eBay question

[bmacd]

I won an ebay auction and got a winning "thank you and pay me" email.

In addition, he also sent me this:

"Dear b_macd,

hey you just won my auction. I am really sorry but with 10 hours left in the auction I took inventory and I was 1 phone short. I was unable to end this auction becasue you have to do that with more than 12 hours left. I am a very good seller and this was not intentional in any way. So please don't make a payment. I may have more of these phone's in the future but right now I simply don't. It was my mistake and I own up to it and I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you sincerely Steve Masted."

Since he appears to be able to get more phones in, I asked when he was going to ship it and let him know I was disappointed that not only was my bid a contract, but him having an auction was just as much of a contract. Here's how he replied:

"Dude did you read what I wrote below I made a mistake I miscounted I had no way of ending the auction or putting a note in there I didn?t realize it until it was too late?sorry you?ll find another one jeeez?.what do you want me to do magically produce a phone I don?t have????"

In case you didn?t read it try again
Macalegin Electronics

Steve Masted (Founder/Owner)
www.macaleginelectronics.com
sales@macaleginelectronics.com
619-251-1415


What do I do? Should I chance leaving negative feeback and hope he doesn't leave it for me? Should I keep bugging him asking when he's going to get this phone in?

-=bmacd=-

 

[imported_Mike]

I dunno the regular value of that phone...did you get a bargain? I would let it go

 

[imported_Mike]

Just reading through some of his feedback and he will give you a negative for sure...he sounds like a grade A douche

 

[CanOWorms]

Just let it go. People make mistakes. It seems that he was selling several of them, so maybe his story is true.

 

[czech09]

It's probably some 15 yr old Focker behind his mommy's computer. Leave him negative feedback and call it a day. Ebay has pissed me off as well lately it just gets worse and worse everyday...

-Lubomir

 

[Bacardi151]

that phone looks like a steal for the price you won it at. and he has an attitude problem so i think you should return him the favor....bug him, get him to get one or hold one for you when he does get one for that price you won. report this to ebay. (assuming i'm right about it being a bargain)

 

[czech09]

Originally posted by: CheapArse
Just reading through some of his feedback and he will give you a negative for sure...he sounds like a grade A douche

Totally agree on that one.

 

[Eli]

Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

 

[Bacardi151]

why tell him to let it go? i say report it to ebay and let ebay give the seller a warning. a seller once reported me when i failed to buy something i bidded on, and i have a strike...2 more to go and my acct will be shut down (i dunno if those strikes will go away after a certain period of time though....like a speeding ticket)

 

[Bacardi151]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

the only difference is that this is an auction - a contract - not an advertisement. at the very least the seller should offer a "raincheck". how much are these phones for ? maybe the seller is gonna lose out on selling it to the buyer for the ending bidding price so he's making up sh~t about being OOS

 

[Eli]

You fsckin' "It's all about me" buyers are apart of what make some aspects of eBay unpleasant. :|

Grow up. Sh!t happens. Who cares if he's making it all up? It's still more than reasonable, and you have to assume that it's the truth.

Christ.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees.

Ok, what the fvck is wrong with you? He would either leave a negative or nothing at all. Leaving a positive feedback is just plain stupid. This seller is an asshole and if you can't see that, you're blind. He listed a phone on ebay, then all of a sudden "10" hours before the auction ends he can't "find" the phone. This happens yet he doesn't bother adding to his auction. Why? B/c he wanted to wait out the bidding...for the right amount of $$, he would have "found" a phone.

bmacd doesn't pay any fees at all and your paper analogy is just irrelavent.

 

[bmacd]

he would have left me negative feedbacjk without hesitating had i written him a letter that said, "sorry, i was just looking and didn't mean to bid". Essentially, he did the same thing, "sorry, i made an auction and don't have the product.".

I'll see what happens after this weeknd.

-=bmacd=-

 

[Bacardi151]

Originally posted by: Eli
You fsckin' "It's all about me" buyers are apart of what make some aspects of eBay unpleasant. :|

Grow up. Sh!t happens. Who cares if he's making it all up? It's still more than reasonable, and you have to assume that it's the truth.

Christ.

assume it's the truth?? that's the dumbest sh!t i've heard. just because you're naive and gullible doesnt mean the rest of us have to be that and take sh!t from sellers that refuse to perform a service that they are committed to.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

the only difference is that this is an auction - a contract - not an advertisement. at the very least the seller should offer a "raincheck". how much are these phones for ? maybe the seller is gonna lose out on selling it to the buyer for the ending bidding price so he's making up sh~t about being OOS

IT DOESEN'T MATTER.

Why do you feel the need to somehow try to fsck him over because he made a mistake? Do you think he did it on purpose? Why? Why would someone purposefully try and piss a customer off?

Use your god damn heads people! What if YOU were the seller and this was happening to you? The seller sounds young and inexperienced.

OK, look. I recently bough a stereo on eBay. It was defective, I had to send it back.

The seller refunded me.

Am I going to leave him a negative? Absofsckinglutely not. And I'm even out 20 bucks, the cost to ship it back to him. Do you understand? I am leaving him positive feedback because of good customer service.

By emailing you and telling you that he made a mistake, he is providing you with good customer service. Now reward him!

Good lord.

 

[thawolfman]

Originally posted by: Eli
If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Selling something in the paper =/= ebay

5.2 Binding Bids. Except for items listed in a category under the Non-binding Bid Policy, if you receive at least one bid at or above your stated minimum price (or in the case of reserve auctions, at or above the reserve price), you are obligated as the seller to complete the transaction with the highest bidder upon the auction's completion, unless there is an exceptional circumstance, such as: (a) the buyer fails to meet the terms of your listing (such as payment method), or (b) you cannot authenticate the buyer's identity

Maybe he was just trying to get out of letting his phone go too cheap?

Edit: But with 3 negatives I suppose not...

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

the only difference is that this is an auction - a contract - not an advertisement. at the very least the seller should offer a "raincheck". how much are these phones for ? maybe the seller is gonna lose out on selling it to the buyer for the ending bidding price so he's making up sh~t about being OOS

IT DOESEN'T MATTER.

Why do you feel the need to somehow try to fsck him over because he made a mistake? Do you think he did it on purpose? Why? Why would someone purposefully try and piss a customer off?

1 pissed off customer is better than losing money to some people

 

[Eli]

How do you know what "he would have done"?

Ok, whatever. It boils down to this: Do YOU want a negative feedback in return? If so, go for it.

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli
You fsckin' "It's all about me" buyers are apart of what make some aspects of eBay unpleasant. :|

Grow up. Sh!t happens. Who cares if he's making it all up? It's still more than reasonable, and you have to assume that it's the truth.

Christ.

assume it's the truth?? that's the dumbest sh!t i've heard. just because you're naive and gullible doesnt mean the rest of us have to be that and take sh!t from sellers that refuse to perform a service that they are committed to.

WTF?

How does me choosing to believe he's telling the truth make me gullible and naive? How are YOU fscked over because this guy made a mistake and owned up to it? How does whether he's telling the truth or not even change anything?!?

I really don't understand. You aren't out anything! He is! What is the problem?

 

[Bacardi151]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

the only difference is that this is an auction - a contract - not an advertisement. at the very least the seller should offer a "raincheck". how much are these phones for ? maybe the seller is gonna lose out on selling it to the buyer for the ending bidding price so he's making up sh~t about being OOS

IT DOESEN'T MATTER.

Why do you feel the need to somehow try to fsck him over because he made a mistake? Do you think he did it on purpose? Why? Why would someone purposefully try and piss a customer off?

Use your god damn heads people! What if YOU were the seller and this was happening to you? The seller sounds young and inexperienced.

OK, look. I recently bough a stereo on eBay. It was defective, I had to send it back.

The seller refunded me.

Am I going to leave him a negative? Absofsckinglutely not. And I'm even out 20 bucks, the cost to ship it back to him. Do you understand? I am leaving him positive feedback because of good customer service.

By emailing you and telling you that he made a mistake, he is providing you with good customer service. Now reward him!

Good lord.

because he thinks he can get away with it. if i was in the seller's shoes i would attempt to pretend i was OOS and not sell that piece for 200 bucks, assuming it goes for 300+.

"OK, look. I recently bough a stereo on eBay. It was defective, I had to send it back.

The seller refunded me."

and you're telling us this because??? it has nothign to do with this situation, you were refunded..good for you. this buyer is getting a steal and the guy isn't even offering him a raincheck, he claimed himself that he might get some in stock in the future. so why not ask him if he could possibly wait.

it's good there's ignorant people like you out there....less competition, and we do need the balance of idiots and non idiots out there

 

[bmacd]

if the seller sells the phone at the auction price, he'd be losing his ass out on some money, which is why i think he's not selling it.

-=bmacd=-

 

[thawolfman]

That's what I said originally, but seeing as how he only has 3 neg feedbacks...

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Eli
Who cares dude? He's the one thats out money for the listing and final value fees.

Just leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it...

why would you leave a positive? I say leave a negative...seeing that you only buy things...his negative won't affect you IMO

What the fsck is wrong with you people?

Why the fsck would you leave a negative?

He emailed you. He explained the situation. He has fulfilled his obligation as a seller. As he says, what do you want him to do.. produce a phone he doesen't have?

If you saw an ad in the paper for something, went to go buy it, and they told you they were out.. would you go around and talk negatively about that store because of that fact?

Look at it like this. He listed a FREE mutual positive feedback, you bought it. Now give it to him and he will reciprocate.

Like I said, this has not inconvienienced you at all. At least not compared to the inconvienence of potentially having a negative feedback and having to pay listing and final value fees. Sure, you may be disappointed you didn't get a good deal, or that you have to shop around some more.. but you aren't actually out anything.

the only difference is that this is an auction - a contract - not an advertisement. at the very least the seller should offer a "raincheck". how much are these phones for ? maybe the seller is gonna lose out on selling it to the buyer for the ending bidding price so he's making up sh~t about being OOS

IT DOESEN'T MATTER.

Why do you feel the need to somehow try to fsck him over because he made a mistake? Do you think he did it on purpose? Why? Why would someone purposefully try and piss a customer off?

1 pissed off customer is better than losing money to some people

hmmm...

I guess. But I still don't see the point.

I know about the contract bullsh!t.

It's to protect sellers from non-paying bidders, not to protect buyers from sellers that don't want your money.

!!!!

 

[Bacardi151]

Originally posted by: Eli
How do you know what "he would have done"?

Ok, whatever. It boils down to this: Do YOU want a negative feedback in return? If so, go for it.

Originally posted by: Bacardi151

Originally posted by: Eli
You fsckin' "It's all about me" buyers are apart of what make some aspects of eBay unpleasant. :|

Grow up. Sh!t happens. Who cares if he's making it all up? It's still more than reasonable, and you have to assume that it's the truth.

Christ.

assume it's the truth?? that's the dumbest sh!t i've heard. just because you're naive and gullible doesnt mean the rest of us have to be that and take sh!t from sellers that refuse to perform a service that they are committed to.

WTF?

How does me choosing to believe he's telling the truth make me gullible and naive? How are YOU fscked over because this guy made a mistake and owned up to it? How does whether he's telling the truth or not even change anything?!?

I really don't understand. You aren't out anything! He is! What is the problem?

he's out something??? are you kidding me! if anybody, the seller is gaining from not selling the phoen for less than 200 cuz he can then sell it to somebody else for more. the buyer here is losing on this situation because the net worth of that phone is more than 200.