing to do in that situation would be to bring some of your elite beer to share with everyone else.

I think elitist isn't as much about wanting nice things as it is looking down on others for not having them.

that and sharing is caring.

 

[AntiFreze]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Ok, situational question...

If I'm at a party and they only have US macrobrew beer, I will pass on it. I do not enjoy miller, bud lite, etc. I don't say "I dont drink that crap, you need to get X". I just say no thanks. Now my friends know that I love beer. I drink it, brew it, condition it, age it. They will vocally call me an elitist. Am I being an elitist? Why should I drink something that I don't enjoy.

Tell them to do a double blind taste test with you as the subject. If you can easily tell which beers are local microbrew vs us macrobrew and you don't like the macrobrew, then you aren't being an elitist. If you can't tell the difference, then maybe you are. Unless you prefer not to drink macrobrew because of some other issue - e.g. wanting to support local micro-breweries.

I drink micro > macro for tons of reason (taste, quality, support local, health). And I could easily easily pass a taste test. I think I will do this.