Elementary student brings pot to school to turn in his parents

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Eli

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The kid is smarter than most of you here. You can try to argue, but all of your arguments are total BS.

First, you don't know this kid's situation. Maybe his parents were doing other drugs as well and beating the kid every night. Maybe his parents were neglecting the kid. You don't know the full story. So before you go demonizing the kid, why don't you consider how dumb you are for jumping to conclusions. Everyone has their reasons for doing what they do. Just because you can smoke pot in front of your kids and make 100k/year as an ambitious go-getter doesn't mean everyone can. You people are ridiculous.

Who in the thread demonized the kid? If anything, we demonized the slimy officer that would take advantage of a young mind to rat out their own parents.

Do you think the end result of this is okay? Do you think this kid is going to have a high opinion of the police and drug laws? That is very highly doubtful.

Again, a bad parent is a bad parent. The marijuana has nothing to do with it. If this kid was being abused or something and this was his way out, then so be it. He could have just told someone though, and again it has little to nothing to do with the marijuana itself. If that is the case, this story is simply sensationalistic BS.
 

chusteczka

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lol Opium was in China way before America was even an idea.
Opium was used and traded across Persia and East Asia well before Europeans even discovered America.

The information I studied in my college Chinese history class disagrees with you.
 

qliveur

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I blame the parents. If they'd been smart they'd have let the kid take a toke every once in a while and he'd have been less inclined to believe the D.A.R.E. brainwashing and turn them in. :p
 

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and that the kid has full access to the whole stash.

This is one of the main problems that kills those that want to legalize it. If those doing it can't even keep it from their kids when it's illegal, what's going to happen when it's easier to get.

Even if their own kid knows not to touch it, every friend that comes over may not be so smart.

You don't have kids. An 11 year old can get to anything he wants in a house, short of an expensive safe. The only effective way in keeping kids from touching things they're not supposed to touch in the house is the way you raise them. They can either do it out of respect for your rules, or out of fear of the repercussions. But, other than that, the kids can get to anything they want. We're not talking about babies who are stopped by little plastic plugs inserted into an outlet. The kid is in middle school.
If you had kids, you would know this.
 

qliveur

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^Yup, and by the time they're that age there's probably no way to keep secrets from them, either.
I thought it was the British involved in the Opium Trade?
I think it was the Spanish at first, then the British later on.
 
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JulesMaximus

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Honestly, if I was the kid's teacher I'd probably just call the parents in for a parent/teacher conference and destroy their weed...I'd probably be fired for that though. :rolleyes:
 

qliveur

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^Yeah, the Opium War was juuuust a bit one-sided. :D
Honestly, if I was the kid's teacher I'd probably just call the parents in for a parent/teacher conference and destroy their weed...I'd probably be fired for that though. :rolleyes:
But it didn't involve the teachers; it involved the cops and the D.A.R.E. program.
 

Eli

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If you drink around your kids for the purpose of getting wasted around them, then you are wrong.

You smoke weed to get high, so yes, doing it around your kids is wrong.


That's not the behavior of a responsible parent, regardless of the legality of a substance.

See, this is where the disconnect is with the real world.

No, you don't smoke weed to get high - you smoke weed to relax after work. There is a subtle but distinct difference. That mentality is where the whole "DRUGS!! BAD!!" thing comes from. Sure, you can get stoned out of your gourd, just like you can get shitfaced drunk. That doesn't mean anything, though.

It really is fundamentally no different than the person that goes to the bar and has a couple of beers after work. None. That is how responsible people use marijuana.

Just like there are lots of irresponsible drunks, there are certainly irresponsible stoners. They are the minority though, in both cases.

Teenagers don't count. :p
 
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DrPizza

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America (i.e. the Onassis family) introduced opium to China a couple hundred years ago. This drug turned a large portion of the population into useless druggies, unable and unwilling to farm. It basically disabled the entire country.

Why don't you use google to find half a dozen sources for how it actually was introduced to China. Introduced is probably the wrong word though; promoted might be a better word. And, it wasn't by America. You might even want to search for the phrase "opium wars."

So, either you've got something backwards from your class & are thinking of something else. Otherwise, the quality of your education is in question.

edit: to ShawnD1, iirc, opium poppies originated in the Mediterranean area.
 
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bfdd

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You don't have kids. An 11 year old can get to anything he wants in a house, short of an expensive safe. The only effective way in keeping kids from touching things they're not supposed to touch in the house is the way you raise them. They can either do it out of respect for your rules, or out of fear of the repercussions. But, other than that, the kids can get to anything they want. We're not talking about babies who are stopped by little plastic plugs inserted into an outlet. The kid is in middle school.
If you had kids, you would know this.

How do people all of a sudden forget what it was like when they were a kid? I mean fucking honestly are people that goddamn stupid? I have hardly any memories from when I was a kid, but I remember what it was like being a child.
 

alkemyst

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Let's cut the bullshit. Recreational weed smokers aren't doing it for "health" reasons. They do it to get high.

And heroin is an even better pain killer. Most people don't use it for that purpose either. And neither should be done around kids.

It's funny that as soon as it becomes medically legal in areas all the pot-heads now have medical necessity to have it.

I have no problem with those that use drugs responsibly, but too many pot smokers do it over lunch hour and come back to work 'stoned' whether they think so or not.
 

chusteczka

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Why don't you use google to find half a dozen sources for how it actually was introduced to China. Introduced is probably the wrong word though; promoted might be a better word. And, it wasn't by America. You might even want to search for the phrase "opium wars."

So, either you've got something backwards from your class & are thinking of something else. Otherwise, the quality of your education is in question.

I will go with "got something backwards". I was mixing Commodore Perry's opening of Japan with the China, and the opium wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_C._Perry

It is good to be corrected, as painful as it is.
 

qliveur

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China = zerg rush

Doesn't opium natively grow in Asia? Why would it be introduced by the brits?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_does_opium_grow
To prevent a trade deficit with China. Britain had access to lots of cheap opium grown in India. Remember that India back then included a large part of southern Asia as well, where the poppies are still grown today. They traded the cheap opium for expensive goods from China, and in the process they also managed to turn a large percentage of the Chinese population into junkies.
 

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I have a question for those in the alcohol = marijuana camp that think ignoring the laws is okay.

What is your opinion about sexual relationships between questionable ages?

Is there a difference between a 25-year-old having sex with an 18-year-old and someone who is 17 the day before their birthday?

Is one okay but the other isn't? Are both okay? Are both not okay? Explain.

(Not trying to start a flame war, but I'm curious how positions transfer into other issues)
 

lxskllr

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I have a question for those in the alcohol = marijuana camp that think ignoring the laws is okay.

What is your opinion about sexual relationships between questionable ages?

Is there a difference between a 25-year-old having sex with an 18-year-old and someone who is 17 the day before their birthday?

Is one okay but the other isn't? Are both okay? Are both not okay? Explain.

(Not trying to start a flame war, but I'm curious how positions transfer into other issues)

They're the same thing obviously, and both are ok. Nothing magical happens when you hit an arbitrary day, based on an arbitrary calendar.
 

shortylickens

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I have a question for those in the alcohol = marijuana camp that think ignoring the laws is okay.

What is your opinion about sexual relationships between questionable ages?

Is there a difference between a 25-year-old having sex with an 18-year-old and someone who is 17 the day before their birthday?

Is one okay but the other isn't? Are both okay? Are both not okay? Explain.

(Not trying to start a flame war, but I'm curious how positions transfer into other issues)

Bull.
Shit.

You are totally setting up the kindling for a flame war. And I salute you.