Eight marijuana stores – from as many as 99 dispensaries that opened – are left.

[Nemesis 1]

When are you guys going to realize . Pot is big money to many already rich americans . A kilo of columbian kryptonite sells for under 5 dollars as a cash crop to the farner . I just shake my head and laugh . How long are you people going to allow middlemen to rape you over and over again . In all things.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Year after year, the general public becomes more favorable towards the making marijuana a legal, but controlled, substance. At least medicinally. At the current trajectory, when do you guys think overwhelming public opinion will finally force the .gov to take action? In the months after Obama took office, he seemed ready to take some action, at least finally leaving up to each state, but he appears to have done a 180 on it.

In theory, if say 75% of the populace wants it legalized, the .gov should make it legal. The .gov is us, for us, not a parent figure that overrides our will.

Apparently the public is not ready for it yet.

Look at what happened to CA; they turned it down after all the polls, potheads and media felt that it would pass with flying colors.

What people may say to be popular is not what the final legal actions are.




While leaving it to each state, when the options is openly abused; then all bets come off the table; The Feds were willing to turn a blind eye to MMJ. then the MJ folks started to openly abuse the option and flaunt that they were doing so. In essence, challenging the Feds. And the Feds carry a bigger stick. Landlords are not going to want their buildings confiscated by the government for some rent payments.

 

[xj0hnx]

When are you guys going to realize . Pot is big money to many already rich americans . A kilo of columbian kryptonite sells for under 5 dollars as a cash crop to the farner . I just shake my head and laugh . How long are you people going to allow middlemen to rape you over and over again . In all things.

It already has a 2000% mark up before it touches an American hand.

 

[xj0hnx]

Apparently the public is not ready for it yet.

Look at what happened to CA; they turned it down after all the polls, potheads and media felt that it would pass with flying colors.

What people may say to be popular is not what the final legal actions are.

Negative Ghost Rider. The MMJ growers were instrumental in getting people to vote against their own interest to keep their cash crop ...their cash crop.

 

[PokerGuy]

Negative Ghost Rider. The MMJ growers were instrumental in getting people to vote against their own interest to keep their cash crop ...their cash crop.

I've heard this before. Is there any evidence to back this up other than anecdotes and speculation?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Negative Ghost Rider. The MMJ growers were instrumental in getting people to vote against their own interest to keep their cash crop ...their cash crop.

So there are more MMJ growers than 50% of the population?

People decided that they did not want it. that was their interest.

Those that claimed to support it, did not based on the results of polls before vs votes afterwards.

The growers may have put out a message and the people accepted it vs the message that the consumers were putting out.

Each was looking out for their own interest and the people decided which message they preferred.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Negative Ghost Rider. The MMJ growers were instrumental in getting people to vote against their own interest to keep their cash crop ...their cash crop.

I've heard this before. Is there any evidence to back this up other than anecdotes and speculation?

Those that are for the legalization can not accept that they were rejected by the people.

so a justification has to be found.

Like anyone that loses in a contest; they can gracefully accept they were beaten or look for excuses.

The MJ people look for excuses ignoring they could not deliver a message and could not get the vote out. It apparently was felt that their message was so clear and right that everyone would embrace the concept.

 

[airdata]

It already has a 2000% mark up before it touches an American hand.

because of legal status.

If you take the drug dealers out of the equation everybody wins.


The war on drugs is a complete farce. Do you guys remember the post 9-11 anti drug commercials that tried to say that if you smoke a joint you support terrorism?

Well, now we're over in Afghanistan helping the rest of the world enjoy the cheapest, most pure heroin since the dark ages.

Our drug policy dictates whether or not cartels live. They're not going to be cutting people's heads off in the street if the value of drugs drops dramatically.

 

[bfdd]

PokerGuy, I have posted the information you are asking about quite a few times on these forums.

Also, in California if you are smoking cannabis from other parts of the world you're doing it wrong. We grow so much high quality bud here and it's so cheap now there's no reason to buy bunky Mexican weed.

 

[bfdd]

even more places closing fearing DEA raids, LA county dispensaries and LA county don't seem to be fearing to much, but i bet they do soon.

 

[SilthDraeth]

I am quite conservative, or maybe more libertarian in my views, but cannabis should be legal completely, not just for medical.

Alcohol is far more dangerous, and is legal. The reasons it is illegal is definitely tied the textile and pharmaceutical industries.

 

[werepossum]

I am quite conservative, or maybe more libertarian in my views, but cannabis should be legal completely, not just for medical.

Alcohol is far more dangerous, and is legal. The reasons it is illegal is definitely tied the textile and pharmaceutical industries.

That's definitely more libertarian than conservative. The libertarian view is that everyone should have as much freedom as possible, until either he infringes on someone else's rights or safety, or can reasonably be expected to do so. Conservatives are much more ready to control others' behavior simply because they don't agree with it.

I too consider myself to be conservative, but I'm not blind to our faults. LOL

 

[davmat787]

I am quite conservative, or maybe more libertarian in my views, but cannabis should be legal completely, not just for medical.

Alcohol is far more dangerous, and is legal. The reasons it is illegal is definitely tied the textile and pharmaceutical industries.

The reasons marijuana was made illegal originally are steeped with racism. There are plenty examples of articles where marijuana crazed african americans were thought to, or alluded to, go on white women raping sprees while under the influence of marijuana. And a way to control the cultural infuences of carib blacks too. Today the reasons you listed are probably more accurate, just speaking to the days of when it was originally ruled illegal.

 

[SilthDraeth]

The reasons marijuana was made illegal originally are steeped with racism. There are plenty examples of articles where marijuana crazed african americans were thought to, or alluded to, go on white women raping sprees while under the influence of marijuana. And a way to control the cultural infuences of carib blacks too. Today the reasons you listed are probably more accurate, just speaking to the days of when it was originally ruled illegal.

I am sure that is partially tied to it, as marijuana was a made up name to give it a Mexican flavor, ie racism. But, hemp was seen as a competitor to textile industry, aka Dupont and newly created nylon, and to the paper industry. As well as the medicinal properties being a competitor to pharmaceuticals.

Hell I read an article a month or so back about an old lady in Washington getting busted with some pot, only to find out she has permission from the Federal Government, under a plan that stopped accepting patients around 2002 (date might be wrong) I believe where the Fed grows pot and gives it to the patients, there were around 20 or so of them. I think like only 8 are still alive. But she gets her medicinal weed direct from the Federal Government.

 

[bfdd]

I am sure that is partially tied to it, as marijuana was a made up name to give it a Mexican flavor, ie racism. But, hemp was seen as a competitor to textile industry, aka Dupont and newly created nylon, and to the paper industry. As well as the medicinal properties being a competitor to pharmaceuticals.

Hell I read an article a month or so back about an old lady in Washington getting busted with some pot, only to find out she has permission from the Federal Government, under a plan that stopped accepting patients around 2002 (date might be wrong) I believe where the Fed grows pot and gives it to the patients, there were around 20 or so of them. I think like only 8 are still alive. But she gets her medicinal weed direct from the Federal Government.

How can anyone take our Federal Government seriously when they treat everything so arbitrarily?