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brtspears2

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Reseller ratings post analyzed by me
1- Unfortunately, due to the way the P4 478 pins were listed (they start with the fastest northwoods, then list a few older chips THEN at the very bottom of the list is the 1.8A listed BELOW the 1.5ghz)Check it yourself: http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductList.jsp?ThirdCategoryCode=010408

Read the fine print.

2- The price difference is around $5 which makes the sale of older chips at the same price a ripoff aimed at the regular joe.

As of today, $3.

Some people might need an older chip. Sorta like old cars, need parts from old cars, and they might cost a premium. Since googlegear got these chips before the northwoods, most likely, they paid a higher price, and trying to protect their bottom line. If these chips weren't moving, then they will lower their prices.

You ever watch stocks? Same idea... people buy, sell.. some win, some lose. Some wish they bought something at a lower price to have great profits later, but it past. You made a commitment to that processor, putting in the cart, verify that those are the items you want...

1- Get a refund
2- AND Pay a restock fee of 15%
3- AND Pay myself for the shipping back of the part.
4- AND order the new part at full price
5- AND pay again for shipping
6- To top it off, she (the representative) hung up on me while I was asking for details about the shipping back!!

Sounds like a fair business practice. Restocking fees are norm for most online retailers. Are they suppose to cut you a deal when you made a mistake and admit to the mistake? Btw, as of today, you are crying over $3.

An apology is not going to cut it. I want actions, words are useless.

//scarcasm --> Yes, words are useless, laws are useless, my words are useless. Actions, arrests, hazing, whatever, blah are going to cut it.

From Googlegear.com: If the processor is returned to us unopened, we will waive the restocking fee. Otherwise, the 15% will still apply.

More than generous. They can't sell an open processor, so they allowing you to return it, as long as it's like new.

What else can I say, besides that sometimes the needs of the few sometimes like to screw over the many.
 

Rainsford

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Gozu, I don't know why you are getting so bent out of shape about the replies you are getting. You ordered the wrong part and then expected them to break their policy (which is in writing by the way) for you. I can understand if you don't like their return policy, but most stores have similar policies, and you could see their policy before you bought the processor, you shouldn't have been surprised. And they make a very valid point in their reply, they have a screen that allows you to check and make sure you ordered the right part before the purchase goes through. You should double check before ordering anything.

This problem was 100% your fault. Maybe you don't want to be charged for your mistake, but that's their policy that you should have known about before you ordered. GoogleGear was not at fault in any way, I don't understand why you blamed them.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Gozu, I don't know why you are getting so bent out of shape about the replies you are getting. You ordered the wrong part and then expected them to break their policy (which is in writing by the way) for you. I can understand if you don't like their return policy, but most stores have similar policies, and you could see their policy before you bought the processor, you shouldn't have been surprised. And they make a very valid point in their reply, they have a screen that allows you to check and make sure you ordered the right part before the purchase goes through. You should double check before ordering anything.

This problem was 100% your fault. Maybe you don't want to be charged for your mistake, but that's their policy that you should have known about before you ordered. GoogleGear was not at fault in any way, I don't understand why you blamed them.

He's getting bent out of shape because he isn't hearing what he wants to hear, just like he got bent out of shape because he ordered what he didn't want. I think Gozu needs to shut-up. :|
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Gozu
you do understand that if you do what you just did (ie: answer each point negatively) you lose all credibility, don't you? don't say no. just think about it for a few minutes.

I could go all over your answer and do the exact same thing, but you know what? it's a dialogue between deaf people. and a waste of time. I have seen it done sooooo many times and the result was always a waste of bandwidth ending with both contestants sticking to their initial positions.

a couple things though: I didn't post this to gloat. I did it to show other people what courses of action get you somewhere, and which ones don't. Don't forget I called googlegear several times to try and work it out with them. and they hung up on me. Funny thing I was being very nice and they hung up while I was simply asking them if I had to ship back the package in a special way. And you might wanna work on your analogies. they aren't just bad, they are totally absurd. I mean seriously...work on them.

PS: don't think you "defeated me" or "enlightened me" with your post. If you want to discuss this whole thing further, I'd be glad to chat with you on IRC. I'm on efnet and my nick is gozu. friendly argumentative chat that is. If you just want to insult me, don't bother.

gozu, your original post had no information in it, the link you gave us only gives us a negative perspective of you, and the few replies you gave before you went testosterone on us gave little help to what it was you were trying to achive in this thread. you're blaming everyone for judging you before having all the facts but that's what a forum is for... responses... and everyone responded based on what they read. so calm down, have a beer (if your old enough), and think happy thoughts. And for heaven's sake stop insulting everyone's mom.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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lol - this thread, filled with insults, stupidity, and disdain, is enough to make me feel more at home :) I won't bother posting what I was going to say :D

nik
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
lol - this thread, filled with insults, stupidity, and disdain, is enough to make me feel more at home :) I won't bother posting what I was going to say :D

nik

no please do - and for heavens sake change your icon back! :Q :( ;)
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
lol - this thread, filled with insults, stupidity, and disdain, is enough to make me feel more at home :) I won't bother posting what I was going to say :D

nik

no please do - and for heavens sake change your icon back! :Q :( ;)

That is like his 8th icon since yesterday. Will you fricking pick one FFM? don't make me come over there!

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: pulse8
it's a dialogue between deaf people.
Do deaf people still buy sound cards?

yes we do. heh i had to get a SB16 because some game would NOT PLAY without a soundcard. As do a many other ones.
 

Daaavo

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My favorite statement from Gozu was, "as long as they treat me right, I hold them no illness whatsoever." WTF???!????

You're the fscknut that ordered the wrong part and now you think you're some sort of victim??? Let me guess, when you spill hot coffee on yourself, you immediately try to blame someone else for that too??? It's always somebody elses fault.
 

MrCodeDude

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You made mistake, you pay for it. End of story, the end. No more comments needed, I have said it all :D
-- mrcodedude
 

tcsenter

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My favorite statement from Gozu was, "as long as they treat me right, I hold them no illness whatsoever."
My favorite was his suggestion that he 'is in a position to purchase millions of dollars of computer hardware and I will take my business elsewhere'.

Let me tell you, 99.9998% of customers who say they're some bigshot with a lot of purchasing power and threaten to take their business elsewhere are 15 year-olds who expect to buy a new video card within the next three years...but little else.
 

Amused

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By throwing a fit like a spoiled little bitch when confronted with the majority opinion, you only PROVE what everyone has said.

Good job.
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Not only that, but you had to PM me a copy of your spoiled little whine?

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loup garou

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Hey Gozu, you know what would be really cool? If you never posted on this forum again. That would rule.
 

rival

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man i just went to the store and got a 12pack of pepsi and i meant to get coke, im sueing those fvckers!@#
 

Gozu

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This whole thing is about an exchange. I do believe that if you buy something at a store and then want to return it in perfect condition AND exchange it for something of equal or superior value, you shouldn't have to pay any fees for it. That's all. If any of these conditions are not met, things change and I have no problems with it.

Hey, that's just how I see things. I did read their policy on returns but for me, returns and exchanges were totally different things which is why I was pissed off when they told me they didn't have any exchange policy.

If you don't agree with me, fine. You are wrong and I am right. It's your right to be wrong.

brtspears2, you didn't understand the problem. please re-read until you understand what I wanted. Ah, and don't analyze my open letter to googlegear. I was deliberately extremely biased against them. I was just making a case. ya know? like lawyers? if you don't do that, you don't stand a chance.

And once more for all of you. A return policy is not an exchange policy. for me, these are very different things.
 

fatbaby

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Originally posted by: Gozu
This whole thing is about an exchange. I do believe that if you buy something at a store and then want to return it in perfect condition AND exchange it for something of equal or superior value, you shouldn't have to pay any fees for it. That's all. If any of these conditions are not met, things change and I have no problems with it.

Hey, that's just how I see things. I did read their policy on returns but for me, returns and exchanges were totally different things which is why I was pissed off when they told me they didn't have any exchange policy.

If you don't agree with me, fine. You are wrong and I am right. It's your right to be wrong.

brtspears2, you didn't understand the problem. please re-read until you understand what I wanted. Ah, and don't analyze my open letter to googlegear. I was deliberately extremely biased against them. I was just making a case. ya know? like lawyers? if you don't do that, you don't stand a chance.

And once more for all of you. A return policy is not an exchange policy. for me, these are very different things.

So if i go to the grocery store and they have a sale on pepsi, but i accidently buy coke, open a few cans, I have a God given right to return it for a complete refund?

 

brtspears2

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Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gozu
Originally posted by: Gozu
... return it in perfect condition AND ...

So no compensation to googlegear for the time it takes them to put the item back in their inventory. Someone takes the box, checks if its perfect, re-stocks it... it costs money. If you ever sold computer parts, sometimes competition is stiff and you have very small margins. If everyone is returning things because "I just wanted to see it" and then expected to refund without a penalty, I don't think many stores will be open.

Let the buyer beware.

As everyone said before, you bought coke, you wanted vanilla coke. You bought vanilla coke before you returned the original coke. The store will take back your coke, as long as you ship it back to them at your cost.

 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: brtspears2
Originally posted by: Gozu
Originally posted by: Gozu
... return it in perfect condition AND ...

So no compensation to googlegear for the time it takes them to put the item back in their inventory. Someone takes the box, checks if its perfect, re-stocks it... it costs money. If you ever sold computer parts, sometimes competition is stiff and you have very small margins. If everyone is returning things because "I just wanted to see it" and then expected to refund without a penalty, I don't think many stores will be open.

Let the buyer beware.

As everyone said before, you bought coke, you wanted vanilla coke. You bought vanilla coke before you returned the original coke. The store will take back your coke, as long as you ship it back to them at your cost.

I want some vanilla coke. :( I'm on a restricted diet right now and no coke for me. :(
 

brtspears2

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Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: MingChia
Originally posted by: bthorny
Man their is some dumping going on in this forum wow

Hey, I woulda just posted my opinion, and left and let it be, but someone PM'ed me and decided to start a debate of sorts.

I APOLOGIZE for wahtever inconvience that I've personally caused you. I'm sorry for all the bandwidth I've wasted.

I personally find that being mature and approaching a problem with a calm tone usually is a better way to go, instead of blaming someone outright for their "processor arragement" on the page, and how its misleading.

<-- quits this thread, lets Gozu win and continue to claim he/she E-WHINING can pay off, while all it really does is just cause more problems for everyone else.

My final opinion in this post stands as "let the buyer beware".
 

somethingwitty

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Originally posted by: Gozu
This whole thing is about an exchange. I do believe that if you buy something at a store and then want to return it in perfect condition AND exchange it for something of equal or superior value, you shouldn't have to pay any fees for it. That's all. If any of these conditions are not met, things change and I have no problems with it.

if I buy a product from the grocery store and want to exchange it for a more expensive brand (no restocking fee) should they pay me for the gas I used to get there? (that ought to shoot down part of your arguement ;))