<< how does it look cosmetically? can you tell that the mobo is FUBAR? >>
The top side looks fine. The bottom side is charred as you can see in the pic. I tried it just to see if it survived and sure enough it was dead as stone.
<< how does it look cosmetically? can you tell that the mobo is FUBAR? >>
The top side looks fine. The bottom side is charred as you can see in the pic. I tried it just to see if it survived and sure enough it was dead as stone.
Lol. I am considering burning mine or RMAing. Burning sounds more fun but RMAing sounds a little more reasonable. But burning still might win...
Hey jerkboy....
You could of rma'd it...It may have just been bad...
But since I seem to have bought 5 of them (all early boards) and installed them with various 1.4's 1.33 and 1.2 tbirds and various oses, never had to do a bios flash, I have come to a conclusion.
Also I have read many of your previous posts, and have a 1.4tbird and ecs of my own that has ran flawlessly for over 2 months.
I conclude it is most likely due to your incompetence and lack of any common sense...You obviously didn't read many of those post of problems with the ecs's that you stated earlier....Many were resolved...
cmos data loss...a whole batch of boards with faulty lithium cmos batteries...a 3 dollar fix genius!!!!
memory errors...could have been related to generic ddr...common issue in many of the earlier post
You will notice that a lot of the ecs post have slowed since a month ago. It isn't cause they are not selling it is because all the newbie and morons stopped buying them....
You could of rma'd it...It may have just been bad...
But since I seem to have bought 5 of them (all early boards) and installed them with various 1.4's 1.33 and 1.2 tbirds and various oses, never had to do a bios flash, I have come to a conclusion.
Also I have read many of your previous posts, and have a 1.4tbird and ecs of my own that has ran flawlessly for over 2 months.
I conclude it is most likely due to your incompetence and lack of any common sense...You obviously didn't read many of those post of problems with the ecs's that you stated earlier....Many were resolved...
cmos data loss...a whole batch of boards with faulty lithium cmos batteries...a 3 dollar fix genius!!!!
memory errors...could have been related to generic ddr...common issue in many of the earlier post
You will notice that a lot of the ecs post have slowed since a month ago. It isn't cause they are not selling it is because all the newbie and morons stopped buying them....
<< I am happy for all of you who have a K7S5a running and had it running for more then a month, you may be home free. Mine ran for about 4 weeks before becoming unstable and finally refusing to post. I now have a Shuttle AK31 V3.1 running with the same hardware (except add a $10.00 NIC from Frys) and the SAME Windows installation. It took me 2hrs to install and get online, not a single glitch (hardware induced*) yet. I may a some point in time gamble on another ECS board, but not real soon. [...]
The whole point of this is that since the only thing that has changed from a system which would not post to a appearentlly completely stable system is the mobo. THERE ARE BAD ECS boards out there. You could not have paid me to take the lemon that was microwaved, I only hope he did not damage the microwave doing it. I took mine back to Frys for in house credit. >>
There are also bad shuttle AK31a's out there.
AK31A and K7S5A stats
For an update, search this forum for "life/death". Welcome to the world of statistics. It's pretty easy to say that 1 in 4 people dies of cancer; it's tough to be in that 25%.
In looking for those microwave pics, I took a tour of JerBoy's <<site androgyne>> ... couldn't help but notice the chipped Athlon, and the comment "it could happen to anyone." I beg to differ.
Just the post I was referring to above....Makes you wonder if there was a legite problem with the board, or he had problems and just decided to jump on the sis bashing wagon and blame someone for his incompetence...
<< Just the post I was referring to above....Makes you wonder if there was a legite problem with the board, or he had problems and just decided to jump on the sis bashing wagon and blame someone for his incompetence... >>
Duvie, I tried getting help everywhere, took it to an independent shop to get their opinion and everything. Nobody could figure it out and I had the board exchanged once.
Got a Gigabyte board, kept everything else exactly the same and voila!. I'm a happy camper.
Waste of a good board. It worked perfectly fine for me. Maybe you could have sold it or something.
Count me as one of those whose ECS MB was defective. Not only that, it screwed up in
unusual ways. (Blue screens, corrupted file copies, CMOS memory loss, etc). Before when I had a bad MB, it just wouldn't boot. This POS corrupts data,
as confirmed by Memtest86.
I screwed around with it for 2 months before I saw the link to Mr. Athlons article at Ocworkbench.
I wonder how many people that are praising the K7S5A have tried Memtest86 on their own machines? :frown:
It would make an interesting poll.
unusual ways. (Blue screens, corrupted file copies, CMOS memory loss, etc). Before when I had a bad MB, it just wouldn't boot. This POS corrupts data,
as confirmed by Memtest86.
I screwed around with it for 2 months before I saw the link to Mr. Athlons article at Ocworkbench.
I wonder how many people that are praising the K7S5A have tried Memtest86 on their own machines? :frown:
It would make an interesting poll.
<< Count me as one of those whose ECS MB was defective. Not only that, it screwed up in
unusual ways. (Blue screens, corrupted file copies, CMOS memory loss, etc). Before when I had a bad MB, it just wouldn't boot. This POS corrupts data,
as confirmed by Memtest86.
I screwed around with it for 2 months before I saw the link to Mr. Athlons article at Ocworkbench.
I wonder how many people that are praising the K7S5A have tried Memtest86 on their own machines? :frown:
It would make an interesting poll. >>
maybe you got a dud board How many times have you heard this phrase while dealing with ECS K7S5A problems?
Yup, sure did! Nothing a little solder and a resistor won't fix.
I like your idea of nuking it.
Took too long to figure out the problem, can't RMA it.
I like your idea of nuking it.
Took too long to figure out the problem, can't RMA it.
<< Yup, sure did! Nothing a little solder and a resistor won't fix.
I like your idea of nuking it.
Took too long to figure out the problem, can't RMA it. >>
RMA, RMA, RMA and RMA.. $6.50 each time.. Your total comes to $26 in shipping and waste of personal time going back and forth to post office.
wow you found like 5 other ppl with same problem...wow
You think ppl who don't have problems post topics on it, genius???? C'mon pull the head out....
This is still just a handful of ppl with issues...Now lets look at these ppl and run through their experience and system specs....Do you think everbody knows how to diagnos problems and tried everything??? I bet a high percentage of those are user error and the rest are legit rma's.
Now I will be the first to agree that ecs has some questionable quality control that may lead to 3-5 percent max on the rma rate...
You think ppl who don't have problems post topics on it, genius???? C'mon pull the head out....
This is still just a handful of ppl with issues...Now lets look at these ppl and run through their experience and system specs....Do you think everbody knows how to diagnos problems and tried everything??? I bet a high percentage of those are user error and the rest are legit rma's.
Now I will be the first to agree that ecs has some questionable quality control that may lead to 3-5 percent max on the rma rate...
dAv,
< (Blue screens, corrupted file copies, CMOS memory loss, etc). >
Cmos memory loss is a related to bad cmos batteries on the board...I can see you actually don't read many of the post on this board....
I haven't seen any BSOD and I have it for 2 moths plus and with the dreaded 1.4ghz tbird...ohhhhh
All my burns I run verify data which will find corrupted data and 2 dozen burns later no problems
What were your system specs...
Did you use generic ddr-ram??? What was the power supply voltages at 3.3 and 5v???
< Yup, sure did! Nothing a little solder and a resistor won't fix. >
I see you read the first page of mrathlon's post at ocworkbench...you notice how nmnay times he has posted in the end??? I don't think the theory panned out well...Many have solved their issues
I think the smart ones do!!!
< (Blue screens, corrupted file copies, CMOS memory loss, etc). >
Cmos memory loss is a related to bad cmos batteries on the board...I can see you actually don't read many of the post on this board....
I haven't seen any BSOD and I have it for 2 moths plus and with the dreaded 1.4ghz tbird...ohhhhh
All my burns I run verify data which will find corrupted data and 2 dozen burns later no problems
What were your system specs...
Did you use generic ddr-ram??? What was the power supply voltages at 3.3 and 5v???
< Yup, sure did! Nothing a little solder and a resistor won't fix. >
I see you read the first page of mrathlon's post at ocworkbench...you notice how nmnay times he has posted in the end??? I don't think the theory panned out well...Many have solved their issues
I think the smart ones do!!!
After installing a new AMD approved power supply and a stick of Samsung DDR(256meg), my Tbird 1000 is cranking along just dandy at a 133fsb for a 1333 speed(locked at 10x). 
I'm guessing that most people who buy this, since it is a cheap board, are sticking in cheap sub-300 watt power supplies and cheap generic RAM. Any board is going to be prone to problems under such circumstances. Cheap RAM is a big contributor to the problems that people are complaining about with this board, so I would not be surprised if just replacing your generic RAM with a stick of Crucial/Corsair/Micron RAM would fix your problems.
Also, especially if you are new to building your own system, you can expect to face some unforseen difficulties with any board. Usually, if you just check and double check your connections and settings, AND make sure you are using the latest BIOS, then you can get your system working wonderfully.
I personally am using the K7S5A with the "dreaded" 1.4Ghz Thunderbird, and I did not experience a single glitch swapping it in to my system, and the 1.7Ghz P4 systems I use at work can't hold a candle to it.
Also, especially if you are new to building your own system, you can expect to face some unforseen difficulties with any board. Usually, if you just check and double check your connections and settings, AND make sure you are using the latest BIOS, then you can get your system working wonderfully.
I personally am using the K7S5A with the "dreaded" 1.4Ghz Thunderbird, and I did not experience a single glitch swapping it in to my system, and the 1.7Ghz P4 systems I use at work can't hold a candle to it.
<< I am right with you brazen...1.4 here and not a hitch in the giddy up... >>
All I can think of is you got the lucky board.
The K7S5A was the only board on 4 different machines to fail memtest.
AMD does NOT approve of this board for any chip other than XP+ (I bought mine before XP+ was available)
If the bad CMOS battery on a new board was the only problem, I would not complain
Specs on my machine:
Enlight 7237
Enhance 350w PS
Tbird 1400 - retail
Crucial 256 DDR
ATI Radeon AIW
Maxtor 20G 7200
WinXP Pro
AMD does NOT approve of this board for any chip other than XP+ (I bought mine before XP+ was available)
If the bad CMOS battery on a new board was the only problem, I would not complain
Specs on my machine:
Enlight 7237
Enhance 350w PS
Tbird 1400 - retail
Crucial 256 DDR
ATI Radeon AIW
Maxtor 20G 7200
WinXP Pro
Go Shuttle AK31 3.1! Best bang for the buck that I've seen in a while (S2EE BIOS). Able and stable with Athlon XP 1800+, XP Home, Leadtek GF2 GTS (Det 23.11), 512K 2100 DDR, Maxtor D740x 60GB, Game Theater XP, LiteOn 24x burner, Pioneer 104s DVD, Kingston 10/100 NIC....
Sorry.... Let me brag a little, 'cause I built it in 3hrs and it's only hiccoughed once (when I tried to do the latest 4in1). Santa Claus been vewy, vewy good to me.
I've only had one ECS board and that was 3 years (or so) ago. Don't remember the model (I think I had a Celeron on it), but I got rid of it quick. With the rapid proliferation of mobos, no one has bragging rights for very long anyway. It's my position that you must make tradeoffs between features needed/wanted, performance, stability, support and price. Even then it's a crapshoot, because there will be variances between boards of the same model, QC issues, driver issues, etc, etc.
Beats a slide rule, though.
Actually jerboy I have been lucky with 5 of them so far...My buddy does this for a living (somewhat, times ain't good) and has 10 of them under his belt
The board is picky I can grant that but I only buy quality components of sparkle power supplies and crucial memory...maybe that has something to do with it...
I have had rev 3's and he has mostly rev 4's....
The board is picky I can grant that but I only buy quality components of sparkle power supplies and crucial memory...maybe that has something to do with it...
I have had rev 3's and he has mostly rev 4's....
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