e2140 = best purchase in a while.

[slightlyhuman]

Was on an x2 3800+ with some biostar board.

Bought an e2140 and abit ip35-e along with some N5 kingston ram($50 ram). Also picked up a $24 cooler from the egg.

Serpentroyal helped me get started by telling me the bios settings to run and what to watch out for(haven't OC'd anything since the t-bred b core days!).

I'm happily posting this while running 3.2ghz rock solid.

It took my 3dmark06 score from 8k to 11k just by throwing this cpu in and overclocking.

Just want to give credit where it's due. Thanks serpent:beer:!!

$60 cpu FTW.

 

[Elfear]

What vcore are you running at 3.2GHz? Oh, and congrats.

 

[SickBeast]

Nice overclock. :thumbsup:

How fast were you running the 3800+?

Do you notice a large performance difference even just in Windows? How about games?

I've been sitting on the fence thinking about getting a 2140 for some time now...at this point I'm gonna try to wait for the Penryns once they're cheap enough.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: DP
Was on an x2 3800+ with some biostar board.

Bought an e2140 and abit ip35-e along with some N5 kingston ram($50 ram). Also picked up a $24 cooler from the egg.

Serpentroyal helped me get started by telling me the bios settings to run and what to watch out for(haven't OC'd anything since the t-bred b core days!).

I'm happily posting this while running 3.2ghz rock solid.

It took my 3dmark06 score from 8k to 11k just by throwing this cpu in and overclocking.

Just want to give credit where it's due. Thanks serpent:beer:!!

$60 cpu FTW.

Glad to help. It's easy to overclock with IP35-E if you have quality RAMs, CPU cooler, and an okay chip. The number one overclocking issue is junk RAMs.

Folks also should stay away from Raptor drives and Antec Trio/Corsair 520/Corsair 620. These may not work properly with some P35 boards.

 

[lyssword]

HOw's it $60? Is it oem? Cuz the cheapest on newegg is $70 with code

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Boxed unit with CPU cooler and 3 yr warranty. $6 ship or local pick-up at B&M. I didn't have any problem pushing mine to +3.3GHz with 1.46Vcore. These things are blazing fast north of 3.0GHz.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...t_key=y&keyword1=e2140

 

[VirtualLarry]

Glad to hear you hit 3.2Ghz, I bought two of those CPUs from Microcenter, and am hoping to have the same success. I'm using SuperTalent and HP Micron DDR2-667, hopefully they will both OC to 400Mhz, using 4x1GB of each.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Don't raise the HP higher than 2.0V. These should hit 400MHz with 5-5-5-15-2T timing.

 

[slightlyhuman]

i think i'm running a vcore of 1.42.

temps never got over 55c load.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Nice overclock. :thumbsup:

How fast were you running the 3800+?

Do you notice a large performance difference even just in Windows? How about games?

I've been sitting on the fence thinking about getting a 2140 for some time now...at this point I'm gonna try to wait for the Penryns once they're cheap enough.

i had the 3800+ at 2.2ghz.

i noticed a very nice performance in games. tf2 loaded faster. crysis loaded and played faster and vista installed quicker.

i'll stay with this chip for a while.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Originally posted by: lyssword
HOw's it $60? Is it oem? Cuz the cheapest on newegg is $70 with code

might have been that

either way, money well spent.

 

[GundamF91]

Thanks to you guys pushing and prodding, I just bought one, MicroCenter has the retail box E2140 for $60 plus $6 shipping. I was going to get the Q6600, but they ran out before I got there. Also I couldn't justify that much cost in a quad which the games I play don't take advantage for. For the $60 processor, I figure I can always get a 45nm quad down the road sometime in 2008 and still be able to sell the E2140 to recoup some money. You just can't get a dual core processor for less than 60 bucks.

 

[GundamF91]

I am pairing this with IP35E so I'll need your help in this. Since the E2140 is multiplier locked at 8x, does that mean if I can get IP35E to run 450mhz, then it's possible for it to reach 8x450=3.6Ghz? That's probably a bit out of reach I guess. Would the E2180 be able to reach 3.6Ghz? I'm curious how this works with say E2180's 10x multiplier. Does this mean you can crank up the FSB, but also lower the 10x to 8x so that the processor runs cooler? Does this mean then that E2180 vs. E2140 is that both can run at 8x400, but E2180 will be able to run cooler and with less voltage?

 

[slightlyhuman]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
I am pairing this with IP35E so I'll need your help in this. Since the E2140 is multiplier locked at 8x, does that mean if I can get IP35E to run 450mhz, then it's possible for it to reach 8x450=3.6Ghz? That's probably a bit out of reach I guess. Would the E2180 be able to reach 3.6Ghz? I'm curious how this works with say E2180's 10x multiplier. Does this mean you can crank up the FSB, but also lower the 10x to 8x so that the processor runs cooler? Does this mean then that E2180 vs. E2140 is that both can run at 8x400, but E2180 will be able to run cooler and with less voltage?

serpentroyal can probably provide your answers.

he's god-like.

 

[GundamF91]

What's the stepping of the E2140 you and SerpentRoyal from MicroCenter? I think it's probably L2. I have'nt heard any M0 stepping for E2140, though M0 seems to be more available for E2160.

Also how long does it take for them to ship? I am waiting to build mine, already have RAM, mobo and other parts coming. just needs to the CPU now.

Also,

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
I am pairing this with IP35E so I'll need your help in this. Since the E2140 is multiplier locked at 8x, does that mean if I can get IP35E to run 450mhz, then it's possible for it to reach 8x450=3.6Ghz? That's probably a bit out of reach I guess. Would the E2180 be able to reach 3.6Ghz? I'm curious how this works with say E2180's 10x multiplier. Does this mean you can crank up the FSB, but also lower the 10x to 8x so that the processor runs cooler? Does this mean then that E2180 vs. E2140 is that both can run at 8x400, but E2180 will be able to run cooler and with less voltage?

All E21x0 and E4xx0 chips should hit a FSB wall around 425MHz. Therefore, even if you have a superb E2140, your maximum core speed may be limited to 8 x 425.

In general, higher FSB will require higher NB voltage and Vdimm. IP35-E should run well up to 450MHz FSB at default NB and SB if you have quality JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs. You may need to bump Vdimm up to 2.1 to maintain RAM stability.

For best performance, use the highest multi available to achieve the highest possible CPU core speed. Use memory divider as needed to overclock RAMs.

For example, E2140 @ 3.2GHz = 400MHz FSB x 8 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

E2180 @ 3.2GHz = 320MHz FSB x 10 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 320MHz RAM speed, or 1:1.25 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

The E2140 rig may bench a tad better due to the higher FSB speed.

 

[UJ09]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: GundamF91
I am pairing this with IP35E so I'll need your help in this. Since the E2140 is multiplier locked at 8x, does that mean if I can get IP35E to run 450mhz, then it's possible for it to reach 8x450=3.6Ghz? That's probably a bit out of reach I guess. Would the E2180 be able to reach 3.6Ghz? I'm curious how this works with say E2180's 10x multiplier. Does this mean you can crank up the FSB, but also lower the 10x to 8x so that the processor runs cooler? Does this mean then that E2180 vs. E2140 is that both can run at 8x400, but E2180 will be able to run cooler and with less voltage?

All E21x0 and E4xx0 chips should hit a FSB wall around 425MHz. Therefore, even if you have a superb E2140, your maximum core speed may be limited to 8 x 425.

In general, higher FSB will require higher NB voltage and Vdimm. IP35-E should run well up to 450MHz FSB at default NB and SB if you have quality JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs. You may need to bump Vdimm up to 2.1 to maintain RAM stability.

For best performance, use the highest multi available to achieve the highest possible CPU core speed. Use memory divider as needed to overclock RAMs.

For example, E2140 @ 3.2GHz = 400MHz FSB x 8 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

E2180 @ 3.2GHz = 320MHz FSB x 10 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 320MHz RAM speed, or 1:1.25 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

The E2140 rig may bench a tad better due to the higher FSB speed.

How about sub0zero cooling on E21X0? I heard that with sub-zero cooling u can push the FSB wall further, so in this case should I get E2140 or E2180?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: DP
Was on an x2 3800+ with some biostar board.

Bought an e2140 and abit ip35-e along with some N5 kingston ram($50 ram). Also picked up a $24 cooler from the egg.

Serpentroyal helped me get started by telling me the bios settings to run and what to watch out for(haven't OC'd anything since the t-bred b core days!).

I'm happily posting this while running 3.2ghz rock solid.

It took my 3dmark06 score from 8k to 11k just by throwing this cpu in and overclocking.

Just want to give credit where it's due. Thanks serpent:beer:!!

$60 cpu FTW.

Glad to help. It's easy to overclock with IP35-E if you have quality RAMs, CPU cooler, and an okay chip. The number one overclocking issue is junk RAMs.

Folks also should stay away from Raptor drives and Antec Trio/Corsair 520/Corsair 620. These may not work properly with some P35 boards.

I really havent seen a lot of issues recently with memory, except of course users with DDRII 533/667.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: UJ09

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: GundamF91
I am pairing this with IP35E so I'll need your help in this. Since the E2140 is multiplier locked at 8x, does that mean if I can get IP35E to run 450mhz, then it's possible for it to reach 8x450=3.6Ghz? That's probably a bit out of reach I guess. Would the E2180 be able to reach 3.6Ghz? I'm curious how this works with say E2180's 10x multiplier. Does this mean you can crank up the FSB, but also lower the 10x to 8x so that the processor runs cooler? Does this mean then that E2180 vs. E2140 is that both can run at 8x400, but E2180 will be able to run cooler and with less voltage?

All E21x0 and E4xx0 chips should hit a FSB wall around 425MHz. Therefore, even if you have a superb E2140, your maximum core speed may be limited to 8 x 425.

In general, higher FSB will require higher NB voltage and Vdimm. IP35-E should run well up to 450MHz FSB at default NB and SB if you have quality JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs. You may need to bump Vdimm up to 2.1 to maintain RAM stability.

For best performance, use the highest multi available to achieve the highest possible CPU core speed. Use memory divider as needed to overclock RAMs.

For example, E2140 @ 3.2GHz = 400MHz FSB x 8 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

E2180 @ 3.2GHz = 320MHz FSB x 10 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 320MHz RAM speed, or 1:1.25 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

The E2140 rig may bench a tad better due to the higher FSB speed.

How about sub0zero cooling on E21X0? I heard that with sub-zero cooling u can push the FSB wall further, so in this case should I get E2140 or E2180?

It's a FSB wall inherent with those chips. E2180 could theoretically do 425 x 10 with esoteric cooling as long as the PWM and NB are also receiving good air flow.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: DP
Was on an x2 3800+ with some biostar board.

Bought an e2140 and abit ip35-e along with some N5 kingston ram($50 ram). Also picked up a $24 cooler from the egg.

Serpentroyal helped me get started by telling me the bios settings to run and what to watch out for(haven't OC'd anything since the t-bred b core days!).

I'm happily posting this while running 3.2ghz rock solid.

It took my 3dmark06 score from 8k to 11k just by throwing this cpu in and overclocking.

Just want to give credit where it's due. Thanks serpent:beer:!!

$60 cpu FTW.

Glad to help. It's easy to overclock with IP35-E if you have quality RAMs, CPU cooler, and an okay chip. The number one overclocking issue is junk RAMs.

Folks also should stay away from Raptor drives and Antec Trio/Corsair 520/Corsair 620. These may not work properly with some P35 boards.

I really havent seen a lot of issues recently with memory, except of course users with DDRII 533/667.

Quality JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs should run well with all boards, including IP35s.

 

[Tempered81]

[/quote]

All E21x0 and E4xx0 chips should hit a FSB wall around 425MHz. Therefore, even if you have a superb E2140, your maximum core speed may be limited to 8 x 425.

In general, higher FSB will require higher NB voltage and Vdimm. IP35-E should run well up to 450MHz FSB at default NB and SB if you have quality JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs. You may need to bump Vdimm up to 2.1 to maintain RAM stability.

For best performance, use the highest multi available to achieve the highest possible CPU core speed. Use memory divider as needed to overclock RAMs.

For example, E2140 @ 3.2GHz = 400MHz FSB x 8 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

E2180 @ 3.2GHz = 320MHz FSB x 10 multi. Use 1:1 memory divider for 320MHz RAM speed, or 1:1.25 memory divider for 400MHz RAM speed.

The E2140 rig may bench a tad better due to the higher FSB speed.[/quote]


hi serpentroyal, i have a question regarding increasing the FSB using an e4300. I am hitting a point at which i can go no further above 355mhz on the FSB using a gigabyte p965 ds3 motherboard. I believe like you say that it is either my NB or vdimm & possibly the timings and speed of my ddr800 supertalent ram.

what would you reccomend as a nice cpu voltage, memory voltage, memory timing, NB & Vdimm? my 4300 cpu multi is on 9x i believe at 350mhz FSB currently providing me with 3151mhz. I would like to reach 3.4~3.5 ghz range.

Thank you.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

You may be at the upper limit of your chip without more Vcore, and VNB. Nominal overclock for these chips is 3.2GHz. Good RAMs should be able to hit 355MHz at default voltage and timing. Run memtest86 test #5 for 50 loops to check RAMs.

If you have a good CPU cooler, then try 1.46Vcore. Increase NB voltage by one or two notches. Many P965 boards have a problem pushing these 800MHz CPUs north of 360MHz FSB. I see the same problem with the P965 Abit board.

 

[GundamF91]

DDR2-800 Ram should be able to handle 400mhz as long as they're within JEDEC DDR2 spec, is that right? So it seems that IP35-E wont' be limiting factor, neither would DDR2-800 ram. So for the E2140 to hit 8x400=3.2Ghz may be down to cooling. Also there might be a bad apple E2140 once in a while that just won't oc for its worth.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
What's the stepping of the E2140 you and SerpentRoyal from MicroCenter? I think it's probably L2. I have'nt heard any M0 stepping for E2140, though M0 seems to be more available for E2160.

Also how long does it take for them to ship? I am waiting to build mine, already have RAM, mobo and other parts coming. just needs to the CPU now.

Also,

my e2140 has m0.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
You just can't get a dual core processor for less than 60 bucks.

Wait until Intel releases their dual-core Celeron E1xxx line.