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Elementary student brings pot to school to turn in his parents

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PhineasJWhoopee said:
No, they're bad because they are bad. Something can be bad and legal.

Just because alcohol and tobacco are legal, marijuana should be?
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Uh, well.. yes. See, we would like to think our laws are based on logic and reason. However, that isn't always the case.

Define "bad".

Alcohol and tobacco kill tens of thousands of people a year. You can count all the people that marijuana has killed in the last 75,000 years on one hand.

If we're using the amount of death, pain and suffering a drug causes to determine how "bad" it is, marijuana should be legal and consuming alcohol should be a felony, with tobacco falling somewhere in between. 😀

There really isn't any denying that our drug laws make no sense. Remember, alcohol used to be illegal. Do you know why we re-legalized it?

Hint: Because it took the manufacture and distribution of alcohol underground. Prices skyrocketed. Violence went up. It lined the pockets of criminals. And guess what? If you wanted alcohol, you could get it.

Sound familiar?

Good fucking christ, it's sickening watching us do this to ourselves.
 
Wow, when I was a kid I threw my Mom's cigarettes out a few times, but I never would never have turned her in for anything. My Aunt had pot in her house, but again, I always knew not to do it, but never ever would have reported a family member. Crazy.

Kid sure screwed up the family now. Damn.

KT
 
Wow... what is wrong with you people? Blaming the kid for this? Calling him a snitch?
The kid knew pot was illegal. He was probably sick of his parents toking it up in the house, and he reached out for help.

I'm not saying I am anti-pot, but these parents were definitely smoking around their kid. These parents are to blame for getting busted.
 
KeithTalent said:
Wow, when I was a kid I threw my Mom's cigarettes out a few times, but I never would never have turned her in for anything. My Aunt had pot in her house, but again, I always knew not to do it, but never ever would have reported a family member. Crazy.

Kid sure screwed up the family now. Damn.

KT
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How about the family sure screwed up the kid? Ever think of that?
 
moshquerade said:
Wow... what is wrong with you people? Blaming the kid for this? Calling him a snitch?
The kid knew pot was illegal. He was probably sick of his parents toking it up in the house, and he reached out for help.

I'm not saying I am anti-pot, but these parents were definitely smoking around their kid. These parents are to blame for getting busted.
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I don't think anyone is calling the kid a snitch. If anything, we are calling him naive. Do you think this experience is going to be a positive one regarding drug laws and the police? There's no way. I would be willing to bet he knew he had made a big mistake the moment he opened his mouth. But it was too late.

What they should have done is had a talk with their child, to make sure they understand. Instead, they left it open to suggestion. Unfortunately, that suggestion came from a police officer.

Smoking marijuana around children is no worse than drinking alcohol around children. Both should be shunned by society, but it isn't the end of the world.

moshquerade said:
How about the family sure screwed up the kid? Ever think of that?
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Screwed the kid up how? I mean I understand what you're saying, but.. bad parents are bad parents. It doesn't matter whether they smoke marijuana, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes or are completely sober.
 
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moshquerade said:
Wow... what is wrong with you people? Blaming the kid for this? Calling him a snitch?
The kid knew pot was illegal. He was probably sick of his parents toking it up in the house, and he reached out for help.

I'm not saying I am anti-pot, but these parents were definitely smoking around their kid. These parents are to blame for getting busted.
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I don't blame the kid, he's just a Tool of the epic failure known as the War on Drugs. I suppose Family Values includes breaking apart families for the sake of a lost cause.
 
moshquerade said:
How about the family sure screwed up the kid? Ever think of that?
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No, they both made mistakes, but him listening to the DARE propaganda led him to potentially break-up the family by accident. It's a shitty situation all around for such an irrelevant thing, it's just hard for me to fathom doing something at that age, an age you should very much be aware of these types of things.

KT
 
PhineasJWhoopee said:
I didn't have to. My parents weren't drug addicts.
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troll, troll, troll your boat

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sandorski said:
I don't blame the kid, he's just a Tool of the epic failure known as the War on Drugs. I suppose Family Values includes breaking apart families for the sake of a lost cause.
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You think the kids won't go back with the parents? You think they've forever lost custody over this? They'll get them back. Child Protective Services doesn't want to break up families. That isn't their goal.

Hopefully what comes out of this is the parents get their shit together and never do drugs again.
 
KeithTalent said:
No, they both made mistakes, but him listening to the DARE propaganda led him to potentially break-up the family by accident. It's a shitty situation all around for such an irrelevant thing, it's just hard for me to fathom doing something at that age, an age you should very much be aware of these types of things.

KT
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You can't put that on an 11 year old. He likely didn't know the repercussions of his actions. I would bet he didn't realize it would break up their family.
C'mon, the kid was reaching out for help.

You cannot be thinking smoking pot in front of your kids is ok... can you?
 
Weed isn't exactly "drugs". I don't know their specific situation, but weed causes less impairment than alcohol, which is perfectly acceptable to the government, not that it's any of their business anyway....
 
moshquerade said:
You think the kids won't go back with the parents? You think they've forever lost custody over this? They'll get them back. Child Protective Services doesn't want to break up families. That isn't their goal.

Hopefully what comes out of this is the parents get their shit together and never do drugs again.
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Is there any evidence of neglect? How do you know that their shit ain't together?
 
moshquerade said:
You can't put that on an 11 year old. He likely didn't know the repercussions of his actions. I would bet he didn't realize it would break up their family.
C'mon, the kid was reaching out for help.

You cannot be thinking smoking pot in front of your kids is ok... can you?
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We used to have those speakers at that age, and younger, and I knew family members that did drugs. The last thing I ever thought was to turn them in. I'm not blaming him, I just think it sucks that was the response, which was likely instigated by the DARE people.

I do not think it is any worse than drinking in front of your kids but I don't think you should do either of those things in front of them.

KT
 
KeithTalent said:
We used to have those speakers at that age, and younger, and I knew family members that did drugs. The last thing I ever thought was to turn them in. I'm not blaming him, I just think it sucks that was the response, which was likely instigated by the DARE people.

I do not think it is any worse than drinking in front of your kids but I don't think you should do either of those things in front of them.

KT
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you think smoking pot is the same as having a beer?
ummm.... no. in this country one is legal and one is not. that changes things. not saying one should be illegal while the other is legal, but that is the way it is.
 
moshquerade said:
you think smoking pot is the same as having a beer?
ummm.... no. in this country one is legal and one is not. that changes things. not saying one should be illegal while the other is legal, but that is the way it is.
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so children should be taken away if parents do anything illegal?

is that what you're getting at?

So if anal sex was illegal in CA and I started boning my wife in the ass, my kids should be taken away cuz I was performing an illegal activity?

:biggrin:

(not that I would do that in front of my kids!)
 
moshquerade said:
you think smoking pot is the same as having a beer?
ummm.... no. in this country one is legal and one is not. that changes things. not saying one should be illegal while the other is legal, but that is the way it is.
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Yes I do think it is the same except from my experience alcohol leads to more negligent and violent behaviour than pot ever does or ever has.

KT
 
moshquerade said:
You can't put that on an 11 year old. He likely didn't know the repercussions of his actions. I would bet he didn't realize it would break up their family.
C'mon, the kid was reaching out for help.

You cannot be thinking smoking pot in front of your kids is ok... can you?
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You sure do sound anti-pot to me, Mosh. 😀

He knows the repercussions of his actions now. Do you think he will like them? Absolutely not.

Do you drink alcohol? Come on, the "don't do drugs" thing is so 80s. Marijuana is no more a "drug" than alcohol, caffeine or cigarettes are. They're all drugs.

I chose not to draw arbitrary lines in the sand, and rather look at it from a logical, reasonable perspective.

Therefor, considering that almost nobody on the planet would have any qualms about drinking in front of their children, there is nothing wrong with smoking marijuana in front of your children.

If you disagree that it's okay to drink in front of your children, then I agree with your principles and would agree with your statement about smoking in front of children.
 
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