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So if Jenner knew everyone was infected already, if that's what he whispered to Rick, why did he bother testing them all when they first came in?
 
HardcoreRobot said:
Glad to see the horde show up, exactly what I was predicting for the finale. Now lets just see if it flushes them out of the farm.
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Yeah true, this is one case where it was pretty predictable story development...

Its too bad they rehashed the same thing from Season 1 - safe sanctuary. where their 1st camp suddenly got mobbed by the horde.

So now they are going to travel the roads again after escaping and then stop at a traffic jam and carl will get lost and for first half of season 3 it will be Darryl calling "Carl" in the woods.

Hmm doesnt sounds as nice as a three syllable name like Sophia. Perhaps they will pick up a mother and daughter on the road and the daughter is name Monica and she ends up lost on the woods
 
corwin said:
So if Jenner knew everyone was infected already, if that's what he whispered to Rick, why did he bother testing them all when they first came in?
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Probably just to confirm his conclusion. I would do the same. Maybe Ricks group was a glimmer of hope that maybe some people out there are not already infected, and then when his test proved it false thats what finally triggered him to activate the self destruct along with everyone in the building

Hey that makes alot of sense actually
 
ViviTheMage said:
I was with Shane on killing Randell, needed to be done. Shane had horrible people skills, and as it was said by 1-2 cast members he is right in his methods, he needs to be more political to the group though, which he never could grasp.
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It did not help that, for a while, Shane was the undisputed Alpha Male of the group (with all the benefits that went with it), which all changed when Rick showed up.

That probably changed Shane to some extent and it seemed like Rick could never really get through to "new" Shane like he thought he could to "old" Shane.

MotionMan
 
lozina said:
robably just to confirm his conclusion. I would do the same. Maybe Ricks group was a glimmer of hope that maybe some people out there are not already infected, and then when his test proved it false thats what finally triggered him to activate the self destruct along with everyone in the building

Hey that makes alot of sense actually
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Good point, that does make some sense...though he didn't activate the self destruct, it was the system running out of gas that did it, could be why he decided not to leave though.
 
corwin said:
Good point, that does make some sense...though he didn't activate the self destruct, it was the system running out of gas that did it, could be why he decided not to leave though.
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Oh right, damn my memory sucks. But he did initially lock everyone inside right? I thought he was going to kill everyone with the self destruct not allowing anyone to leave, then finally Rick talked him into opening the door and leaving people to choose to leave or die.
 
Ajay said:
I think they are all infected, so the virus became airborne at some point. That's the only way the infection rate could be so high. There are plenty holes (Shane turns into a zombie in seconds, the zombie kid from the other group is ambulatory with a broken neck?!). But there have been enough interesting episodes to keep me watching, and the season finale could be very good.
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They sorta explain that the virus turns people at different rates of speed. Some turn within minutes, others take hours. And why wouldn't the kid with the broken neck be ambulatory after turning? He's dead. Broken neck's not gonna matter.

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I like that they left Shane's character alive as long as they did. I started reading the books after the first season ended and was really surprised to see how quickly they killed him off. His character being left alive longer in the show really gave the show an interesting dynamic. I had a feeling Shane was next to go because the story is supposed to be mainly about Rick, and Shane was really starting to detract from that. I didn't have a problem with that though, I didn't always agree with what Shane did, but I respected that he was a survivor. In the last episode, when Lori apologized to Shane, I knew one of two things would happen. Shane would live, and a shit storm would be stirred up as he finally snapped over Lori, or he'd die by Rick's hand. I figured on the latter. I like how he killed him, but then Carl truly killed him (which is in line with the books). Carl's a little shit though, drawing down on his Dad like that. I told my gf when he walked up, "Watch this little shit Carl, he'll draw his gun on his Dad.".

I think Rick is going to become more like Shane now, and let go of some of his morals. They allude to that with him not returning Darryl's gun. Something he would have done earlier in the show.
 
I'm happy that Shane is dead, because I was tired of the internal power struggle crap. Now maybe they can get some actual external antagonists, like zombies and malicious groups of survivors.

I believe Carl pointed the gun at Rick first because he thought they had been attacked and maybe his father was bitten. Or he just thought his dad killed Shane for no reason.
 
lozina said:
Oh right, damn my memory sucks. But he did initially lock everyone inside right? I thought he was going to kill everyone with the self destruct not allowing anyone to leave, then finally Rick talked him into opening the door and leaving people to choose to leave or die.
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Yeah he was but he let them try to get out, don't think he really thought they would make it since the outer doors couldn't be opened...luckily somebody had a grenade to blow the bullet proof windows out
 
corwin said:
Yeah he was but he let them try to get out, don't think he really thought they would make it since the outer doors couldn't be opened...luckily somebody had a grenade to blow the bullet proof windows out
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Yeah I remember that now... that's why I keep a grenade with me on my travels as well. That and a roll of duct tape.
 
joshsquall said:
I'm happy that Shane is dead, because I was tired of the internal power struggle crap. Now maybe they can get some actual external antagonists, like zombies and malicious groups of survivors.

I believe Carl pointed the gun at Rick first because he thought they had been attacked and maybe his father was bitten. Or he just thought his dad killed Shane for no reason.
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I think that it was becuase Shane was the better father figure to Carl (which was his whole rant), which is why Carl pulled it on Rick...solidifying that Shane was right, Shane would be a better father in this life they live now...but Carl knew he couldn't kill Rick, and it turned into shooting Shane, the zombie.
 
Look at how much activity has increased in this thread in the last couple of weeks.

Show was on life support in the first half of the season. My friend said it died and has now come back as a walker.
 
TheAdvocate said:
Look at how much activity has increased in this thread in the last couple of weeks.

Show was on life support in the first half of the season. My friend said it died and has now come back as a walker.
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It is at the turning point that every TV show goes through at Season 2 or 3...something big happened (Shane's death, Dale's, zombies about to rush the stronghold). We'll see if it can survive after this.
 
MisterJackson said:
They sorta explain that the virus turns people at different rates of speed. Some turn within minutes, others take hours. And why wouldn't the kid with the broken neck be ambulatory after turning? He's dead. Broken neck's not gonna matter.

POSSIBLE SPOILER BELOW:

I like that they left Shane's character alive as long as they did. I started reading the books after the first season ended and was really surprised to see how quickly they killed him off. His character being left alive longer in the show really gave the show an interesting dynamic. I had a feeling Shane was next to go because the story is supposed to be mainly about Rick, and Shane was really starting to detract from that. I didn't have a problem with that though, I didn't always agree with what Shane did, but I respected that he was a survivor. In the last episode, when Lori apologized to Shane, I knew one of two things would happen. Shane would live, and a shit storm would be stirred up as he finally snapped over Lori, or he'd die by Rick's hand. I figured on the latter. I like how he killed him, but then Carl truly killed him (which is in line with the books). Carl's a little shit though, drawing down on his Dad like that. I told my gf when he walked up, "Watch this little shit Carl, he'll draw his gun on his Dad.".

I think Rick is going to become more like Shane now, and let go of some of his morals. They allude to that with him not returning Darryl's gun. Something he would have done earlier in the show.
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A coworker and I were just talking about that. He was saying the same thing and I agree. I think these events are going to change his attitude and morals some. I think he is going to realize that Shane was right in a lot of ways.
 
MisterJackson said:
They sorta explain that the virus turns people at different rates of speed. Some turn within minutes, others take hours. And why wouldn't the kid with the broken neck be ambulatory after turning? He's dead. Broken neck's not gonna matter.
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Well, when you kill someone by breaking their neck - they die because their spinal cord is severed. No nerve impulses get past the brain stem, basically, so no breathing, no heart beat and definitely no walking. But, generally this group of writers are pretty zombie-like when it comes to details like this anyway - so meh :\
 
i just want to thank all of the pieces of shit who spoiled this past weeks episode by telling us months ago that they are already infected and it comes about once they die anyways, as well as rick killing shane (i think, they may have said it was carl in the comic who killed him, don't remember 100%), because that is what happens in the comics.
 
Ajay said:
Well, when you kill someone by breaking their neck - they die because their spinal cord is severed. No nerve impulses get past the brain stem, basically, so no breathing, no heart beat and definitely no walking. But, generally this group of writers are pretty zombie-like when it comes to details like this anyway - so meh :\
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Well there was the one zombie in a tree when they guy hanged himself after getting bite so I guess it doesn't work like that now.
 
Ajay said:
Well, when you kill someone by breaking their neck - they die because their spinal cord is severed. No nerve impulses get past the brain stem, basically, so no breathing, no heart beat and definitely no walking. But, generally this group of writers are pretty zombie-like when it comes to details like this anyway - so meh :\
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The infection reactivates the brain stem and some higher functions after brain death, theoretically it's working around or somehow healing tissues damaged by oxygen deprivation ...is it really that much of a stretch to think it could be using a similar process to reintegrate mechanically damaged tissue?
 
Merithynos said:
The infection reactivates the brain stem and some higher functions after brain death, theoretically it's working around or somehow healing tissues damaged by oxygen deprivation ...is it really that much of a stretch to think it could be using a similar process to reintegrate mechanically damaged tissue?
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The spine is broken and, from what I saw of zombie-Randell, displaced. The virus would either have to set the bone or somehow grow new tissue at a ridiculous rate that could perfectly interface with the broken end. Yeah, it's kind of a stretch...
 
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