My second ( first would not run over 800mhz memory ZZF card) 6800 limited edition is running the stock shipped bios and at 375 / 1100 just fine. It played doom3 on ultra settings fine at 1024 x 768 32 bit and also 2 higher settings ( not sure exactly fine also ) so it just proves how good these cards are.
So one person overclocks his to 500/1500 and blows his card up and now "everyone" is complaining that they wont run at ultra speeds? I just don't see this happening.. the way I see it, there were maybe 600 of these cards made, and I think maybe 6 people have had severs issues posted (based on the fact that this thread is linked everywhere and I believe a large majority of these card owners have been to this thread)
So you have 1% of the population with a problem. To me that falls well within the margin of error that occurs with any kind of computer component on the market today.
Like I said earlier.. the practice of RMA'ing products that are solely defective based on user error is not the topic of this thread.. and its also a practice that most people do not condone. Of course it happens, it happens a lot.. it doesn't make it right, and I don't think it is right myself.. if you want to reprimand the individuals doing this, then please feel free to point them out and chide them individually.. in fact I will probably join you in chiding them simply because this is one of the reasons that computer components are so expensive.
Here is a hypothetical situation for you: You order some RAM. It doesn't seem to be running at the timings that it is listed as running. So you tweak your BIOS settings some, you up the voltage since it is common knowledge that RAM likes voltage in most cases. Your RAM is warrantied up to 2.7 volts.. so you push it up there and it still won't work. You decide to give it 2.75 volts to see if it helps.. and it seems to work for a while.. everything is good and then one day the same original problems start happening.. ok so the volts wasn't the problem, do you just throw the RAM away and eat the loss because you "voided the warranty" on a product that wasn't working in the first place?
This is pretty much the problem that is occuring here.. noone that complained they can't run at overclocked speeds.. they complained they couldn't run at stock speeds. So instead of instantly RMA'ing, they take matters into their own hands since it saves time, money and hassle. In 99% of the cases it worked thanks to an actual working bios that was made by enthusiasts.. whereas eVGA just shipped out some crappy untested BIOS that either didn't help or made things even worse than before.
And on a last note, the simple fact the eVGA and even Mr. Joe whoever from eVGA have done so much to rectify situation leads me to believe that they know there is a problem with some of these cards.. whether that problem is a hardware one or a bios issue is not determined yet.. and it seems that eVGA is just tired of dealing with it. If they truly believed that all of these cards would run 100% ok at the stock speeds, do you think they would be giving away free games and offering an "upgrade" for $25?
So you have 1% of the population with a problem. To me that falls well within the margin of error that occurs with any kind of computer component on the market today.
Like I said earlier.. the practice of RMA'ing products that are solely defective based on user error is not the topic of this thread.. and its also a practice that most people do not condone. Of course it happens, it happens a lot.. it doesn't make it right, and I don't think it is right myself.. if you want to reprimand the individuals doing this, then please feel free to point them out and chide them individually.. in fact I will probably join you in chiding them simply because this is one of the reasons that computer components are so expensive.
Here is a hypothetical situation for you: You order some RAM. It doesn't seem to be running at the timings that it is listed as running. So you tweak your BIOS settings some, you up the voltage since it is common knowledge that RAM likes voltage in most cases. Your RAM is warrantied up to 2.7 volts.. so you push it up there and it still won't work. You decide to give it 2.75 volts to see if it helps.. and it seems to work for a while.. everything is good and then one day the same original problems start happening.. ok so the volts wasn't the problem, do you just throw the RAM away and eat the loss because you "voided the warranty" on a product that wasn't working in the first place?
This is pretty much the problem that is occuring here.. noone that complained they can't run at overclocked speeds.. they complained they couldn't run at stock speeds. So instead of instantly RMA'ing, they take matters into their own hands since it saves time, money and hassle. In 99% of the cases it worked thanks to an actual working bios that was made by enthusiasts.. whereas eVGA just shipped out some crappy untested BIOS that either didn't help or made things even worse than before.
And on a last note, the simple fact the eVGA and even Mr. Joe whoever from eVGA have done so much to rectify situation leads me to believe that they know there is a problem with some of these cards.. whether that problem is a hardware one or a bios issue is not determined yet.. and it seems that eVGA is just tired of dealing with it. If they truly believed that all of these cards would run 100% ok at the stock speeds, do you think they would be giving away free games and offering an "upgrade" for $25?
I can say with 99% certainty that these cards will never be available from a retailer again. You may find one on ebay someday, but thats about it. If you missed out, then I am fraid it is just too late.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...sPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
A 6800LE is on ebay for $405 with 3 days left!!!!!!!
A 6800LE is on ebay for $405 with 3 days left!!!!!!!
I dont get why everyone is beating on each other for? Bottom line is, the people who want a replacement are people who stuck their cards in their computer, and didnt work. When I had my first card, eVGA had told me to flash the card with another bios, and it didnt work, so I was lucky enough to get an RMA. eVGA screwed up ROYALLY. I dont care what anyone says, they have to make the situation better, a GT wont be enough. Personally, I would rather take the refund + shipping charges rather than take their offer on the GT...Then go buy a GT through BFG, whos warranty is the best in the biz. And for those of you who like to play good samaritan and "turn" those people in who overclock and then rma...frankly thats none of your business, because it doesnt concern you. I hate when people say "itll keep our costs lower." Because ITS NOT TRUE!. The manufacture is making like 1000% selling these cards. They can ask whatever they want for the cards, because people will buy them. A card you buy for 350dollars, probably cost like 50dollars to make, if that. Everyone needs to calm the heck down! :disgust:
Anyone who "missed out" on this is not out of luck, they can buy a 6800GT for $350-$380. ($20-$50 more) and have the functional equivalent of this card. (350/1000 vs 325/1100)
Not a big deal, no reason to "miss out".
a stock LE that is running like it should is still faster than a stock GT.. yes its not a huge deal, but for overclocking enthusiasts, the potential gains from an LE are much greater.. however it is rule #1 that nothing is guaranteed.. if you can only run stock speeds then you got what you paid for, anything else is just a bonus.
I have not seen a GT go for 350.00 yet or even 380.00 as I seem to see them at 400.00 to 425.00. Maybe I am not looking at the right place?
Lets just get this thread back to the 6800 Limited edition talk and nothing else about who did what unfair or you could have got a GT for 25.00 more talk from the start not a RMA offer.
wanted to update,
here is a pic of what I get after flash black/white dots
the white dots dont come out in a screenshot.
Anyhow, the GT bios seems to have it less than the ultra bios did, and with a performance boost.
here is a pic of what I get after flash black/white dots
the white dots dont come out in a screenshot.
Anyhow, the GT bios seems to have it less than the ultra bios did, and with a performance boost.
i'd love to demo your GT bios on my dual DVI setup but i'm afraid to mess up this beautiful thing i have right now. i doubt i'd ever flash this card again <3
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: Rhagz
Yep, good idea.. /em waits patiently for the new and improved GT bios to be released
link
latest beta file is faster in "real" games (not 3dmock tho).
been running real nice for me, no problems.
im awaiting feedback if dual dvi works or not (it should).
Is it slower on benchmarks? The same as before or? whats changed in it?
k will try the other dvi port. im up for any suggestions!
also, how can i make an iso of the contents in the zip (no floppy since 2002)
also, how can i make an iso of the contents in the zip (no floppy since 2002)
Somehow I doubt many GT's are getting 445/1200 with room to spare like my LE does.
But thats just my crazy idea.
Well i tried the dualdvi bios.. the monitor only works in the one dvi port, not in the other.. is it not supposed to work unless i have 2 montiors installed? also, the clocks are 350/1100 stock.. is that intended also? any other changes that were made?
need serious help here. i've had this card for weeks and it's run flawlessly until last night when my comp all of a sudden started crashing and getting huge artifacts and blurryness (where i couldn't see the screen anymore). i restarted my comp and the problem persisted through bios! so it had to be the graphics card. i popped it my older 9700 pro and my computer ran fine again. i quess i need to rma the card, but i've never done such a thing before and i don't know where to start. should i call or email evga and what should i say? is there any chance of them not letting me rma the card? i don't want to pay any shipping because i already paid for the card to be shipped to my home along with the 325 price tag. i'd also be fine with evga giving me a 6800 gt if they are out of the LEs. thanks for any help.
Did you run it at 325/1100 (stock speeds) the whole time you had it?
In any case, I think paying shipping back on RMAs is how it works.
In any case, I think paying shipping back on RMAs is how it works.
Well, then you should call eVGA, tell them this and see what they say. I would guess they will offer you their "ship your card and give us $25" deal.
They may not give you anything if you tell the truth, because you were OCing your card.
Whether or not you tell the truth is something you'll have to live with.
but the temperature dropped at those speeds. that was honestly the only reason i had it at those speeds. i only knew this from reading from this forum. i thought the card running at lower temps would be healthier.
I'm not disagreeing with you, or saying I wouldn't have done the same, but it seems odd the temperature dropped at a higher speed?
Temperature rises with frequency on chips, so what your saying violates the laws of physics?
eVGA may buy it, but they may say you voided your warranty by running your card out of spec. The people on these forums do lots of things that void their warranties, myself included.
The key point here is that some of us either don't RMA at all when we void our warranties, or at worst tell the company what we did when trying to RMA.
The thieves are the ones who void their warranties and lie to RMA. In your case that would be omitting the fact that you ran the core almost 10% above spec.
Your only decision is whether $325 is worth stealing from eVGA to you; whether your honor can be bought for $325.
Good luck with it. If $325 is a lot of money to you, it's a hard decision not to steal it from a big company you perceive as having plenty.
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