Elementary student brings pot to school to turn in his parents

[lxskllr]

You must have a magical fireplace, because mine kicks in a good bit of smoke fairly frequently.

My church used to burn incense, and sometimes it was so strong I felt half sick.

Your half credit on the grilling is due to fact that it is indeed usually done outside. However, I also cook inside, and some foods are quite smoky, and the exhaust fans remove about half of the smoke.

 

[KeithTalent]

Everyone gets lucky. Many had smoking parents that are now in their 30's-40's.

Many now have health issues because of it.

I played contact sports, never was affected really either. However, my alcohol consumption would have killed many over my 25 years

Yeah, I'm in my 30's and have no issues yet. In fact most of the parents of my friends growing up were smokers, but the only friend of mine that had issues growing up (fat asthmatic) was living in a totally smoke free household. Just genetics I guess. :hmm:

KT

 

[thecoolnessrune]

You must have a magical fireplace, because mine kicks in a good bit of smoke fairly frequently.

My church used to burn incense, and sometimes it was so strong I felt half sick.

Your half credit on the grilling is due to fact that it is indeed usually done outside. However, I also cook inside, and some foods are quite smoky, and the exhaust fans remove about half of the smoke.

I dont know. Maybe the fireplace in the home I go to is just taken care of? Considering its around 15 years old, I can't imagine it being *that* magical.

I agree that burning incense is silly. I never got sick off of it but I've definitely gotten in a coughing fit from those "scented candles" women seem to gush over.

I cook inside too, but I have to say usually food smoking isn't a good thing. A steak smoking up doesn't mean "great job!" Usually when your food is creating the smoke it means something is wrong with what you're doing. Besides pouring wine into a pan to watch it burn. Though then again that doesn't really smoke. :hmm:

And lets try not to get too off topic. Its not the flames that are harmful. It's whatever chemicals are being released into the air from the rapid oxidation. Incense does produce wood smoke though I think its the incense particles itself that get to some people. But the chemicals in cigarette smoke, marijuana smoke, crack smoke, etc., etc., are well-known and documented to be poisonous and hazardous to the health of anyone, young or old. As long as there is freedom of choice for all parties, I don't care about people doing any of these things. As soon as you endanger some other non-consenual party (child in a home with constant smoking, drunk driving, doing drugs which drastically alter state of mind in public and therefore put everyone else along with yourself at risk), your freedom to do so needs to be curbed because no-one should be allowed to force another person to have known toxic substances put into their body.

 

[ShawnD1]

Males do better in school when you start them at 6 in kindergarten instead of at 5. Nothing wrong with being 11 in 5th grade.

Pretty much all kids will do better if they are held back because people tend to get smarter as they get older (up to a certain point). Think of if you had to do high school again right now. How do you think you would do? I'm pretty sure I would crush the hell out of it. Young kids also seem to have shorter attention spans. In university it's pretty standard to have 3-4 hour lab classes. Try holding a 6 year old's attention for 3-4 hours and see how well that goes.


I don't get the cooking reference either. I cook everything in crazy amounts of oil, so it never really smokes. Cooking at too high a temperature causes oil to splash everywhere and that's how I know it's too hot.

 

[lxskllr]

And lets try not to get too off topic. Its not the flames that are harmful. It's whatever chemicals are being released into the air from the rapid oxidation. Incense does produce wood smoke though I think its the incense particles itself that get to some people. But the chemicals in cigarette smoke, marijuana smoke, crack smoke, etc., etc., are well-known and documented to be poisonous and hazardous to the health of anyone, young or old.

There's nothing especially harmful about tobacco, marijuana, incense, or any other kind of smoke. It's all bad for you to some degree. Humans have been around smoke since there have been humans. The current mass hysteria over it is due to political reasons, and isn't based in fact.

 

[DrPizza]

nice excuse for bad parenting.

My parents had many things that at 10-12 years old I knew about but couldn't get to. It sort of has to do with being taken care of rather than just being left at home all day with no adults around.

Too many would rather have high speed internet and that Lexus in the driveway than pay for childcare.

Are you retarded? The product of good parenting will not attempt to access things they're not supposed to access because they were told not to. How does that sound like bad parenting? If you think that an 11 year old would have immediate adult supervision 24/7, you're delusional, else would be bringing up disfunctional children. (Perhaps it's a good thing you didn't have children.) If it would have taken you "all day with no adults around" to get to something when you were 11 years old, you must have been functionally retarded or something. 10 minutes or less would be all that it takes. i.e. about as long as it would take to fold a load of laundry, about as long as it would take in the bathroom to take a shower,. . .

 

[thecoolnessrune]

There's nothing especially harmful about tobacco, marijuana, incense, or any other kind of smoke. It's all bad for you to some degree. Humans have been around smoke since there have been humans. The current mass hysteria over it is due to political reasons, and isn't based in fact.

dude.. I'm completely for legalization but what you're saying is simply not true. There are thousands of toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke. Many of those chemicals are in marijuana smoke. We know this. Studies have been done for DECADES that show the toxic substances in cigarette smoke.

Hell yes all smoke is bad to breathe (if anything because of the particles). Burn a tire and its even worse. Burn fiberglass, definitely not good. But we're not talking about any of that. We're talking about performing a self-consensual act that involves others non-consensually. It's a pretty simple concept.

Car bursts into flames in an accident releasing tons of toxic tire smoke. <-- No ones at fault because no one could consent.

Burning a tire and releasing tons of toxic fumes. <-- Illegal.

It's well known that we don't allow people to burn that which is known to produce toxic chemicals when burned. Do you think people should be allowed burn plastics in a home with children simply because they feel they like the high they get?

 

[lxskllr]

dude.. I'm completely for legalization but what you're saying is simply not true. There are thousands of toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke. Many of those chemicals are in marijuana smoke. We know this. Studies have been done for DECADES that show the toxic substances in cigarette smoke.

There's thousands of toxic chemicals in ALL smoke. Just because no one gave enough of a shit to study it doesn't mean they aren't there ;^)

 

[ShawnD1]

It's well known that we don't allow people to burn that which is known to produce toxic chemicals when burned. Do you think people should be allowed burn plastics in a home with children simply because they feel they like the high they get?

Um yes? If you want to burn a tire in your basement, go nuts. I think it's a bad idea, but that's my bias.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

There's thousands of toxic chemicals in ALL smoke. Just because no one gave enough of a shit to study it doesn't mean they aren't there ;^)

lol man, again, if you can't understand the difference between non-consensual smoke inhalation causing harm and consensual smoke inhalation causing harm then you're simply being unknowingly or willingly ignorant, or you really fell off the boat at some point :hmm:

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Um yes? If you want to burn a tire in your basement, go nuts. I think it's a bad idea, but that's my bias.

So what if its a bad idea? If you're a child you don't have a choice. You sit in that home and enjoy that smoke with that person.

Or you turn them in. :\

 

[lxskllr]

lol man, again, if you can't understand the difference between non-consensual smoke inhalation causing harm and consensual smoke inhalation causing harm then you're simply being unknowingly or willingly ignorant, or you really fell off the boat at some point :hmm:

Whether it's consensual or non-consensual isn't the issue; it's whether it matters at all. Kids get put into cars against their best interests and driven all over breathing fumes the whole way. A steak gets a little out of control in a pan, and smokes up the house, someone comes home from work and smokes a cigarette... How many of these actions are consensual? How many of these affect long term health? Hint, it's <1

 

[ShawnD1]

So what if its a bad idea? If you're a child you don't have a choice. You sit in that home and enjoy that smoke with that person.

Or you turn them in. :\

The difference is that turning your dad in for burning a tire results in a fine. They don't take his kids away, give him a criminal record, and throw him in jail for 20 years.

 

[dud]

This forum must be populated by specialist doctors. What are you all doing at Anandtech?

 

[Lummex]

this is RIDICULOUS

 

[0roo0roo]

little red guard done well.
need to put him into leadership now.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Whether it's consensual or non-consensual isn't the issue; it's whether it matters at all. Kids get put into cars against their best interests and driven all over breathing fumes the whole way. A steak gets a little out of control in a pan, and smokes up the house, someone comes home from work and smokes a cigarette... How many of these actions are consensual? How many of these affect long term health? Hint, it's <1

The bolded is what I'm talking about that shows how foolish you're being. As I even said, I had no issues with cigarette smoke. But I lived with and know many people to whom such interactions would be very debilitating (Asthmatics probably being the most well known). Your steak example even by your own admission is not only accidental, but occasional. The average smoker, by conservative standards, smokes 10 cigarettes a day. If these are smoked indoors, this is far more than "accidentally burning a steak". Even marijuana cigs release quite a bit of harmful smoke when used.

And again, I'm all but certain you know this, but are simply unable to look at it from an objective viewpoint. Your bias shows. :thumbsdown:

 

[thecoolnessrune]

The difference is that turning your dad in for burning a tire results in a fine. They don't take his kids away, give him a criminal record, and throw him in jail for 20 years.

Lol, while a dad burning his tire in his back yard results in a fine, you really believe a dad burning a tire in his basement would result in just a fine?

 

[lxskllr]

The bolded is what I'm talking about that shows how foolish you're being. As I even said, I had no issues with cigarette smoke. But I lived with and know many people to whom such interactions would be very debilitating (Asthmatics probably being the most well known). Your steak example even by your own admission is not only accidental, but occasional. The average smoker, by conservative standards, smokes 10 cigarettes a day. If these are smoked indoors, this is far more than "accidentally burning a steak". Even marijuana cigs release quite a bit of harmful smoke when used.

And again, I'm all but certain you know this, but are simply unable to look at it from an objective viewpoint. Your bias shows. :thumbsdown:

When I was growing up EVERYONE smoked. There were 3 full time smokers in my house. I started smoking full time when I was 16. I didn't start to get affected until I was in my late 20s. After quitting smoking, my respiratory health returned. You nail me for bringing up special circumstances, yet you do it yourself. Asthmatics? You need to make special allowances for pre existing health conditions. That's same thing as me saying ice cream should be banned from the house because my daughter's diabetic. Oxygen is harmful to humans. Maybe that should be banned too....

 

[thecoolnessrune]

When I was growing up EVERYONE smoked. There were 3 full time smokers in my house. I started smoking full time when I was 16. I didn't start to get affected until I was in my late 20s. After quitting smoking, my respiratory health returned. You nail me for bringing up special circumstances, yet you do it yourself. Asthmatics? You need to make special allowances for pre existing health conditions. That's same thing as me saying ice cream should be banned from the house because my daughter's diabetic. Oxygen is harmful to humans. Maybe that should be banned too....

See? There you go again making every example you make *consensual*. A person can *choose* to not have ice cream, a person can *choose* to inhale oxygen (even the exaggerated pure oxygen you're weakly attempting to reference). Children living in a home of smokers can't *choose* to not have to inhale the *knowingly harmful* smoke that covers all the furniture, walls, air., everything.

I don't really think the relationship between consensual and non-consensual can be clarified any more than it is. If you seriously still dont get it you're just not going to get it.. D:

 

[coloumb]

So most think this kid was stupid for reporting a crime and should have just looked the other way?

Until marijuana is legalized, all of the idiotic comparisons to LEGAL consumption of alcohol and cigarettes is pointless.

 

[lxskllr]

I'm quite familiar with English, and I'm well aware of the definition of consensual. Your mind is so clouded with preconceived notions, you only see your view. Smoke DOESN'T matter. I could pick apart your life, and the choices you make for your future kids, and have your ass in jail if we hold the same standard as you do for smoke. I see kids do things/consume things all the time with the full blessing of their "good" parents which is just as bad, if not worse than second hand smoke. It's all just politics, and anti tobacco/weed zealotry.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I'm quite familiar with English, and I'm well aware of the definition of consensual. Your mind is so clouded with preconceived notions, you only see your view. Smoke DOESN'T matter. I could pick apart your life, and the choices you make for your future kids, and have your ass in jail if we hold the same standard as you do for smoke. I see kids do things/consume things all the time with the full blessing of their "good" parents which is just as bad, if not worse than second hand smoke. It's all just politics, and anti tobacco/weed zealotry.

Eh? We know second-hand smoke is a lung irritant. Why do you think its ok for a parent to sit there puffing cigs and throwing out all that junk that again is known to be an irritant?

From there you go on just to make more examples of things that children are *consenting* to, just further breaking down your own point. I suppose we could say raping adults doesn't matter either. After all, its just a vaginal irritant right? There's no harm in non-consensual just as long as the effects aren't long term, right? :thumbsup:

 

[Ruptga]

this is RIDICULOUS

haha

you said dick.

 

[Narmer]

sounds like china! forced education through labor!

I thought this was america, where I could sit in my room and jack off all day if I wanted to.

You can. However, when you're broke, have a cramp in your hand, and are hungary, who's going to feed you? Would you do the rest of society a favor and go into a cave and die? No, you won't. Therefore, should you ask anything of society society has the right to demand certain things from you.