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Originally posted by: Perknose
Nor, sadly, will Eli Manning. :thumbsup:Originally posted by: ThePresence
Unfortunately, moral victories don't get you into the playoffs.
Touche, touche.
(But he probably will.)
I was sort of rooting for the Eagles in this game, but having all teams being exactly equal isn't the answer. Hell, 90% of the excitement of this game was because of the chance of an awesome upset. There should always be a dominant team. That dominance comes from the skill of the players and from the skill of the coaching staff in assembling the players who have that playing skill.
The "any given sunday" thing is not about all teams being equal, but about unexpected things happening, like a dominant team being beaten by an unlikely competitor. If there are no dominant teams then how can there be unlikely competitors?
i don't know why teams that play the PATS don't bump and run the PATs' WRs...(new rule or something)?
The PATs always run the slant with Welker.. and with his speed he can turn a 4 yd catch into 15 yrs.. is it so hard just to bump him when he gets off the scrimmage to slow him down?
plus, great O-line for the Pats, without the O-line men BRady would be out of the pocket most of the time.
The PATs always run the slant with Welker.. and with his speed he can turn a 4 yd catch into 15 yrs.. is it so hard just to bump him when he gets off the scrimmage to slow him down?
plus, great O-line for the Pats, without the O-line men BRady would be out of the pocket most of the time.
This should sound delusional to fans of other teams, but I think that the Patriots are the only team that can beat themselves.
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Yeah, looks that way.Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Perknose
Nor, sadly, will Eli Manning. :thumbsup:Originally posted by: ThePresence
Unfortunately, moral victories don't get you into the playoffs.
Touche, touche.
(But he probably will.)
Wanna' bet? :laugh:
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Perknose
Nor, sadly, will Eli Manning. :thumbsup:Originally posted by: ThePresence
Unfortunately, moral victories don't get you into the playoffs.
Touche, touche.
(But he probably will.)
I agree. But that's only because the other NFC wildcard "contender" blow worse.
Ruh rohs! You probably don't want Bank's latest take on Manning
I give more credit to Brady than BB, check his record as a head coach in Cleveland
(36-44, one winning season). BB was 5-11 in his first year at NE without Brady at QB
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I agree that Eli sucks, but I think the Giants will make the postseason in spite of him.Originally posted by: Perknose
Yeah, looks that way.Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Perknose
Nor, sadly, will Eli Manning. :thumbsup:Originally posted by: ThePresence
Unfortunately, moral victories don't get you into the playoffs.
Touche, touche.
(But he probably will.)
Wanna' bet? :laugh:
Do you really want to bet against the Giants making the playoffs?
I will take that bet.
How much?
BTW, YGPM
Of course, it's not like an average (at best) Eagles team imposed their will and mostly lost because of their mistakes. If you are looking for delusional, check the mirror.....
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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
He said that to the lady reporter, not Brady, which got a chuckle out of me.
The credit goes to having great players on the field.
BB couldnt win in Cleveland because the team sucked.
I doubt Brady being there at the time would've made too much of a difference.
Worried about getting beat deep, sounds great but if you don't slow them down and they get behind you it's 6. You can't roll both safeties off for help over the top and leave the middle exposed, same problem. Personnel also plays a huge role in that decision.
Most teams have opted to try and keep everything in front of them and minimize the YAC.
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Did you just throw an ad hominem at me for a statement that was intended to be harmless?
I meant that New England is unbeatable when it's players are on the same page. With all respect to the Eagles, the Patriots just were not playing well tonight, and not just the defense. Too many dropped passes and stupid disisions by Brady coupled with the defensive breakdown. New England should be thankful they came away with the win.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
He said that to the lady reporter, not Brady, which got a chuckle out of me.
The credit goes to having great players on the field.
BB couldnt win in Cleveland because the team sucked.
I doubt Brady being there at the time would've made too much of a difference.
Yet that team was moved to Baltimore and won a SB within a few years with a lot of the same players. Ozzie Newsome played @ the same role for both teams as far as player acquisition, with input from BB while in Cleveland.
Although I am a Pitt fan I live in C-town and unfortunately had to watch my share of Clowns games he coached, I was hardly impressed. He had 4 years to put his stamp on the team and they were never competitive, his game plans were atrocious and the players despised him. Obviously some things have changed (player opinion), but the record clearly shows he did not enjoy success until Brady was the QB.
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To be fair, dropped passes and bad decisions can easily come about because a defense is firing on all cylindars and is executing a perfect gameplan.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
He said that to the lady reporter, not Brady, which got a chuckle out of me.
The credit goes to having great players on the field.
BB couldnt win in Cleveland because the team sucked.
I doubt Brady being there at the time would've made too much of a difference.
I guess you didn't see the interview pr I'm missing something. Wes Welker had to cut the chat short because Belichick wanted him in the locker; that's when he made the statement.
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I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote the one before you. Disregard.Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
He said that to the lady reporter, not Brady, which got a chuckle out of me.
The credit goes to having great players on the field.
BB couldnt win in Cleveland because the team sucked.
I doubt Brady being there at the time would've made too much of a difference.
I guess you didn't see the interview pr I'm missing something. Wes Welker had to cut the chat short because Belichick wanted him in the locker; that's when he made the statement.
Of course, and I mean no insult to the Eagles with that statement; I just noticed that tonight Brady, his receiving core, and the defense seemed to be shaken more than usual, especially against a team that isn't "supposed" to offer much of a challenge. But the Eagles played an outstanding football game and I think tonight the Eagles lost the game; the Patriots didn't win it. Hopefully New England gets its act together for the remaining games because the wins aren't going to be handed to them.
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Did you just throw an ad hominem at me for a statement that was intended to be harmless?
I meant that New England is unbeatable when it's players are on the same page. With all respect to the Eagles, the Patriots just were not playing well tonight, and not just the defense. Too many dropped passes and stupid disisions by Brady coupled with the defensive breakdown. New England should be thankful they came away with the win.
I did not see any Patriots not "on the same page", no missed blocking assignments or routes Brady did not anticipate. I give more credit to the Eagles defense for disrupting their game plan as opposed to the Patriots just playing "out of style". Did Moss not play well, or did the Eagles manage to remove him as an option? Physical play by a secondary will often result in dropped passes.
IMHO their defense is a bit overrated, perhaps their age is catching up to them late in the season.
Hope the Cowgirls/Pack game turns out to be as good as tonights game.
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A) NE receivers felt the defensive heat.
b) The "defensive breakdown" was that genius Bill Belechick (sic) got outcoached, for once.
New England may or may not be thankful, it doesn't matter. They are an extremely good football team that nearly got outplayed.
Key word?
Nearly.
obviously, with how good the pats are, this game was a setup to make people rich off the spread. No team can beat the Pats this year. Anyone who actually thought that this game was going to go to the Eagles is an idiot. This game was for Vegas, nothing more.
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