Early Warning Signs of Fascism: A point by point discussion.

[crashtech]

And what liberties do our scandinavian cousins sacrifice?

Seems that if your expectations are in line with the outcome, there's no perceived sacrifice at all.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Better places to live for whom? The dominant national/ethnic group?

Sure. Still better than the alternative on average.

Read it again. Then one more time. Then again.

Your implication was crystal clear: the alt-right are peaceful and being attacked by violent leftists.


EDIT: If that's not what you intended, then go back and edit the post to more clearly state what you intended. Pretty simple.

How about you quote me where I said that. In the current 29-page ANTIFA/MAGA thread, my very first post was to say that the Nazi guy appeared to be initiating violence and deserved life in prison.

 

[jackstar7]

How about you quote me where I said that. In the current 29-page ANTIFA/MAGA thread, my very first post was to say that the Nazi guy appeared to be initiating violence and deserved life in prison.

Shit... you do know what the word implied means, right? Guess I can't take it for granted. It means you didn't say it explicitly. Your subtext said it.

You should go back and look at what you wrote and what it implied. Then edit it to say what you actually meant.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Shit... you do know what the word implied means, right? Guess I can't take it for granted. It means you didn't say it explicitly. Your subtext said it.

You should go back and look at what you wrote and what it implied. Then edit it to say what you actually meant.

I said exactly what I meant, and precisely explained the meaning of "escalation" in a way compatible with a literate person's understanding, since you seemed to be struggling. At this point I don't know what else I can do to help you if you aren't even willing to quote the specific sentence you're having issues with.

 

[agent00f]

So what? From their perspective, if you're not a player then you're just another ho.

Let's break down my sentence so that it can be better understood:

Odd then that CEO's largely look alike; their promise is to keep it that way.

First it's simply a fact that CEO's & such are greatly privileged high status positions and therefore very desirable, in large part due to the basic nature of powerful decision making roles to confer status (jobs/legitimacy/etc) onto others. They are as matter of fact mostly occupied by male wasps. However also due to the nature of these roles' exclusivity, what they lack are numbers, ie votes, which are important in a political democracy.

Thus it's advantageous for such a collective to trade benefits they have to offer for votes, in a mutually advantageous exchange. A common and effective avenue of trade is with groups which share some identifying attribute, typical ethnic group or the like. The choice itself is largely arbitrary, but settled history certainly inform us of what's been popular, so presumably evolutionarily effective. And thus that accurately describes the primary causal mechanism behind contemporary american conservatism.

From this reality it's not hard to figure why these parties in play might seek to maintain that historical successful relationship.

 

[xthetenth]

Sure. Still better than the alternative on average.

You're diluting fascism so badly it's amazing that people who immediately step up to rant about how left wingers abuse the term aren't jumping down your throat (Oh wait, that's you. Good job!).

But past that, you're talking about fascism in its own countries, which is just mindbogglingly disingenuous and uncomfortably close to accepting the fascist premise that the only people who matter are those members of the home country that the fascist movement sprung from. Compared to the genocide planned in Generalplan Ost, the holocaust we had was a tea party. It wasn't some superiority of fascism to communism that meant that the Germans didn't kill somewhere around 50% of Russia's population and force another 15% into Siberia with the expectation that many would starve. In fact it was part of the horror of fascism that meant that they planned to do it. You do not get to use the fact that tens of millions of people died to prevent fascists from committing those murders to whitewash the legacy of those selfsame fascists.

 

[Jhhnn]

Seems that if your expectations are in line with the outcome, there's no perceived sacrifice at all.

That's pretty transparent dodging, an assertion that perception is reality.

If you can't articulate any loss of liberty in Scandinavia then it's misleading at best to say that it exists.

 

[Jhhnn]

Let's break down my sentence so that it can be better understood:


First it's simply a fact that CEO's & such are greatly privileged high status positions and therefore very desirable, in large part due to the basic nature of powerful decision making roles to confer status (jobs/legitimacy/etc) onto others. They are as matter of fact mostly occupied by male wasps. However also due to the nature of these roles' exclusivity, what they lack are numbers, ie votes, which are important in a political democracy.

Thus it's advantageous for such a collective to trade benefits they have to offer for votes, in a mutually advantageous exchange. A common and effective avenue of trade is with groups which share some identifying attribute, typical ethnic group or the like. The choice itself is largely arbitrary, but settled history certainly inform us of what's been popular, so presumably evolutionarily effective. And thus that accurately describes the primary causal mechanism behind contemporary american conservatism.

From this reality it's not hard to figure why these parties in play might seek to maintain that historical successful relationship.

You dodge the central point, that racism has never really been economically advantageous to poor whites at all. What LBJ offered is entirely true. Framing the issues in terms of race benefits only those at the top & divides those who would rise against their abusiveness. In your own way, you promote much the same sort of divisiveness.

 

[crashtech]

That's pretty transparent dodging, an assertion that perception is reality.

If you can't articulate any loss of liberty in Scandinavia then it's misleading at best to say that it exists.

I'm on holiday and about to lose cell service, but I think you are misinterpreting what I was trying to say. Let's just say that the fault is mine for not adequately explaining what I mean.

 

[jackstar7]

I said exactly what I meant, and precisely explained the meaning of "escalation" in a way compatible with a literate person's understanding, since you seemed to be struggling. At this point I don't know what else I can do to help you if you aren't even willing to quote the specific sentence you're having issues with.

The rest of your quote, dipshit. READ IT.

 

[xthetenth]

You dodge the central point, that racism has never really been economically advantageous to poor whites at all. What LBJ offered is entirely true. Framing the issues in terms of race benefits only those at the top & divides those who would rise against their abusiveness. In your own way, you promote much the same sort of divisiveness.

Unfortunately, racists are going to racist. How the hell do you expect people who're more concerned with eating Jim Crow than with eating to be decent allies and not sell you out the second they get theirs?

 

[agent00f]

You dodge the central point, that racism has never really been economically advantageous to poor whites at all. What LBJ offered is entirely true. Framing the issues in terms of race benefits only those at the top & divides those who would rise against their abusiveness. In your own way, you promote much the same sort of divisiveness.

To the contrary, it's most advantageous to lower class whites with no other claim to social status to still be considered/prioritized above whatever other mexicans arabs etc on the ethnic totem. Eg. the point of segregation and the like wasn't really physical separation per se but an solid line in sand which made it clear enough the worst off white was still better than the best black. Simply witness the various lowest common denominator degenerates here whose mental lives revolve around lording it over those others in an effort to reclaim that past.

Consider the PR mechanism liberals often see as an instrument for oppression of conservatives is just how these folks elevate their status. Without the expensive media stream of talking points to validate how/why they're better than them mexicans or arabs, why would they vote for those who provide such a beneficial service. Certainly doesn't look good to be ignorant of a reality that even what you see as dummy sheeple can figure out.

 

[Blue_Max]

Communism sucks, kids.

 

[jackstar7]

"Communism was just a red herring." - Wadsworth

 

[Jhhnn]

To the contrary, it's most advantageous to lower class whites with no other claim to social status to still be considered/prioritized above whatever other mexicans arabs etc on the ethnic totem. Eg. the point of segregation and the like wasn't really physical separation per se but an solid line in sand which made it clear enough the worst off white was still better than the best black. Simply witness the various lowest common denominator degenerates here whose mental lives revolve around lording it over those others in an effort to reclaim that past.

Consider the PR mechanism liberals often see as an instrument for oppression of conservatives is just how these folks elevate their status. Without the expensive media stream of talking points to validate how/why they're better than them mexicans or arabs, why would they vote for those who provide such a beneficial service. Certainly doesn't look good to be ignorant of a reality that even what you see as dummy sheeple can figure out.

The reality of it is that what they gain is only in their own minds. They're just white trash in the eyes of the financial elite, interchangeable with black & brown trash for their purposes.

 

[zinfamous]

Communism sucks, kids.

lol, look at #7, #4, #3, #2, #1, A and B Dittlespit, and please continue to pretend that this isn't the MO of your little cabal of internet longhairs.

 

[Jhhnn]

lol, look at #7, #4, #3, #2, #1, A and B Dittlespit, and please continue to pretend that this isn't the MO of your little cabal of internet longhairs.

Max was just born in the wrong time & place. He'd have been happy going to summer camp with these guys-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co

 

[Blue_Max]

lol, look at #7, #4, #3, #2, #1, A and B Dittlespit, and please continue to pretend that this isn't the MO of your little cabal of internet longhairs.

Nope. It's Progressive through-and-through. Try a good gaze in the mirror.

 

[xthetenth]

Nope. It's Progressive through-and-through. Try a good gaze in the mirror.

Have you ever seen one?

 

[Blue_Max]

Have you ever seen one?

...

...anyway, if you're so sure of yourself then I challenge you guys to state WHY you think those points apply to non-progressives like myself or any other average Joe.

I'll do the same (again) but our resident progressives have stated clearly they WON'T read any opposing views or watch those videos. Flat refusal.
Rather a waste of time trying to debate with the brainwashed devout.

 

[Amused]

Communism sucks, kids.

Bwahahahaha!!!

Never forget to fall for fake propaganda.

http://www.snopes.com/history/document/communistrules.asp

FALSE

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...VetNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h4oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7181,215319

Really old BS propaganda at that.

As typical, fuck the facts as long as it fits the narritive, right?

So... who's the one being duped by a totalitarian political movement that prizes useful lies over actual facts?

Who?

Yeah, that would be you. Time to face the facts. You spread false propaganda like a puppet, support pro-fascist racist groups while claiming to be neither...

Yeah... Maybe it's time for some introspection.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Congratulations for posting some badly done propaganda that was disproved close to 50 years ago.

Communism sucks, kids.

 

[IronWing]

False flag! That was Red_Max pretending to be Blue_Max.

 

[Jhhnn]

Bwahahahaha!!!

Never forget to fall for fake propaganda.

http://www.snopes.com/history/document/communistrules.asp

FALSE

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...VetNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=h4oDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7181,215319

Really old BS propaganda at that.

As typical, fuck the facts as long as it fits the narritive, right?

So... who's the one being duped by a totalitarian political movement that prizes useful lies over actual facts?

Who?

Yeah, that would be you. Time to face the facts. You spread false propaganda like a puppet, support pro-fascist racist groups while claiming to be neither...

Yeah... Maybe it's time for some introspection.

Even if it weren't fake going on about "Commies!" in 2017 is astoundingly lame.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Even if it weren't fake going on about "Commies!" in 2017 is astoundingly lame.

It's a proud American tradition that goes back a long way.