Dylann Roof is a begging bitch.

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

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[MtnMan]

Maybe not a popular take here, but I am against the death penalty even for people like Dylan Roof. His attempts to weasel out of his sentence don't change that for me cause he's a shitty person and nothing he's going to do after murdering 9 people is going to somehow be worse than murdering 9 people.

It is a fact that innocent people have been executed. That is a failed system.

However, when there is zero doubt, such as with this case, I have no problem if he was taken from the courtroom to the gallows behind the courthouse.

If he stays alive, gets treatment, and one day realizes that he threw his life away... if one day he wakes up and is truly remorseful for the shit that he did, but knows that he will live and die in prison for his crimes, that is a punishment worse than death.

Works for me, not a huge fan of the death penalty. All I can add is that I hope his pain in that situation lasts a long time. Don't off him too fast...

We should not be on the hook to feed, house, and provide health care for these people for the rest of their life. Average cost to keep a prisoner locked up is around $40K/year, for maybe another 50 - 60 years for this guy. That's $2,000,000 minimum, to satisfy your desire for him to suffer.

 

[rommelrommel]

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What's your problem?

 

[feralkid]

We should not be on the hook to feed, house, and provide health care for these people for the rest of their life. Average cost to keep a prisoner locked up is around $40K/year, for maybe another 50 - 60 years for this guy. That's $2,000,000 minimum, to satisfy your desire for him to suffer.

If you're arguing from a financial angle, perhaps some further information is needed.

Death Penalty Cost

Recent Cost Studies A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable

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What Criminal Sentence Costs More: Death or Life in Prison?

If prosecutors were to solely consider cost, which ultimate punishment would they choose: death or life in prison?

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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/urls_cited/ot2016/16-5247/16-5247-2.pdf

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[MtnMan]

If you're arguing from a financial angle, perhaps some further information is needed.

Death Penalty Cost

Recent Cost Studies A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable

www.amnestyusa.org

What Criminal Sentence Costs More: Death or Life in Prison?

If prosecutors were to solely consider cost, which ultimate punishment would they choose: death or life in prison?

www.thebalance.com

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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/urls_cited/ot2016/16-5247/16-5247-2.pdf

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That because the gallows are not behind the courthouse.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

This twerp has to be costing us more than the average Federal inmate, because we all know he can never be in the general population. They much be using extra resources to keep him isolated.

 

[Viper1j]

No conjugal visits for those guys.

Except from some big guy you don't WANT one from!

 

[HomerJS]

Why is the state obligated to protect him in prison? In fact they SHOULD put him in a ward with a lot of brothers who will welcome him with open arms. Treat him just like the other prisoners

Why should he have a good time in prison?

 

[Viper1j]

Why is the state obligated to protect him in prison? In fact they SHOULD put him in a ward with a lot of brothers who will welcome him with open arms. Treat him just like the other prisoners

Why should he have a good time in prison?

This is why.

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[rommelrommel]

Why is the state obligated to protect him in prison? In fact they SHOULD put him in a ward with a lot of brothers who will welcome him with open arms. Treat him just like the other prisoners

Why should he have a good time in prison?

I don’t think the state should be in the business of facilitating rape as punishment.

 

[zinfamous]

poor little white supremacist. Maybe he should appeal to someone like Taj to help spring him? I'm sure those two would get along, talking about the joys of murdering young black children together.

 

[HomerJS]

I don’t think the state should be in the business of facilitating rape as punishment.

I'm not saying facilitate meaning put him in a room with a horny inmate and close the door. I'm saying don't treat him any differently then the other inmates.

Prisoners get attacked everyday so the rules for protecting them isn't as strict as the rules would seem.

 

[rommelrommel]

I'm not saying facilitate meaning put him in a room with a horny inmate and close the door. I'm saying don't treat him any differently then the other inmates.

Prisoners get attacked everyday so the rules for protecting them isn't as strict as the rules would seem.

Some prisoners do get attacked sometimes, but this prisoner will absolutely get killed. They can’t be reckless about assured death.

 

[HomerJS]

Some prisoners do get attacked sometimes, but this prisoner will absolutely get killed. They can’t be reckless about assured death.

I would pass the word around to the inmates this guy is not to be killed. However torturing him for 10 years is on the table.

 

[WelshBloke]

Prisoners get attacked everyday so the rules for protecting them isn't as strict as the rules would seem.

I mean I'd say that the issue there is that we are allowing prisoners to be attacked every day rather than we are not allowing this one to be attacked as well.

 

[HomerJS]

I mean I'd say that the issue there is that we are allowing prisoners to be attacked every day rather than we are not allowing this one to be attacked as well.

Exactly!!

 

[repoman0]

It usually feels right to be against the death penalty, but in cases like this I don’t really care. He did it, he was caught in the act, had his trial, case closed. The only problem is how expensive it is when a few bucks worth of bullets would suffice. Could save a couple million dollars worth of taxpayer money. To hell with “making him suffer” with solitary life in prison, a fate obviously worse than death … it’s not worth the money.

 

[HomerJS]

It usually feels right to be against the death penalty, but in cases like this I don’t really care. He did it, he was caught in the act, had his trial, case closed. The only problem is how expensive it is when a few bucks worth of bullets would suffice. Could save a couple million dollars worth of taxpayer money.

That's why I say just let him be part of the natural order in prison. Other inmates will see that he regrets killing those people.

 

[Viper1j]

It usually feels right to be against the death penalty, but in cases like this I don’t really care. He did it, he was caught in the act, had his trial, case closed. The only problem is how expensive it is when a few bucks worth of bullets would suffice. Could save a couple million dollars worth of taxpayer money. To hell with “making him suffer” with solitary life in prison, a fate obviously worse than death … it’s not worth the money.

In Russia and China, they even charge the families for the cost of the bullet.

Now that's true fiscal conservatism.