Edmunds 2005 Full-Size Sedan Comparison Test

[NFS4]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Dr...Comparos/articleId=105147/pageId=63175

 

[Chadder007]

Dang!! A Toyota Avalon is nearly 40,000??? WTF?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

That's kind of a funny comparison test, but I guess there are a LOT of baby boomers out there.

SPOILER: The Buick didn't win!

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Dang!! A Toyota Avalon is nearly 40,000??? WTF?

Base, well equipped at 27k.

I'd say the conclusions are fair. Buick sucks, period, and the five hundred is profoundly underpowered for a full size sedan.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Dang!! A Toyota Avalon is nearly 40,000??? WTF?

The new Avalon is *very* nice, but when fully loaded - hello sticker shock!

 

[RagingBITCH]

The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

 

[Rallispec]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Dang!! A Toyota Avalon is nearly 40,000??? WTF?

Base, well equipped at 27k.

I'd say the conclusions are fair. Buick sucks, period, and the five hundred is profoundly underpowered for a full size sedan.

agreed, however with the AWD and the CVT, the five hundred really isnt that bad as long as you go into it not expecting a sports car.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Dang!! A Toyota Avalon is nearly 40,000??? WTF?

A high level of amenities is expected when you run up a bill of almost $38,000. We adjust for price disparities in our scoring, but it's easy to look at our loaded-up Avalon Limited and think, "No wonder it won." So we compared an unoptioned XLS model ($31,340) feature for feature, and guess what? It still comes with seven of the 10 items we consider important for a full-size sedan and would also have won this test by a wide margin.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

lol
are you kidding?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

lol
are you kidding?

I hope so.

Unlike a lot of barebones cars the Avalon's XL with nothing in it is still a nice, well equipped car. It's got the basic power features, alloy wheels, four wheel ABS, airbags out the whazoo, etc. This, plus a 280 horsepower engine, Toyota's far superior reliability/resale, and 23/31 EPA.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

lol
are you kidding?

I hope so.

Unlike a lot of barebones cars the Avalon's XL with nothing in it is still a nice, well equipped car. It's got the basic power features, alloy wheels, four wheel ABS, airbags out the whazoo, etc. This, plus a 280 horsepower engine, Toyota's far superior reliability/resale, and 23/31 EPA.

No I'm not kidding. The Crown Vic with it's superior reliability, modular 4.6, and the reputation for being a police cruiser makes it the best car ever. I make my whole family drive them too, because I'm too stubborn to consider other cars. Crown Vic ya heard?

 

[JDub02]

funny that they only got the V6 in the Chrysler, but a Hemi would have come out under the price of the Avalon they used.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

lol
are you kidding?

I hope so.

Unlike a lot of barebones cars the Avalon's XL with nothing in it is still a nice, well equipped car. It's got the basic power features, alloy wheels, four wheel ABS, airbags out the whazoo, etc. This, plus a 280 horsepower engine, Toyota's far superior reliability/resale, and 23/31 EPA.

No I'm not kidding. The Crown Vic with it's superior reliability, modular 4.6, and the reputation for being a police cruiser makes it the best car ever. I make my whole family drive them too, because I'm too stubborn to consider other cars. Crown Vic ya heard?

Stop being so ornery!

 

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Originally posted by: JDub02
funny that they only got the V6 in the Chrysler, but a Hemi would have come out under the price of the Avalon they used.

Maybe not.. base invoice price on a Hemi 300 is $30,626 (MSRP $33,095). That's with no options, and the Avalon they used was $31,340.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

No I'm not kidding. The Crown Vic with it's superior reliability, modular 4.6, and the reputation for being a police cruiser makes it the best car ever. I make my whole family drive them too, because I'm too stubborn to consider other cars. Crown Vic ya heard?

LOL at the idea Crown Vic has superior reliability to an Avalon. Tell that to your mechanic and see how long he can keep a straight face. If your "Best Car Ever" is a Crown Vic, I assume your "Best Beer Ever" is Bud Light, and your "Best Clothing Designer Ever" is Mr. Dockers.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

No I'm not kidding. The Crown Vic with it's superior reliability, modular 4.6, and the reputation for being a police cruiser makes it the best car ever. I make my whole family drive them too, because I'm too stubborn to consider other cars. Crown Vic ya heard?

LOL at the idea Crown Vic has superior reliability to an Avalon. Tell that to your mechanic and see how long he can keep a straight face. If your "Best Car Ever" is a Crown Vic, I assume your "Best Beer Ever" is Bud Light, and your "Best Clothing Designer Ever" is Mr. Dockers.

Nice

 

[desy]

Actually was it MSN or Edmunds puts it in the top 10 vehicles to own for its class?
Because of what she says, its why every cop car and cab out there is a Vic

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

No I'm not kidding. The Crown Vic with it's superior reliability, modular 4.6, and the reputation for being a police cruiser makes it the best car ever. I make my whole family drive them too, because I'm too stubborn to consider other cars. Crown Vic ya heard?

LOL at the idea Crown Vic has superior reliability to an Avalon. Tell that to your mechanic and see how long he can keep a straight face. If your "Best Car Ever" is a Crown Vic, I assume your "Best Beer Ever" is Bud Light, and your "Best Clothing Designer Ever" is Mr. Dockers.

I don't need a mechanic, because the Crown Vic is the most reliable car ever. What part of that do you not understand? No broken parts, no need for a mechanic. Capeesh? And Dockers sucks, I only wear Dickies with my suspenders and my cane.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: desy
Actually was it MSN or Edmunds puts it in the top 10 vehicles to own for its class?
Because of what she says, its why every cop car and cab out there is a Vic

The reason it's used so often as a police car is that it's the only reasonably-priced American full-size car that has continuously had RWD and a V-8 over the years. Large fleets, like police departments and cab companies, are so invested in Ford parts, and experienced in working on them, that it makes sense for them to stick with the Vic.

BTW, I think Crown Vics are fine - they're inexpensive, reasonably reliable, and perform respectably - but they're certainly nothing special.

 

[Pepsi90919]

the pontiac bonneville was not tested.

 

[desy]

"For example, in calendar 2003 Power said the Mercury Grand Maquis, Buick LeSabre, and Ford Crown Victoria ranked as the top full-size cars in long-term dependability after three years. "

So according to JD powers its more than that

Best bang for buck, including reliability of a LARGE car

 

[mb]

Around here, a lot of cop cars are now Chevy Impalas.

 

[Kenazo]

I like the 300. It looks awesome. Now to wait a few years for them to come down in price....

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: supafly
Around here, a lot of cop cars are now Chevy Impalas.

They were going to those around here....and then to the Dodge Intrepids and now are going back to the Ford Vic again. Those have been the best cars for their jobs, the police usually hate the intrepids here.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
The Crown Vic would mop the floor with all of them.

lol
are you kidding?

I hope so.

Unlike a lot of barebones cars the Avalon's XL with nothing in it is still a nice, well equipped car. It's got the basic power features, alloy wheels, four wheel ABS, airbags out the whazoo, etc. This, plus a 280 horsepower engine, Toyota's far superior reliability/resale, and 23/31 EPA.

yeah, but it seems to be such a grandpa car