DVD media capable of 12x???

[bjc112]

Well i got my NEC 3500 A this afternoon..

So far so good.. Burn a full 4.7GB in about 9:32 seconds.. ( Sound right? )

Read speeds are a HELL of a lot better than my lite on..I do have a couple DVD's filled with MP3 backups, and the NEC couldn't read them..

I would love to take advantage of 16x but we all know that's not anytime soon....

I know there is no 12x media available..

ANY 8x media capable of handling that type of speed?

TY?

Ritek?

Where to buy?

Thanks!



EDIT: Found some at Meritline

Going to buy a 25 pack for 23 and see what happens..

:Q

 

[bjc112]

Noone has burned any media @ 12x yet?

 

[Bar81]

Thing is that it depends on your burner and its firmware. You can check the recommended media on Plextor's site for the 8x media that writes at 12x on the PX-712(S)A iirc it's a short list Also remember that the burner you bought has been out less than a week or so in the US so you might have to be a little more patient. Did you check the NEC site for recommended media?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Bar81
Thing is that it depends on your burner and its firmware. You can check the recommended media on Plextor's site for the 8x media that writes at 12x on the PX-712(S)A iirc it's a short list Also remember that the burner you bought has been out less than a week or so in the US so you might have to be a little more patient. Did you check the NEC site for recommended media?

True,

But I would have thought that some of the TY media (8x) was capable of 12x on most drives...

NEC doesn't appear to have ANY info on the 3500..

NEC

 

[Big Lar]

The TY Media is rated at 8x, but supposedly it'll do 12x. I ordered the Plextor Sata burner from the Egg, and am expecting it Monday or Tuesday. I also ordered some discs from plextor,( the 1's that are supposed to run 12x), and will LYK how they do when they show.

 

[bjc112]

Sounds good,


BUMP!

I find it hard to believe with all the different burners, there is not capable, let alone reliable media..

 

[augiem]

Dunno if you're backing up important data, but Tom's Hardware said you should never write anything critical at faster than 4x. Apparantly there's just too much chance for error ... or at least it writes overall lower quality (less reliable redundancy of the pits, etc.)

A

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: augiem
Dunno if you're backing up important data, but Tom's Hardware said you should never write anything critical at faster than 4x. Apparantly there's just too much chance for error ... or at least it writes overall lower quality (less reliable redundancy of the pits, etc.)

A

I partially believe that.. But if its QUALITY disc, and its rate at a certain speed, i expect it too.. .

But I would still try several disc and check the quality and go from there..

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: augiem
Dunno if you're backing up important data, but Tom's Hardware said you should never write anything critical at faster than 4x. Apparantly there's just too much chance for error ... or at least it writes overall lower quality (less reliable redundancy of the pits, etc.)

A

I partially believe that.. But if its QUALITY disc, and its rate at a certain speed, i expect it too.. .

But I would still try several disc and check the quality and go from there..

It depends on the burner as well. AT will be posting a new review tomorrow of the latest NEC and Pioneer drives. From what I've read about the Pioneer, its burn quality is excellent at 8X. I would say that with quality media and a good burner, high speed burning should be fine. It seems as though 12X and 16X burning have a very minimal effect on burn times, so I would probably stick to 8X just to be safe.

 

[Yanagi]

welll 12X and 16X would probable be as having a cd-RW derive that burns 32X and up, wont really affect the time.. My 24X liteon still burns cds plenty fast for me. As long as a DVD doesnt take 15 minutes or over for me Im all good. Allthough i might be able to budge that number a bit when it comes to dual layer DVDS though

 

[mindblogg]

The Riteks might work at the speeds you want but make sure you get the media from choice locations like Newegg. I had a whole bunch of almost 40 Riteks DVDs thrown cause all of them turned out to be coasters. I bought them at the cheap ass merit-line store & whose customer service is aweful.

 

[Shagga]

This might help you. I have the Lite-On 1213-S which I bought by accident thinking it was a DL burner. Anyway, yesterday a hacked Sony DRU710A firmware was made avilable and I subsequently updated the Lite-On with it. Works like a charm. I can now in theory burn at 16x and 2.4x DL.

The Sony Drive recommends the following DVD's etc so it might be a good place to start. :

Firmware revision: BY01
Drive type: SOHW-1633S
File name: SONY_DRU_710A_BY01.BIN

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+R Media Codes (73)
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AML /001/00 [ 4x ]
AML /002/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
BeAll000/P40/00 [ 4x ]
BeAll000/P80/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
CMC MAG /E01/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
CMC MAG /F01/00 [ 4x ]
CMC MAG /F01/01 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
CMC MAG /M01/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x ]
CMC MAG /R01/00 [ 2.4x ]
DAXON /AZ1/00 [ 4x ]
DAXON /AZ2/00 [ 4x, 6x ]
DAXON /AZ3/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
DT-D02 /02 /00 [ 4x ]
DT-D03 /004/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
GSC502 /002/00 [ 4x ]
INFODISC/R10/02 [ 4x ]
INFODISC/R20/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
ISSM /001/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
LD /001/00 [ 2.4x ]
LD /A02/00 [ 4x ]
LD /S03/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
LONGTEN /002/00 [ 4x ]
MAXELL /001/00 [ 4x ]
MAXELL /002/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MAXELL /003/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MBIPG101/R03/00 [ 4x ]
MBIPG101/R04/01 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MCC /001/00 [ 2.4x ]
MCC /002/00 [ 4x ]
MCC /003/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MCC /004/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x ]
MPOMEDIA/001/00 [ 2.4x ]
MPOMEDIA/040/00 [ 4x ]
MPOMEDIA/080/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MUST /002/01 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MUST 002/ /02 [ 4x ]
NANYA /CHX/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
NANYA /CLX/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
NANYA /DR /00 [ 2.4x ]
NANYA /RJB/00 [ 4x ]
OPTODISC/OP1/00 [ 2.4x ]
OPTODISC/OP2/00 [ 2.4x ]
OPTODISC/OR4/00 [ 4x ]
OPTODISC/OR8/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
Philips /081/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PHILIPS /C08/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PHILIPS /C16/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
Plasmon /c01/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PRODISC /R01/00 [ 2.4x ]
PRODISC /R02/00 [ 4x ]
PRODISC /R03/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PRODISC /R04/04 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RICOHJPN/R00/00 [ 2.4x ]
RICOHJPN/R01/02 [ 4x ]
RICOHJPN/R02/03 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RICOHJPN/R03/04 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RITEK /M02/01 [ 4x ]
RITEK /R01/00 [ 2.4x ]
RITEK /R02/01 [ 4x ]
RITEK /R03/01 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RITEK /R03/02 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RITEK /R04/01 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
SKYMEDIA/R01/00 [ 2.4x ]
SONY /D01/00 [ 4x ]
SONY /D11/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
SONY /D21/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x ] Now there is a suprise!
TDK /001/00 [ 4x ]
TDK /002/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
TDK /003/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
VDSPMSAB/001/01 [ 4x ]
YUDEN000/T01/00 [ 4x ]
YUDEN000/T01/01 [ 4x ]
YUDEN000/T02/00 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]

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+R9 Media Codes (3)
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MKM /001/00 [ 2.4x ]
RICOHJPN/D00/01 [ 2.4x ]
RITEK /D01/01 [ 2.4x ]

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+RW Media Codes (25)
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CMC MAG /W01/00 [ 2.4x ]
CMC MAG /W02/00 [ 4x ]
DAXON /D41/00 [ 4x ]
DAXON /D42/00 [ 4x ]
INFODISC/A01/00 [ 2.4x ]
INFODISC/A10/00 [ 4x ]
MBIPG101/W03/00 [ 2.4x ]
MCC /A01/00 [ 2.4x ]
MKM /A02/00 [ 4x ]
NANYA /DRW/00 [ 4x ]
NANYASC /DRW/00 [ 2.4x ]
OPTODISC/OP1/00 [ 2.4x ]
OPTODISC/OP4/01 [ 4x ]
PHILIPS /010/02 [ 4x ]
PHILIPS /041/00 [ 4x ]
PRODISC /W01/00 [ 2.4x ]
PRODISC /W02/00 [ 4x ]
RICOHJPN/W01/00 [ 2.4x ]
RICOHJPN/W11/01 [ 4x ]
RITEK /001/01 [ 2.4x ]
RITEK /004/30 [ 4x ]
RITEK /W04/00 [ 4x ]
SENTINEL/W01/00 [ 2.4x ]
SENTINEL/W02/00 [ 4x ]
SONY /S11/00 [ 4x ]

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-R Media Codes (87)
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4M SYS 202C1/52 [ 4x ]
AML /52 [ 4x ]
AN30 /52 [ 4x ]
AN31 /52 [ 4x ]
AN32 /52 [ 4x ]
Auvistar /50 [ 2x ]
BeAll G00001/50 [ 2x ]
BeAll G40001/52 [ 4x ]
CMC MAG. /50 [ 2x ]
CMC MAG. AE1/52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
CMC MAG. AF1/52 [ 4x ]
DATA TRACK /52 [ 4x ]
DAXON004 /52 [ 4x ]
DAXON008 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
DKM_01 /52 [ 4x ]
Dvsn /52 [ 4x ]
FORNEX001 /50 [ 2x ]
FORNEX101 /52 [ 4x ]
FUJIFILM03 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
GSC001 /50 [ 2x ]
GSC001 /52 [ 4x ]
GSC002 /52 [ 4x ]
GSC003 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
INFODISC-R01/52 [ 4x ]
INFODISC-R20/52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
LD /50 [ 2x ]
LEADDATA /50 [ 2x ]
LEADDATA S03/52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
LEADDATA01 /52 [ 4x ]
LGE04 /52 [ 4x ]
LGE08 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
LONGTEN 001 /52 [ 4x ]
LONGTEN 009 /52 [ 4x ]
MAM4XG01 /52 [ 4x ]
MBI /50 [ 2x ]
MBI 01RG20 /52 [ 4x ]
MBI 03RG30 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MCC 00RG200 /50 [ 2x ]
MCC 01RG20 /52 [ 4x ]
MCC 02RG20 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
MCI4XG01 /52 [ 4x ]
MCIG01 /50 [ 2x ]
MEI 00V001 /50 [ 2x ]
MUST 001 /52 [ 4x ]
MXL RG01 /50 [ 2x ]
MXL RG02 /52 [ 4x ]
MXL RG03 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
NANYA-JC001 /52 [ 4x ]
ONIDTECH /52 [ 4x ]
OPTODISCK001/50 [ 2x ]
OPTODISCK001/52 [ 4x ]
OPTODISCR004/52 [ 4x ]
OPTODISCR008/52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
Plasmon1A /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
POSG04 /52 [ 4x ]
POSJ 01 /50 [ 2x ]
PRINCO /50 [ 2x ]
PRINCO /52 [ 4x ]
PRINCO8X01 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PRINCO8X02 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
ProdiscF01 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PRODISCG02 /50 [ 2x ]
ProdiscS03 /52 [ 4x ]
ProdiscS04 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
PVC001001 /00 [ 2x ]
PVCR001002 /52 [ 4x ]
RITEKG03 /50 [ 2x ]
RITEKG04 /52 [ 4x ]
RITEKG05 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
RITEKM02 /52 [ 4x ]
SKC Co.,Ltd./52 [ 4x ]
SONY /50 [ 2x ]
SONY04D1 /52 [ 4x ]
SONY08D1 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
TAIYOYUDEN /50 [ 2x ]
TAROKO-MX4 /52 [ 4x ]
TDKG02000000/50 [ 2x ]
TTG01 /52 [ 4x ]
TTG02 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
TTH01 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
TYG01 /52 [ 4x ]
TYG02 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
UME01 /52 [ 4x, 6x, 8x ]
VANGUARD /52 [ 4x ]
VDSPMSAB 01 /52 [ 4x ]
VDSP­SAB 01 /52 [ 4x ]
Yi Jhan 001 /52 [ 4x ]

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-RW Media Codes (28)
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CMCW02 /00 [ 2x ]
CMCW03 /00 [ 4x ]
DAXON_RW2X01/00 [ 2x ]
JVC/VictorT7/00 [ 1x ]
JVC0VictorD7/00 [ 4x ]
JVC_VictorW7/00 [ 2x ]
MCC 00RW11N9/00 [ 1x ]
MCC 01RW11n9/00 [ 2x ]
MCC 01RW4X /00 [ 4x ]
OPTODISCK001/20 [ 1x ]
OPTODISCK001/21 [ 2x ]
OPTODISCW002/21 [ 2x ]
OPTODISCW004/21 [ 4x ]
PRINCO /20 [ 1x ]
PRINCO /21 [ 2x ]
PRINCORW0004/31 [ 2x ]
Prodisc DW04/21 [ 2x ]
Prodisc DW06/00 [ 4x ]
ProdiscDVDRW/00 [ 1x ]
PVCW00D002K9/21 [ 2x ]
PVCW00V00245/00 [ 2x ]
RITEK000V11A/00 [ 1x ]
RITEKW01 /00 [ 2x ]
RITEKW04 /00 [ 2x ]
SONY000000U9/00 [ 1x ]
TDK501saku]3/20 [ 1x ]
TDK502sakuM3/00 [ 2x ]
TDK601saku /00 [ 4x ]

 

[bjc112]

Thanks for the Info..

NEC doing some good speeds..

TY 8x and it looks like the "Prodisc R04" will do 16x..

Can't seem to find them with that R04 code though..

Don't know where the best place to buy some TY DVD's are either...



The nice thing though, 16x only took 5:35...



With minimal errors it seemed..

 

[augiem]

I just ordered some TY's at Rima.com at the recommendation of guys on another msg board. They've got regular and inkjet printable 8x DVDs -- those 8x printables are kinda hard to find.

 

[bjc112]

Believe it or not, Mertline has some Hyundai disc apparently capable at 12x speeds..

12x

Reseller rating only shows about a 5.5 over 6 months though..

Wonder if they are shotty.

"60 day" Money back Guarantee

 

[bjc112]

Well read speeds are a lot better than my lite on..

4.25GB in 4:51




Write times seem a little high, about 9:30

Eager for 12 and 16x


Also found out my Memorex 8x -R's are Ritek media..

 

[Big Lar]

I wish I had something to add, but so far Nothing from the Egg

 

[bjc112]

Well thanks for the bump...

Newegg needs to up their selections of blank media.

 

[bjc112]

TTT....

Come on

 

[KristopherKubicki]

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2186


We have some sony media around here somewhere, but the D21 didnt burn at 16X. I dont think you can buy MCC 004 yet either so that is kind of a moot issue.

Kristopher

 

[Big Lar]

Well I got the Plextor today, and it came with a Verbatim rated 8x, but Writes 12x

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Big Lar
Well I got the Plextor today, and it came with a Verbatim rated 8x, but Writes 12x

Nice, did you check the disc for errors.. ?

 

[Big Lar]

Yup, No errors Tho I only burned 2.8 gigs tho, but it sure is smooth.
Edit; I checked the new disks I got from Plextor today, and Plex Manager says they are TY disks that write 12x.
"Yuden 000"

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Big Lar
Yup, No errors Tho I only burned 2.8 gigs tho, but it sure is smooth.
Edit; I checked the new disks I got from Plextor today, and Plex Manager says they are TY disks that write 12x.
"Yuden 000"

Cool, ill check into them..

Can't wait for faster media..

 

[klah]

The +R disc that came with my Plextor 712A burned at 12x with no errors.