Easiest way to cool a bottle of beer from room temperature to serving temp?

[Babbles]

But the ice cubes are not what is covering most of the surface area of the beer bottle, so the temp of the ice cubes is not relevant. The water itself cannot go below 32F without freezing, just as boiling water cannot go above 212F at 1atm.

Yeah, you may want to look up something called "Freezing Point Depression" - this like 8th grade information, dude.

Hell that very concept has been the primary item of dialog in this entire thread. Did you even bother to read anything here?

 

[Fenixgoon]

ice + water + salt.

for the person who asked about whether the state of matter makes a difference, the answer is yes.

if you had a beer bottle completely encased in solid ice at 0 F, you are relying on solid-solid conduction to transfer heat.

if you have beer in an icewater bath, you will get some conduction, but the main method of transfer is convection, which is significantly better for drawing away heat (especially forced convection. relying solely on temperature gradients is natural convection)

 

[Sea Moose]

Never made homemade ice cream, have you?

no, the shops have never run out of ice cream. Terrorists havent gotten to that resource yet :hmm:

 

[quakefiend420]

Iced salt water bath.

this

 

[tyler811]

Just make sure there's always a few cold ones ready in the fridge. I do that with pepsi, I make sure there is always at least two in there.

Your avatar looks like an inflamed vagina

 

[alkemyst]

pay the extra buck for Joe QuikeeMart's beer from a cooler.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Move to England; your room-temperature beer will already be at drinking temperature.

 

[Acanthus]

Exactly. The salt allows the solution to remain liquid while below the freezing point of water, but doesn't inherently make the water any colder.

It actually drops the temperature about 17C while it is melting the ice.

 

[Acanthus]

Salt does make the water colder in the presence of ice. This is why it was commonly used to make ice cream. According to this chemist, the water can drop to as low as -21C before freezing.

In the lab we got it down to about the same with a few pounds of road salt and ice.

We used it frequently for a low budget way of finding the freezing points of unknown substances.

 

[Cattlegod]

heat the room up by 30 degrees, that way the temp difference will be the same and it will be refreshing

 

[destrekor]

Chances are the ice is colder than 0ºC. I'm not really sure what the typical operating temperature of a home freezer is, but I would imagine it is something in the -15 to -20º region. The ice cubes should retain that temperature (or close to it) and therefore will not merely be at the freezing point of water.

Also as an aside, it may be a wise idea to crush the ice, sprinkle some salt on it then shove your can of beer into the crushed ice. I really haven't tried that method myself, but I wonder if increasing the surface area of crushed ice would be better.

The surface area of the ice is largely irrelevant, and also the exact reason salty ice water is more effective than just ice water or even just a bunch of ice itself.

Reason being, ice on its own, regardless of how finely chopped up it is (make ice shavings out of the ice, still not as effective), has less surface area in contact with the warmer bottle, and thus less capability for thermal transfer.

With salt added, even just ice added directly to the salt with no water originally (actually, this is ideal), what happens is you get a higher temperature water than the ice itself, but now with greater surface contact.

 

[drinkmorejava]

It can if it contains salt

You sir are wrong.

Yeah, you may want to look up something called "Freezing Point Depression" - this like 8th grade information, dude.

Hell that very concept has been the primary item of dialog in this entire thread. Did you even bother to read anything here?

Really guys, did any of you read what I quoted? I was explaining why it was necessary to add salt, because the ice cube temp would otherwise have a minimal effect until the water froze.

 

[kalrith]

put it in the refrigerator yesterday

This.

 

[her209]

Liquid nitrogen

 

[Phoenix86]

Cold with solution?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Cold with solution?

WWYBYWB? :hmm:

 

[Phoenix86]

I lost my account in the switch to the new forums, was Phoenix86.

Your avatar is only slightly more creepy, and by slightly I mean significantly.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

http://www.amazon.com/Cooper-Cooler-.../dp/B0000U3CIW

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I lost my account in the switch to the new forums, was Phoenix86.

Your avatar is only slightly more creepy, and by slightly I mean significantly.

Glad to know you weren't banned.

As for the avatar, I'm sticking with the clown theme since AT no longer has the clown avatar, and I've had creepier... :biggrin: