E6400@3.4GHz 53Celcius idle with Big Typhoon???

[thilanliyan]

My idle temps. at 3.4GHz and 1.375v are around 53 degrees with a 24 ambient temperature using CoreTemp. I've reseated the Big Typhoon several times and it stays around the same. I've also replaced the fan with a Panaflo 100cfm fan.

My friend's E6600 at 1.425v and 3.2GHz using a Zalman 9500 stays at around 41-42 degrees idle.

What the heck could be wrong for the temperatures to be that high for me? Is the Zalman a lot better than the Big Typhoon? Do the Allendales put out a lot more heat than the Conroes?


Edit:
I found that if I tightened the heatsink down further I got temps. to within reasonable levels. Now load temps. with the case closed dropped to 58-59 and about 54 with the case open. However, the high cfm Panaflo fan is just too loud even at low rpm so I ditched it and went back to the big typhoon fan. Temps. are reasonable enough for now. I might have to try the Zalman 9500.

 

[CupCak3]

does your chip need lapped?

 

[theteamaqua]

first off, core temp is not accurate as most users in XS forum reported, 2nd even ur mobo temp sensor can be a little off

like 975XBX , most people say it report temp thats about 15c higher than what it is

thats pretty much what u should have in mind when looking at those tmeps monitor

now for bigtyphon, well u really need to replace its crappy stock 39CFM 120mm fan with a 80CFM fan at least, i have a 9 bux 80CFM fan and the temp just drop 5c instantly comapre to stock

bigtyphoon needs a high CFM fan, somne people even replace its fan with a silverstone 110CFM fan

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: CupCak3
does your chip need lapped?

I checked the flatness...it's pretty flat.

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
first off, core temp is not accurate as most users in XS forum reported, 2nd even ur mobo temp sensor can be a little off

like 975XBX , most people say it report temp thats about 15c higher than what it is

thats pretty much what u should have in mind when looking at those tmeps monitor

now for bigtyphon, well u really need to replace its crappy stock 39CFM 120mm fan with a 80CFM fan at least, i have a 9 bux 80CFM fan and the temp just drop 5c instantly comapre to stock

bigtyphoon needs a high CFM fan, somne people even replace its fan with a silverstone 110CFM fan

How about the comparison I made to my friend's E6600?? He is running higher voltage and gets about 10-12 degrees cooler with his Zalman 9500. I just want to know why there is such a large performance difference between the Big Typhoon and the Zalman. BTW, both me and my friend were using CoreTemp to view temps. The reason I'm using Coretemp is because it's almost the only way to compare your temps to someone else who is using a different motherboard, which would have the sensor in a different place than your own motherboard.

And I DID change the fan to a Panaflo 100cfm fan (as I said in my original post).

 

[theteamaqua]

did u guys use different board?? also u did overclock more than ur friend, so ... u should get higher temperature, another thing is maybe the conatact?? not sure

 

[thilanliyan]

Yeah he is using the Asus P5W-DH and I'm using the DS3. I had mine at 3.4GHz @ 1.375v, he had his at 3.2GHz @ 1.425v. I think the higher voltage should lead to higher temps even though mine is running 200MHz faster.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I need close to 1.425v actual (after vdroop) to get my E6400 stable at 3.4

I'm not willing to run it at that voltage 24/7 though.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I need close to 1.425v actual (after vdroop) to get my E6400 stable at 3.4

I'm not willing to run it at that voltage 24/7 though.

What are your temps in Coretemp?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I need close to 1.425v actual (after vdroop) to get my E6400 stable at 3.4

I'm not willing to run it at that voltage 24/7 though.

What are your temps in Coretemp?

at what speed?

 

[theteamaqua]

Originally posted by: thilan29
Yeah he is using the Asus P5W-DH and I'm using the DS3. I had mine at 3.4GHz @ 1.375v, he had his at 3.2GHz @ 1.425v. I think the higher voltage should lead to higher temps even though mine is running 200MHz faster.

well then u cant really compare them directly unless both of u have same board , they all report differently even for the same cpu at the same speed

 

[Vegitto]

Some mobo's have borked temperature sensors. It may be that these are your actual temps, it may be that they're way too high. I suggest getting an infrared thermometer (they can be had for $15 or so) and maybe a better cooler, like a Zalman CNPS 7700-CU or a 9500..

 

[theteamaqua]

no i think u can compare ur temp with oteher people if u both have the same boardm cyuz if both of u get something like 45c idle then u know the board reports high temps ... so on

but yeah i think u should get that thermometer for "actual" temp

 

[thilanliyan]

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
I need close to 1.425v actual (after vdroop) to get my E6400 stable at 3.4

I'm not willing to run it at that voltage 24/7 though.

What are your temps in Coretemp?

at what speed?

At your max stable speed?

Originally posted by: theteamaqua

Originally posted by: thilan29
Yeah he is using the Asus P5W-DH and I'm using the DS3. I had mine at 3.4GHz @ 1.375v, he had his at 3.2GHz @ 1.425v. I think the higher voltage should lead to higher temps even though mine is running 200MHz faster.

well then u cant really compare them directly unless both of u have same board , they all report differently even for the same cpu at the same speed

That's why I said we both used Coretemp, so that we CAN compare. AFAIK, coretemp doesn't change because of the motherboard being used.

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Some mobo's have borked temperature sensors. It may be that these are your actual temps, it may be that they're way too high. I suggest getting an infrared thermometer (they can be had for $15 or so) and maybe a better cooler, like a Zalman CNPS 7700-CU or a 9500..

Coretemp should be comparable across motherboards shouldn't it since it's using the on-die thermal sensor? In most of the reviews I've looked at, the Big Typhoon and Zalman 9500 perform closely to eachother that's why I'm wondering why my friend gets much better temps than me even though he's using more voltage than me.

 

[andytaro]

I have p5b Deluxe (non Wifi) with E6400 running @3.4Ghz (425x8). I've set my vcore to 1.4 in bios, but CPUZ reports 1.36.
I use Zalman 9500LED @max fan speed (AS5 is applied),and TAT and Core Temp reports 50C Idle/64C load. (orthos and dual prime95) but AI gear shows 49C/62C
Motherboad temp is 36C steady. Room temp is between 20-24.

Is CPU running too hot?

 

[Skott]

The E6400 spec sheet says design temp is 61C so most folks are trying to stay under 60C. The big question is CoreTemp that accurate? There is alot of debate about it. I'm not sure about the Everest program but all the other programs CoreTemp, SpeeFan, etc.,) seems to have people questioning their accuracy. Until we know better you might want to try and get that Coretemp load number below 60C just for safety sake. Most folks are averaging 3.2-3.4 in overclocking the E6400. Sounds like you are at the wall on aircooling for your setup.

 

[theteamaqua]

core temp + badaxe = crappy temp report ...

i have vcore set to 1.6v in bios, i get 46c idle, and when i set vcore to 1.55v , i get 46c again .... i forgot what temp was when i set vcore to default, but i dont think badaxe is anyh accurate

same goes for core temp, eople have report that its pure crap

also Asus board vdroop + real vcore is lower than what u set in bios, so if u set 1.4v im guessing ur getting 1.36v actual vcore, during idle, and prolly even lower at full load b/c of vdroop

 

[cmdrdredd]

at 1.485v in bios (about 1.425 actual) at 3.4Ghz is idle at 50c load above 62c (dual prime/orthos) but general usage never sees 59c.

 

[theteamaqua]

yeah my temp for both 1.55vcore and 1.6vcore in BIOS (which is 1.528v, and 1.55v actual) is 46c idle and 58c orthos ..

how can 2 vcore get same temp .....

 

[andytaro]

It seems to me that people @ 3.4Ghz with vcore 1.4~ getting around 50C idle/62-64 load temp readings. I guess I am not only one getting close to 50C idle temp. (so it is expected temp).
So I lowered my OC to 3.2Ghz(400x8) and 1.3V vcore (1.26 actual), and my idle temp is somewhere around 45C and load temp is @ 58~60. (1.3vcore is the lowest vcore setting for orthos and prime95 stable)
I only use this rig for playing video games (Bf2 and AOE3) and encoding digital video files (which won't exceed more than 54C in both cases) so I guess I am safe to stay @ 3.4Ghz.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: andytaro
It seems to me that people @ 3.4Ghz with vcore 1.4~ getting around 50C idle/62-64 load temp readings. I guess I am not only one getting close to 50C idle temp. (so it is expected temp).
So I lowered my OC to 3.2Ghz(400x8) and 1.3V vcore (1.26 actual), and my idle temp is somewhere around 45C and load temp is @ 58~60. (1.3vcore is the lowest vcore setting for orthos and prime95 stable)
I only use this rig for playing video games (Bf2 and AOE3) and encoding digital video files (which won't exceed more than 54C in both cases) so I guess I am safe to stay @ 3.4Ghz.

Yes likely...I'm just unwilling to run 24/7 at that voltage. I'm happy with 3.2Ghz and a little less heat output. The performance loss is so miniscule it's nothing to even think about.