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Ehh, What's Up In Nashville Doc?

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On August 21, 2019, police received a call from an attorney representing Pamela Perry, the woman who said she was the girlfriend of the bomber Anthony Warner, the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department said Tuesday. Her attorney, Raymond Throckmorton, said she had made "suicidal threats to him via telephone."
When police arrived at Perry's home, they found two unloaded pistols near Perry, who said they belonged to Warner. She told officers she did not want them in the home any longer and that Warner was "building bombs in the RV trailer at his residence," according to a "matter of record" report from the MNPD.


The police also spoke to Throckmorton, who once represented Warner and was also present at Perry's home. He told authorities Warner "frequently talks about the military and bomb-making. (Throckmorton) stated that he believes that the suspect knows what he is doing and is capable of making a bomb," the report said.
CNN has reached out to Throckmorton for comment about his account -- first reported by the Tennessean -- but has not yet heard back.
After their visit to Perry's home, police went to Warner's property, but Warner would not open the door for them, a statement from the department said. Because there was no evidence of a crime, they had no authority to enter his home, the department said.

As a semi-minority, I find this story hilarious.

I keep picturing 2 officers at the door asking "Pretty please? Please come to the door?"
 
Nashville Suspect’s Girlfriend Told Police Last Year That He Was Making Bombs https://nyti.ms/2X81v3n


Looks like someone really dropped the ball. Couldn't get a warrant or investigate it further at the time?
WTF...the attorney that told the girlfriend to call the police and report the bomb making threat is the SAME attorney who then wouldn't let police search said boyfriend's property??? Again...WTF!

Also, according to this article the girlfriend was admitted for a mental health issue at the time she made the claim which may have influenced the investigators.

Nashville explosion: Woman warned MNPD Warner was building bomb in 2019 (tennessean.com)

According to the police report and Throckmorton, the woman was experiencing a mental health crisis at the time. Officers called their mobile crisis division, and after talking with the woman, she agreed to be transported by ambulance for a psychological evaluation, Aaron said.
 
WTF...the attorney that told the girlfriend to call the police and report the bomb making threat is the SAME attorney who then wouldn't let police search said boyfriend's property??? Again...WTF!

Also, according to this article the girlfriend was admitted for a mental health issue at the time she made the claim which may have influenced the investigators.

Nashville explosion: Woman warned MNPD Warner was building bomb in 2019 (tennessean.com)

Re-read the story.

Girlfriend made some suicidey comments.
Attorney called cops to do health and welfare check on the girlfriend at her home.
Girlfriends tells cops - boyfriend is nuts and is building a bomb in the RV
Attorney tells cops boyfriend is nuts and building bombs

Cops then go to the Warner's house where no one answer the door so they based on cop logic they decide to go get snacks at 7-11 instead.
 
Re-read the story.

Girlfriend made some suicidey comments.
Attorney called cops to do health and welfare check on the girlfriend at her home.
Girlfriends tells cops - boyfriend is nuts and is building a bomb in the RV
Attorney tells cops boyfriend is nuts and building bombs

Cops then go to the Warner's house where no one answer the door so they based on cop logic they decide to go get snacks at 7-11 instead.

Figured it out....according to MNPD he told them he was also the boyfriend's attorney and had refused entry to them to search the boyfriend's home and RV. (I can't find the article I read that in)

But I also came across this:

"I have no memory of that whatsoever," Throckmorton said of MNPD's claim that said they could not inspect the RV. "I didn’t represent him anymore. He wasn’t an active client. I'm not a criminal defense attorney."

So it looks like the MNPD is saying one thing about this incident and the attorney another.

(NYT article is paywalled so I can't read it.)
 
Figured it out....according to MNPD he told them he was also the boyfriend's attorney and had refused entry to them to search the boyfriend's home and RV. (I can't find the article I read that in)

But I also came across this:

"I have no memory of that whatsoever," Throckmorton said of MNPD's claim that said they could not inspect the RV. "I didn’t represent him anymore. He wasn’t an active client. I'm not a criminal defense attorney."

So it looks like the MNPD is saying one thing about this incident and the attorney another.

(NYT article is paywalled so I can't read it.)
This is from the NYT article linked by Brainonska511.

A spokesman for the Police Department, Don Aaron, said in a statement that the police “saw no evidence of a crime and had no authority to enter his home or fenced property.” The girlfriend’s lawyer also represented Mr. Warner, according to the police, and told officers later that he would “not allow his client to permit a visual inspection of the R.V.”
 
5G is dandy... on the right carrier, in the right circumstances. The problem was that, until this year, the truly noteworthy 5G was limited to millimeter wave service; T-Mobile had widely available 5G on the 600MHz band, but it's not much faster than LTE. Due to mmWave's limitations, you had to effectively hug a cell site to get meaningfully faster data.

The US is ending 2020 with considerably better coverage. The major carriers now have widely available 5G as a rule, even if there are still gaps, and T-Mobile is boosting its speeds with mid-band (2.5GHz) 5G.

AT&T has real 5G, but the problem was that it tried to trick people into thinking it had 5G early with its "5G Evolution" (5GE) branding for what was actually very fast LTE. Most techies know it isn't 5G, but there are legions of people convinced they have 5G phones simply because AT&T had a status icon changed.
And exactly what does 5G allow you to do on something with limited memory, and a small screen that 4G deprives you of? Surely Facebook or Twitter don't really require that level of bandwidth.
 
Investigators have evidence bomber believed in 'lizard people' conspiracy theory

Lizard people? Seems kind of crazy.
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And exactly what does 5G allow you to do on something with limited memory, and a small screen that 4G deprives you of? Surely Facebook or Twitter don't really require that level of bandwidth.
How else are you going to have those ads follow you around in stores, I'm really wondering how I've lived all this time without having my whereabouts and life habits tracked in real time.
 
And exactly what does 5G allow you to do on something with limited memory, and a small screen that 4G deprives you of? Surely Facebook or Twitter don't really require that level of bandwidth.

It's not as big of a leap as LTE was, but it makes large downloads more practical. There's also lower latency on 5G — it's better for augmented/virtual reality, cloud gaming and other services where timing is important.
 
It's not as big of a leap as LTE was, but it makes large downloads more practical. There's also lower latency on 5G — it's better for augmented/virtual reality, cloud gaming and other services where timing is important.
So for gaming... really that's the justification for 5G...
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say nearly all domestic terrorists at this point in time can be traced back to a conspiracy group on social media. But sounds like this guy is a 5G nutcase.
I think you fail and underestimate how much a disgruntled telco employee can cause havoc. Even during union contract negotiations we had employees tearing out circuits for E911 service a few years back. For a domestic terrorist to target a telco building, and specifically this one, seems about the worse target one could choose. It isn't a telco NOC, it wasn't a state of federal building. And terrorist of any kind instill terror by trying to kill people, not warning them to run for it.
That's pure speculation. Warner's motivations are simply unknown at this point & may never be known.
If it turns out he wasn't involved in any radicalization groups on social media I'll eat crow.
Investigators have evidence bomber believed in 'lizard people' conspiracy theory

Well, doesn't look like I'm going to have eat crow on this one... Don't worry, I hadn't wasted anytime looking into recipes.
 
Had America produced so much methamphetamine that is affecting our water supplies now?? Meth Gators were warning us...
 
There's a very noticable overlap between 5G paranoia and Qanonsense. And with anti-vaxx, and with David Icke's particular strand of lunacy.

What gets me is how people are now prepared to go straight to terrorism over the most idiosyncratic forms of crackpottery.

Once it was all about grand ideologies with centuries of history - anarchism or nationalism or religious fundamentalism - now people will plant bombs over crazy theories someone invented from whole cloth a week ago.

That is the price we pay for the internet. There are unstable individuals who are vulnerable to whatever information is willing to drive them over the edge. They were always willing, but never had so much access to others trying to push them. The human race lacks a proper grounding in reality in the face of our modern signal to noise ratio. How our brains fail to process raw information needs a global intervention before the human race does something colossally stupid.
 
The blast seriously damaged a key AT&T network facility, an important hub that provides local wireless, internet and video service and connects to regional networks. Backup generators went down, which took service out hours after the blast. A fire broke out and forced an evacuation. The building flooded, with more than three feet of water later pumped out of the basement; AT&T said there was still water on the second floor as of Monday.

The immediate repercussions were surprisingly widespread. AT&T customers lost service — phones, internet or video — across large parts of Tennessee, Kentucky and Alabama. There were 911 centers in the region that couldn't take calls; others didn't receive crucial data associated with callers, such as their locations. The Nashville police department's phones and internet failed. Stores went cash-only.


At some hospitals, electronic medical records, internet service or phones stopped working. The Nashville airport halted flights for about three hours on Christmas. Rival carrier T-Mobile also had service issues as far away as Atlanta, 250 miles away, because the company uses AT&T equipment for moving customer data from towers to the T-Mobile network.

“People didn’t even realize their dependencies until it failed,” said Doug Schmidt, a Vanderbilt University computer science professor. “I don’t think anyone recognized the crucial role that particular building played” in the region’s telecom infrastructure, he said.





This is why I'm against things like VoIP and 'the cloud'. With onsite systems, you might lose long distance calling and resources, but local calling and services will usually continue to work. If your data and programs are onsite, you can continue to work, even if you can't get to resources offsite.
 
That is the price we pay for the internet. There are unstable individuals who are vulnerable to whatever information is willing to drive them over the edge. They were always willing, but never had so much access to others trying to push them. The human race lacks a proper grounding in reality in the face of our modern signal to noise ratio. How our brains fail to process raw information needs a global intervention before the human race does something colossally stupid.

So we _can_ handle the truth, just about...it's the lies we can't cope with.
 
Investigators have evidence bomber believed in 'lizard people' conspiracy theory


I'm offended that news outlets like this aren't giving Lizard People their full credit--this isn't an "internet theory," it dates back decades. DECADES! The Lizard People theory has been with us for a very, very long time. Hell, there was a terrible early-80s sci fi show about it called "V." (and an even shitter remake in the aughts or nearabout).
 
I'm offended that news outlets like this aren't giving Lizard People their full credit--this isn't an "internet theory," it dates back decades. DECADES! The Lizard People theory has been with us for a very, very long time. Hell, there was a terrible early-80s sci fi show about it called "V." (and an even shitter remake in the aughts or nearabout).

My memory is too scrambled now to remember which came first - that "V" series or David Icke's mental breakdown, when he embraced the same idea as a "real" conspiracy theory. There was also the John Carpenter movie They Live (which, to me, highlighted how one can arrive at alarmingly similar ideas from a more leftist position).

Plus all of them go back to ancient conspiracy theories about 'the Jews'. If only the Czarist Okhrana had watched more SciFi they might have added a lizard theme to the Protocols. It's not even clear to me whether David Icke's talk of 'lizards' is an anti-Semite's calculated euphemism for 'the Jews' or if he sincerely believes it's literally lizards.
 
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