Edit:may have found a car, what do you think?

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sniperruff

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with the GM's "employee" discount applying to everyone, i'd check out the pontiac vibe GT. probably won't have the resale as a matrix, but with a couple thousands off i think it'd be a great buy.
 

coolred

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The vibe is interesting, still nto sure how I feel about the looks. I don't like the wagon or hatchback cars that look like that very much. But looks aren't the most important factor, so i will look at it more closely.
 

coolred

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How many manufacturers warranties don't extend to a second buyer? I would actually prefer to go used rather then buying new, but wouldn't mind some warranty for peace of mind.


I looked at the vibe, its interesting, although with the seats up it doesn't offer much more cargo room over say a mazda6 hatcback(also with the seats up). Plus while the look is growing on me, it still looks weird to me.

I like the new(2002+) altimas, but that wouldn't be much of an imporvment if any over my current maxima. I actually like the size of the trunk in the max, its not huge. But it can easily carry a stroller, some bags of cloths(for an out of town trip) and have room to spare. Its the back seat that has me worried. We currently have 1 car seat in the middle of the back seat. One of us occasionally rides back thier with my son. Which isn't all that bad, but on the occasions when I have had the car seat myself and someone else back there, it is really cramped. The altima's specs have it only slightly smaller the my max. The avalon is a little bigger. The Mazda6 is actually smaller. The vibe is smaller.

The CRV is actually about the same, more shoulder room, less hip room. But it does offer us the ability to sit in the front passenger seat and still be able to get into the back easily. So thats kinda a plus.


So basically while it would be nice to have, I am not 100% sure we actually need the extra cargo space as much as we would prefer for back seat room. Or in the case of some vehicles like the CRV, the ability to go from front to back without getting out of the vehicle.
 

jaedaliu

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you "need" a large car. I don't know who's going to be taking the kids to school, but with the kids being about 5 years apart, they're never going to attend the same school (unless you have a private school that goes k-12) You need to think about the future carpools (which might not happen for 6 years when your older kid gets to junior high, or might be happening now if the kid's going to preschool.) Having the extra seating prevents you from being automatically excluded from carpools that have 5 kids, each parent driving 2 trips a week.

so, minivan would be great. Quest is probably the only minivan that looks different these days. If you refuse to get a minivan, i'd suggest looking at SUVs with a 3rd row of seating. I'd recommend one, but really, almost all full sized SUV's have a 3rd row seat as an option. (even the toyota highlander does, and that's built on a camry platform)

as a warning though, I went on a fishing trip with some friends, and we rented an escalade for the 6 of us. The last row of seats was designed for children only. So, if you see yourself carting everyone around after you get the big car, you might want to consider a minivan for the comfort of your friends.
 

coolred

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No, like I said, I don't need the extra seats. Seating for 5 is plenty, I just want more room in the back seat, so if we have to have 3 people back there, they will be comfortable on a trip. Granted most of the time it will just be 2 kids back there, but on occasion an adult may need to be back there with them, especially on long trips, hence the need for more room, so we can be comfortable.


Unfortuntely it seems that many cars(SUV's vans whatever)where redesigned for the 2005 model year. So I either have to buy a new one or an older style. I would prefer to buy used since it will be cheaper, or I can get more car for the money. But with the redesigns, I may not be getting more car for the money buying used.
 

jaedaliu

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Maxima's back seat is about as wide as you're going to get in a japanese import sedan. If you still want a sedan, I'm pretty sure you'll have to go with a Lincoln or a Buick or some other oversized American sedan.
 

coolred

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Well since we probablly can't get a sedan with a bigger back seat, we are narrowing it down to probablly SUV's or vans with easy access to the back seats without leaving the vehicle.
 

coolred

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Does tire size affect mileage and the speedometer readings? Mean say the vehicle is supposed to have 15 inch tires, and say I upgrade to 17's, will that throw off my speedo by a reasonable ammount, or my mileage reading?
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: coolred
Does tire size affect mileage and the speedometer readings? Mean say the vehicle is supposed to have 15 inch tires, and say I upgrade to 17's, will that throw off my speedo by a reasonable ammount, or my mileage reading?

Doesn't matter as long as the tires' sidewall heigh was reduced proportionally. I went from 14" wheels to 17" wheels on my Honda and the speedo was off by about 1 mph tops.
 

coolred

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Well I just ran my credit reports from all 3 big agencies. Got a 745 from TU, a 733 for experian and for some reason a 703 from equifax. I think the low equifax is from a deliquent account I had from like 3 years ago. It was for a student loan, that had gotten lost in the mail. So I was 30 days late on a payment. But still i am well above the 620 subprime borrow score. So that should aulify me for the 3.9-4.9% APR honda offers on its CPO vehicles.
 

NutBucket

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That you would qualify for the special APR. I have a similar credit score and got a similar APR on a new car.
 

coolred

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Yeah, I figured that was good enough, now the only problem I see is that I plan to start a new job on Monday. I may go look at and test drive this car tomorrow. If I qualify for thier financing, then I may get it. I think i stand a better chance of getting thier financing tomorrow, since technically I am still employed with my current employeer, then I do at get financing from any place else after just starting a new job.
 

NutBucket

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Hmm..your job is a BIG part of financing. I've had my current job for 5 years. I think that helped me a lot.
 

coolred

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I have also had my current job for 5 years. I am technically still employeed there, through tomorrow. So fi I go tomorrow, I can still use that info. After that, I will have to use my new job, which like you said, could be a problem. I need a new car so even if I don't get this one, I need to find a way to get financed through somebody at some point in time in the near future. I suppose maybe I should have gotten prequalified by now already. But I didn't actually plan to purchase for a few more week, assuming my current car hold sup that long.
 

NutBucket

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Well, I suppose it would be horrible of you to not mention you're planning on changing jobs;)
 

coolred

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Yeah I know, but actually I just realized I could get a brand new '05 for only about 600 more then I would be paying for this '04. The '04 does get a longer powertrain warranty since its certified, but the '05 has several new standard features, which make it the better bet. So I suppose I will end up waiting, and just hoping I can get financing somewhere.
 

thomsbrain

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hmm... i think for your needs, the CRV isn't the right vehicle and here's why: passenger space should actually be more limited than in the maxima. remember, the CRV is just a civic on stilts, so there's not going to be tons of room to manuver baby seats or whatever. you can fit everyone in there, of course, but if you complaint with the maxima is that it's not big enough, the CRV is a step in the wrong direction. also, the cargo area is short in all these mini-SUV's. you can fit a lot in if you stack stuff up, but you don't want to crush your (probably soft) baby bags by piling crap on top of them, and you don't want to risk having stuff fall on your kid's heads...

i think the minivan is a much better line of thinking in your case. the sienna and odessey seem to be the class leaders and you can find a used odessey in your price range. it will have more miles, but they run forever.
 

thomsbrain

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oh yeah, a volvo station wagon is pretty much the ultimate family car. would probably be more fun to drive than a minivan, and reliability is on par with toyota/honda, with safety probably better than both. this was my family's car when i was growing up and it had enough room to take the 4 of us and our family dog camping for 2 weeks.
 

coolred

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Well first off according to the specs, the rear shoulder and hip room on the CRV isn't that much less then the maxima. But the goo part of the CRV is that we(my fiancee and I) can both ride up front, and if we need to get to the back for some reason, we can fold up that little table between the 2 front seats and walk back to the second or third row. Not safe in a moving vehicle I know, but you do what you gotta do when you have a screaming kid and no where to pull over. That was my other reason for wanting a minivan and several of them also have the ability to allow you to easily go from front to back without leaving the vehicle. Its not so much cargo space or or even seating space, as long as I can get back to the kids when I need to, then I don't have to actually have the room to sit back there with them. At least thats my thinking.
 

coolred

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Well I just got approved by both capital one and eloan, capital one gave me a 6.35% APR, not sure on Eloan yet, got a acceptance email, but waiting on a call for the rate numbers. I will take them with me and see if the dealer can beat it, if not I can just use them, whichever is cheaper.


So how does cars direct work. Can yo buy from them, or are they just listing quotes from local dealers? DO I print the quote and take it to a dealer and have them match it.