Eliot Spitzer Involved in Ho' Ring?

[nageov3t]

anyone know anything about NY election laws?

how long is this interim governor going to serve and how soon will there be a new election?

wouldn't it be a pisser if Hillary and Rudy ran for NY state governor? :laugh:

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Another "sin" that should be legal, along with soft drugs and euthanasia.


Stupid Flanders!

The fact that he's married with kids and cheated on his wife is more of a put-off than the ho-banging IMHO.

Is that considered cheating? He didn't love the whores. He paid for the sex. Just asking.

Ask the wife.

Well the vows said to love, cherish, and obey. It didn't say he couldn't have sex. This is something I've been thinking about for a long time. So long as he's not giving his heart to another woman, he isn't technically cheating. Besides, women care more about love than sex when it comes to relationships. Men are opposite.

So then what does that part about "forsaking all others" mean? If you don't think this is cheating or against marriage vows you're nuts.

Forsaking all others? Never heard that one before. I guess I should read the manual carefully before buying.

Yes, I think you should. You sound too immature to think about marriage right now. Get the oat sowing out of your system first.

While you can write your own vows if you want... these are traditional vows:

Minister says to the groom: "_____, wilt thou have ____ to be thy wedded wife, to live together after God's ordinance, in the holy estate of matrimony? Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

From here...

It seems as if that "forsaking all others" part is a recurring theme.

Oh puhlease. Spare me the moral beatdown. I'm being honest here and you're calling me immature? It's easy for women to have only one sex partner but very difficult for men. That's why in many culture men have multiple wives. That's why men cheat on their wives. That's why men have porno collections. It has nothing to do with immaturity.

You are a master at rationalization and making excuses for yourself. You should not marry unless you have made it clear to your wife to be she won't be the only one.

Got it. No need to beat me over the head with this moral crusade. The fact is when guys are jerking off to some porno and not telling their wives, that's cheating, if you interpret what those vows mean. Women have men beat in this game of marriage because they can hold out much longer. It's like having a swimming contest against a fish.

Let's make this simple: Would you ask your future wife to read your comments in this thread? What do you think her response would be knowing that you fully intend chase other women?

And FYI, honesty and immaturity are not mutually exclusive. You can be honest AND immature. It's not a moral beatdown. If anything it's sound advice directed to you. Divorces are expensive. Divorces with kids even moreso. (Not to mention the damage to the kids) Being married is not all about you. If you are entering into that kind of relationship with this me me me thinking you need to take a step back. If you want to screw around then do it. But don't do it while married.

 

[Jmman]

I just want to see these "Seven Star" ho's. I've seen 5 star, but never 7 stars. I guess you have to work in government to get 7 stars......😀

 

[winnar111]

Funny how the fact that Spitzer is a Democrat never shows up in the title or opening paragraph. Compare to:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09...washington/02cong.html
Rising Pressure From G.O.P. Led Senator to Quit

WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 ? Within hours of the disclosure of Senator Larry E. Craig?s arrest and conviction after an undercover sex sting, Republican Senate leaders concluded that the exploding political scandal needed a fast resolution, one that necessitated the Idaho Republican?s prompt resignation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/28craig.html
Senator, Arrested at Airport, Pleads Guilty

WASHINGTON, Aug. 27 ? Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican of Idaho, was arrested in June by an undercover police officer in a men?s bathroom at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, and pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in the case three weeks ago.

They couldn't wait to get that R out!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/31boise.html
Tape Shows a Senator Protesting After Arrest
BOISE, Idaho, Aug. 30 ? In the moments after Senator Larry E. Craig was arrested in an airport men?s room, he accused an undercover police sergeant of entrapping him, emphasized that he did not want to go to court or to jail and frequently said, ?I don?t recall,? when asked about his reported sexual advances to the officer.
The tense exchanges between Mr. Craig, Republican of Idaho, and the sergeant were captured on a nine-minute audiotape made public on Thursday under the Minnesota public records law.


FAIR and balanced media? Yep. Then again this is the paper that has endorsed ever Democrat for President since Eisenhower.....



Edit: here are some more

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07...shington/10escort.html
Senator Admits Use of an Escort Service

WASHINGTON, July 9 (AP) ? Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, apologized Monday for ?a very serious sin in my past? after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service that operated here for 13 years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/us/11vitter.html
A Senator?s Moral High Ground Gets a Little Shaky

NEW ORLEANS, July 10 ? From the beginning of his political career 16 years ago, Senator David Vitter has been known for efforts to plant himself on the moral high ground, challenging the ethics of other Louisiana politicians, decrying same-sex marriage and depicting himself as a clean-as-a-whistle champion of family values.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: winnar111
-snip-

Hello winnar111 and welcome to the forums :thumbsup:

Fern

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Funny how the fact that Spitzer is a Democrat never shows up in the title or opening paragraph. Compare to:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09...washington/02cong.html
Rising Pressure From G.O.P. Led Senator to Quit

WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 ? Within hours of the disclosure of Senator Larry E. Craig?s arrest and conviction after an undercover sex sting, Republican Senate leaders concluded that the exploding political scandal needed a fast resolution, one that necessitated the Idaho Republican?s prompt resignation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/28craig.html
Senator, Arrested at Airport, Pleads Guilty

WASHINGTON, Aug. 27 ? Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican of Idaho, was arrested in June by an undercover police officer in a men?s bathroom at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, and pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in the case three weeks ago.

They couldn't wait to get that R out!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/31boise.html
Tape Shows a Senator Protesting After Arrest
BOISE, Idaho, Aug. 30 ? In the moments after Senator Larry E. Craig was arrested in an airport men?s room, he accused an undercover police sergeant of entrapping him, emphasized that he did not want to go to court or to jail and frequently said, ?I don?t recall,? when asked about his reported sexual advances to the officer.
The tense exchanges between Mr. Craig, Republican of Idaho, and the sergeant were captured on a nine-minute audiotape made public on Thursday under the Minnesota public records law.


FAIR and balanced media? Yep. Then again this is the paper that has endorsed ever Democrat for President since Eisenhower.....

when the senate is in a 49:49 split, a senator possibly resigning is more important than a democratic governor possibly getting replaced by... another democratic governor.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Another "sin" that should be legal, along with soft drugs and euthanasia.


Stupid Flanders!

The fact that he's married with kids and cheated on his wife is more of a put-off than the ho-banging IMHO.

Is that considered cheating? He didn't love the whores. He paid for the sex. Just asking.

Ask the wife.

Well the vows said to love, cherish, and obey. It didn't say he couldn't have sex. This is something I've been thinking about for a long time. So long as he's not giving his heart to another woman, he isn't technically cheating. Besides, women care more about love than sex when it comes to relationships. Men are opposite.

So then what does that part about "forsaking all others" mean? If you don't think this is cheating or against marriage vows you're nuts.

Forsaking all others? Never heard that one before. I guess I should read the manual carefully before buying.

Yes, I think you should. You sound too immature to think about marriage right now. Get the oat sowing out of your system first.

While you can write your own vows if you want... these are traditional vows:

Minister says to the groom: "_____, wilt thou have ____ to be thy wedded wife, to live together after God's ordinance, in the holy estate of matrimony? Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

From here...

It seems as if that "forsaking all others" part is a recurring theme.

Oh puhlease. Spare me the moral beatdown. I'm being honest here and you're calling me immature? It's easy for women to have only one sex partner but very difficult for men. That's why in many culture men have multiple wives. That's why men cheat on their wives. That's why men have porno collections. It has nothing to do with immaturity.

You are a master at rationalization and making excuses for yourself. You should not marry unless you have made it clear to your wife to be she won't be the only one.

Got it. No need to beat me over the head with this moral crusade. The fact is when guys are jerking off to some porno and not telling their wives, that's cheating, if you interpret what those vows mean. Women have men beat in this game of marriage because they can hold out much longer. It's like having a swimming contest against a fish.

On the upside, women are far more trusting and less analytical, so the likelihood of you getting caught is pretty low. It's like playing hide and go seek with Helen Keller. :thumbsup:

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
How can a person who prosecutes certain crimes commit the same ones? He has helped break prostitution rings. Surely he saw how the people involved reacted.

I need pics of a 7 star hooker.

Hillary and Chelsea raising money for their campaign?

How the hell are we in a recession when the Democrats can afford this stuff?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: loki8481
anyone know anything about NY election laws?

how long is this interim governor going to serve and how soon will there be a new election?

wouldn't it be a pisser if Hillary and Rudy ran for NY state governor? :laugh:

In most states, Im sure NY is the same, the duty of the Lt Governer is similar to the Vice President. So the Lt. Gov will fill the remainder of the term.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: winnar111

SNIP

Registered today
Black guy avatar
1st post

Why don't you just post under your real login? Or maybe you can't. 😛

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Funny how the fact that Spitzer is a Democrat never shows up in the title or opening paragraph. Compare to:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09...washington/02cong.html
Rising Pressure From G.O.P. Led Senator to Quit

WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 ? Within hours of the disclosure of Senator Larry E. Craig?s arrest and conviction after an undercover sex sting, Republican Senate leaders concluded that the exploding political scandal needed a fast resolution, one that necessitated the Idaho Republican?s prompt resignation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/28craig.html
Senator, Arrested at Airport, Pleads Guilty

WASHINGTON, Aug. 27 ? Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican of Idaho, was arrested in June by an undercover police officer in a men?s bathroom at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, and pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in the case three weeks ago.

They couldn't wait to get that R out!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08...ashington/31boise.html
Tape Shows a Senator Protesting After Arrest
BOISE, Idaho, Aug. 30 ? In the moments after Senator Larry E. Craig was arrested in an airport men?s room, he accused an undercover police sergeant of entrapping him, emphasized that he did not want to go to court or to jail and frequently said, ?I don?t recall,? when asked about his reported sexual advances to the officer.
The tense exchanges between Mr. Craig, Republican of Idaho, and the sergeant were captured on a nine-minute audiotape made public on Thursday under the Minnesota public records law.


FAIR and balanced media? Yep. Then again this is the paper that has endorsed ever Democrat for President since Eisenhower.....

No liberal bias hahahaha! I actually had to look the guy up on Wiki to find out which party he belonged to. If this guy was a republican it would have probably been the first word in the headline.

 

[RKDaley]

Originally posted by: Genx87

No liberal bias hahahaha! I actually had to look the guy up on Wiki to find out which party he belonged to.

It was noted in the article. From the OP:

Mr. Spitzer, a first-term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform and end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Dari
Got it. No need to beat me over the head with this moral crusade. The fact is when guys are jerking off to some porno and not telling their wives, that's cheating, if you interpret what those vows mean. Women have men beat in this game of marriage because they can hold out much longer. It's like having a swimming contest against a fish.

Wait a minute... Earlier in the thread you said a married guy having sex outside the marriage but without love really wasn't cheating but now you're saying a married guy spanking to pr0n is... 😕 You lost me somewhere.

Word of advice... Talk to your fiancee about this topic BEFORE you get married. You might save yourself a lot of time, money, and misery. 😉

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

In most states, Im sure NY is the same, the duty of the Lt Governer is similar to the Vice President. So the Lt. Gov will fill the remainder of the term.

guess it'll give Hillary something to think about if she's bored in 2010 😉

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Another "sin" that should be legal, along with soft drugs and euthanasia.


Stupid Flanders!

The fact that he's married with kids and cheated on his wife is more of a put-off than the ho-banging IMHO.

Is that considered cheating? He didn't love the whores. He paid for the sex. Just asking.

Ask the wife.

Well the vows said to love, cherish, and obey. It didn't say he couldn't have sex. This is something I've been thinking about for a long time. So long as he's not giving his heart to another woman, he isn't technically cheating. Besides, women care more about love than sex when it comes to relationships. Men are opposite.

So then what does that part about "forsaking all others" mean? If you don't think this is cheating or against marriage vows you're nuts.

Forsaking all others? Never heard that one before. I guess I should read the manual carefully before buying.

Yes, I think you should. You sound too immature to think about marriage right now. Get the oat sowing out of your system first.

While you can write your own vows if you want... these are traditional vows:

Minister says to the groom: "_____, wilt thou have ____ to be thy wedded wife, to live together after God's ordinance, in the holy estate of matrimony? Wilt thou love her, comfort her, honor and keep her, in sickness and in health; and forsaking all others, keep thee only unto her, so long as ye both shall live?"

From here...

It seems as if that "forsaking all others" part is a recurring theme.

Oh puhlease. Spare me the moral beatdown. I'm being honest here and you're calling me immature? It's easy for women to have only one sex partner but very difficult for men. That's why in many culture men have multiple wives. That's why men cheat on their wives. That's why men have porno collections. It has nothing to do with immaturity.

You are a master at rationalization and making excuses for yourself. You should not marry unless you have made it clear to your wife to be she won't be the only one.

Got it. No need to beat me over the head with this moral crusade. The fact is when guys are jerking off to some porno and not telling their wives, that's cheating, if you interpret what those vows mean. Women have men beat in this game of marriage because they can hold out much longer. It's like having a swimming contest against a fish.

No, it's like taking somebody who loves and trusts you and stabbing them in the ass. It does wonders for human joy, especially for kids who get a jerk for a Dad. Who do you think you're kidding with that, it's harder for men crap. You think you're not talking to somebody who might know what it takes? Being a faithful husband is way easier than being an ass. It's all about how you feel, a little wimp who has to have it from the whole world to prove he's a stud, or somebody who has self love. It's only hard to have character when you start with none. My needs my wants and fuck the morality crap. Right.

 

[ScottMac]

He's not being charged with any prostitution-related charges ... since he sent the money across state lines (wired the money), his crime is moving money across state lines for a criminal enterprise (a federal offense).

The prostitution is incidental as the "illegal enterprise" ...


There was some speculation that he's negotiating a plea deal ... resignation for dropped charges.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i knew that guy was a scumbag

I know you are.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose
Sigh. At least it was with women. Adult women. Adult, consenting women. 🙁

Yeah, obviously it's "better" than just an affair... :roll:

Sheesh..

No, but if feels a tad less tawdry to me than groping strangers of the same sex under the stall in airport men's rooms.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose
Sigh. At least it was with women. Adult women. Adult, consenting women. 🙁

Yeah, obviously it's "better" than just an affair... :roll:

Sheesh..

No, but if feels a tad less tawdry to me than groping strangers of the same sex under the stall in airport men's rooms.

Yeah, much better to pay for sex.... :roll:

..or are you trying to hint that this is less bad because it wasn't a "gay" thing. Hmmm....

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Yeah, much better to pay for sex.... :roll:

..or are you trying to hint that this is less bad because it wasn't a "gay" thing. Hmmm....

Whether they'll admit it or not I'll bet there's a lot of people here and elsewhere who think just that. The difference is I don't think Spitzer was an in-the-closet homophobe like Larry Craig. 😉

 

[Jadow]

I think his wife is pretty hot, this move makes no sense unless she's a total cold fish.

 

[Turkish]

Damn... this must be huge news in the U.S. right now as even I knew about all the stuff this guy has pulled in the past 15 years (Gambino, Big 10 cases). What he got himself involved in is totally messed up considering he has been prosecuting these pepole himself but can't say anything about it morally. Regardless of how little of us can admit it on here, most of us WILL cheat on our wifes if there's nothing going under the blanket, whether it is with a prostitute or a random hookup.

 

[ultimatebob]

Sooo... how much is the stock market going to rally tomorrow? Wall Street hated this guy, and I bet that they'll be celebrating his departure!

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perknose
Sigh. At least it was with women. Adult women. Adult, consenting women. 🙁

Yeah, obviously it's "better" than just an affair... :roll:

Sheesh..

No, but if feels a tad less tawdry to me than groping strangers of the same sex under the stall in airport men's rooms.

Yeah, much better to pay for sex.... :roll:

..or are you trying to hint that this is less bad because it wasn't a "gay" thing. Hmmm....

CAD the angry partisan, always looking for an angle, no matter how obscure or discredited. :roll:

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ScottMac
He's not being charged with any prostitution-related charges ... since he sent the money across state lines (wired the money), his crime is moving money across state lines for a criminal enterprise (a federal offense).

The prostitution is incidental as the "illegal enterprise" ...


There was some speculation that he's negotiating a plea deal ... resignation for dropped charges.

He can be charged with several federal crimes.

The one they are talking about right now is "structuring"

This case didnt start out as a prostitution case. It started out with the Feds thinking it was a corruption case. The IRS noticed suspicious activity on the part of Spitzer. Activity that looks like bribery/corruption. It led to this. He broke several laws, prostitution is the least of his worries. Being a "John" makes you look bad in the public, but it doesnt net you jail time. Hes looking at huge fines and a possibility of actual prison time.