Economy Jobs thread:10-25-07 Intel opens new Arizona 45 Nanometer plant, employs 1000

[techs]

Some corporations need to have some manufacturing in the U.S. so the public doesn't get on their case when the government buys their products. And they get political clout in the U.S. when they manufacture here.
Wonder why toyota makes cars in the U.S. when they could make them cheaper overseas?
Same reason.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting that Intel built a new plant here instead of abroad.

I'm glad to see.

Anyone know why they did this?

Did American wages drop low enough?

10-25-2007 Intel opening new chip plant in Arizona

In the latest display of its manufacturing might, Intel Corp. is opening a new $3 billion factory in Arizona, widening its lead over rival Advanced Micro Devices Inc. in the industry's switch to a new chip-making technique.

The new facility in Chandler, Ariz., will be Intel's first plant dedicated to churning out microprocessors ? the brains of personal computers and servers ? whose parts measure an average of just 45 nanometers, or 45 billionths of a meter.

Intel's new 1-million-square-foot factory, with more than 1,000 workers, is so big more than 17 football fields could fit inside it.

Its products will go on sale Nov. 12.

But Intel is a corporation that makes excessive profits. That is not allowed under your solcialist utopia.

They should not have any profit to build a new plant and expand the workforce.

Actually if it wasn't for AMD this in fact would be the case.

Actually if it wasn't for the TAX breaks given to them they wouldn't have done it. Aren't you one of the ones always whining about corporate welfare? How much are those 1000 "new jobs" going to "cost" the tax payers of Arizona?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Eagle Keeper

But Intel is a corporation that makes excessive profits. That is not allowed under your socialist utopia.

They should not have any profit to build a new plant and expand the workforce.

Actually if it wasn't for AMID this in fact would be the case.

Actually if it wasn't for the TAX breaks given to them they wouldn't have done it.

Aren't you one of the ones always whining about corporate welfare?

How much are those 1000 "new jobs" going to "cost" the tax payers of Arizona?

I am not privy to this revelation of tax breaks.

Thanks for pointing out the travesty by your Corporate friends and the Republican Government they own.

How sweet it is for one of their own to out them. :shocked:

Thanks CAD :thumbsup:

 

[blackangst1]

Intel cut 10,500 jobs a year ago so this isnt shit.

And why is it when I posted about companies moving back to the US from overseas a couple months ago, you, Dave, bitched and moaned and said it doesnt matter in the overall scheme of things?

Oh thats right. Youre a partisan troll.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Intel cut 10,500 jobs a year ago so this isnt shit.

And why is it when I posted about companies moving back to the US from overseas a couple months ago, you, Dave, bitched and moaned and said it doesnt matter in the overall scheme of things?

Oh thats right. Youre a partisan troll.

10,500 from the U.S.?

Well look even you are saying the numbers are a drop in the bucket "in the overall scheme of things".

Thanks for proving my points as well.

You righties are on a roll today for me. :thumbsup:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Eagle Keeper

But Intel is a corporation that makes excessive profits. That is not allowed under your socialist utopia.

They should not have any profit to build a new plant and expand the workforce.

Actually if it wasn't for AMID this in fact would be the case.

Actually if it wasn't for the TAX breaks given to them they wouldn't have done it.

Aren't you one of the ones always whining about corporate welfare?

How much are those 1000 "new jobs" going to "cost" the tax payers of Arizona?

I am not privy to this revelation of tax breaks.

Thanks for pointing out the travesty by your Corporate friends and the Republican Government they own.

How sweet it is for one of their own to out them. :shocked:

Thanks CAD :thumbsup:

:roll: The point is you don't actually look into what you post. You bleat about headlines that fit your agenda but don't care if the facts actually back up your post.

I would also like to point out that the Arizona tax incentive was a BI-PARTISAN effort so once again you take one little tidbit and make claims about it. It wasn't a "Republican Government" travesty.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: techs
Wonder why toyota makes cars in the U.S. when they could make them cheaper overseas?
Same reason.

the japanese manufacturing here started after reagan in 1980 reached a deal limiting the number of vehicles imported to 2.3 million. then the 1st bush admin and the clinton admin further pressured the japanese to include more US content in cars, clinton going so far as to threaten a 100% tariff on luxury cars.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: techs
Wonder why toyota makes cars in the U.S. when they could make them cheaper overseas?
Same reason.

the japanese manufacturing here started after reagan in 1980 reached a deal limiting the number of vehicles imported to 2.3 million. then the 1st bush admin and the clinton admin further pressured the japanese to include more US content in cars, clinton going so far as to threaten a 100% tariff on luxury cars.

Thanks for your illustrations that helped prove my point:thumbsup:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Eagle Keeper

But Intel is a corporation that makes excessive profits. That is not allowed under your socialist utopia.

They should not have any profit to build a new plant and expand the workforce.

Actually if it wasn't for AMID this in fact would be the case.

Actually if it wasn't for the TAX breaks given to them they wouldn't have done it.

Aren't you one of the ones always whining about corporate welfare?

How much are those 1000 "new jobs" going to "cost" the tax payers of Arizona?

I am not privy to this revelation of tax breaks.

Thanks for pointing out the travesty by your Corporate friends and the Republican Government they own.

How sweet it is for one of their own to out them. :shocked:

Thanks CAD :thumbsup:

:roll: The point is you don't actually look into what you post. You bleat about headlines that fit your agenda but don't care if the facts actually back up your post.

I would also like to point out that the Arizona tax incentive was a BI-PARTISAN effort so once again you take one little tidbit and make claims about it. It wasn't a "Republican Government" travesty.

4-6-2004 Arizona's tax cuts called unwise - Studies rap corporate, income breaks

Robbie Sherwood
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 6, 2004 12:00 AM

A host of corporate tax cuts proposed in the Arizona Legislature could cost more than $300 million but would do little to attract new business or create jobs, a trio of newly released studies says.

Lawmakers launched 27 measures this session to cut corporate taxes, according to an analysis by ASU economist David Wells. The handful that is still moving would drain more than $300 million from state coffers when lawmakers face a $300 million deficit.

The measures include:

? Senate Concurrent Resolution 1020. It would ask voters to repeal Arizona's property tax on business equipment, which could put an additional $90 million burden on the state budget for public-school funding. It passed the Senate and is moving through the House.

? House Bill 2270 and Senate Bill 1143. The bill would give corporations that sold mostly out of state a $50 million to $100 million tax break by allowing them to be taxed only on their sales and not payroll and property. A version has passed the House but has yet to get a Senate-floor debate.

? House Bill 2623. This corporate tax credit would allow businesses to donate up to 10 percent of their tax liability toward private- and parochial-school scholarships. Lawmakers have not included a cost estimate with the bill, but a similar program in Florida diverts $50 million a year from state coffers. The bill has passed the House and is in the Senate.

Steve Huffman, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said he does not buy into the studies because he has seen the positive effects of state tax policy firsthand.

"There's a difference between these sort of academic recommendations and the real world," said Huffman, R-Tucson. "They can say whatever they want, but there's no doubt that if you talk to anybody at Intel that they would not be here in Arizona if it were not for the foreign trade zones that we have here where they pay (a property tax ratio 20 percentage points lower) than every other business in Arizona pays. So, on its face, suggestions like that don't even hold water."

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Intel cut 10,500 jobs a year ago so this isnt shit.

And why is it when I posted about companies moving back to the US from overseas a couple months ago, you, Dave, bitched and moaned and said it doesnt matter in the overall scheme of things?

Oh thats right. Youre a partisan troll.

10,500 from the U.S.?

Well look even you are saying the numbers are a drop in the bucket "in the overall scheme of things".

Thanks for proving my points as well.

You righties are on a roll today for me. :thumbsup:

Your point? What point is that? You mean when you said

Interesting that Intel built a new plant here instead of abroad.

I'm glad to see.

?

Like I said, I posted an article several months ago showing that more and more tech jobs are coming back to the USA, and you had nothing but spit and venom and...well...your usual partisan trolling to say about it. Now youre happy about it? Why, coz it's YOUR post this time? You need meds.

Bad.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: techs
Some corporations need to have some manufacturing in the U.S. so the public doesn't get on their case when the government buys their products. And they get political clout in the U.S. when they manufacture here.
Wonder why toyota makes cars in the U.S. when they could make them cheaper overseas?
Same reason.

Are you kidding? They get all kinds of tax breaks to locate plants in states with no unions and low wages. With the dollar in the toilet they are paying with monopoly money and it is far cheaper to build cars here. Compare the wages of a japanese or german autoworker with that of an american working at one of these plants.