DVD exploded in my drive.

SkyBum

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At least that's what it sounded like. I was able to retreive 3 large peices of the DVD but there is still some missing shards in there. Do many drives survive this? I'm gonna break it down and see if there is any obvious damage to the internals, clean the shards out etc....strange that they didnt come out in the tray though (from the sound it made, I wouldnt be surprised to find tiny bits and pieces sticking out the sides).

Anyone had a drive that survived this?
 

mwmorph

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? what's youre question? dvds can explode. low quality dvds will explode when spun up too fast too long(due to physical imbalances). im guessing it spins the disk at about 50x(cd read speed[aka about 16x dvd read speed]) speed. now thats nearing a hundred k rpm(if my math is right. if it's scratched, it'll spin for a while until it is read. a low quality dvd, due to a weight imbalance wil shatter under these circumstances.
 

SkyBum

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No idea on disc quality, it was a commercial disc though (Tenacious D: Masterworks).

I'll post results in a bit.....
 

AristoV300

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That sucks. Best thing you can do is try to clean it up and hope it didn't get damaged...
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: AristoV300
That sucks. Best thing you can do is try to clean it up and hope it didn't get damaged...


nah, time for a new dvd drive. no way youll clean up all the particles, wspically if some fell into the inside. sorry about it though. had a crappy cd destroy one of my cdrws a while back.
 

SkyBum

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Originally posted by: Budman
No big loss it's a Lite-on DVDRW. ;)

Hell, it's ripped and burned over 400 DVDs since October.....I got no beef with Lite-On.

 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Oh, you posted a question now, that's nice ;)

There's no harm in trying to clean it all up. If nothing scratched the lense inside and the alignment of everything is still ok, it might still work.

They did a mythbusters on this and they said that it was a myth. I knew that this had happened to people already and that it was something that actually happened. On the show, they ended up having to attach it to a super high rpm drill in order to get one to explode. Maybe the media they were using was too high quality.

I'm also thinking if there was a little crack in the disk already it would really make it a lot easier to break apart.

Good luck with the drive :)
 

villageidiot111

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I found a cracked cd on the sidewalk once, and wanted to hear what was on it. I put it in my old cd player, and it still worked. The music sucked so I threw it away though.
 

ssvegeta1010

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Jeez... Thats strange, but it could certaintly make an effective copy protection method. "Now with Exploding disc technology"
 

Baked

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Gives you an excuse to replace that passe Lite-On DVD writer w/ the new fan favorite NEC 3520A. Factory firmware limits playback speed to 2x for pressed DVD.

Were you ripping the DVD or playing it?
 

daniel49

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whew for a minute thought you were going to say it was a dvd of the "Mission Impossible Movie".

this reply will self destruct in 30 seconds.
poof
 

SkyBum

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Originally posted by: Baked
Gives you an excuse to replace that passe Lite-On DVD writer w/ the new fan favorite NEC 3520A. Factory firmware limits playback speed to 2x for pressed DVD.

True enough. I was just about to ask what to look at for a replacement.

Were you ripping the DVD or playing it?

I had just closed the drive and it was spinning up when I heard a sound that reminded me of when you run over something with a lawnmower. Damn, it made me jump it was so loud. At first I thought a shelf had fallen off the wall and then I realized what it was.

Anyhow, it's DOA. I recovered two more shards which accounted for all of the disc, but upon re-assembling it and re-installing it, it spins up the disc and then spins back down, but it can't recognize that there's a disc in it. The flying peices must have FU'd up the lens alignment or something. there was no visible damage of any kind. Guess I'm shopping for a new DVD burner....

OK. We have one recommendation on the table (NEC 3520a). Any more suggestions?

 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
Jeez... Thats strange, but it could certaintly make an effective copy protection method. "Now with Exploding disc technology"

Don't say that man.. they might just do that.. engineer the actual discs, to potentially fragment if exposed to the higher disc-spin speeds used for ripping. Would certainly give new meaning to the "rip lock" feature of some drives, they could rename that feature to "shatter proof", keeping the speeds below 2X read speeds, to keep your purchased discs from self-destructing on you.
 

SkyBum

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Well, looks like that NEC 3520A got poor marks for slow ripping due to and since ripping/writing is the primary purpose, I think I'll keep looking. Other that, it looks like a decent drive.

 

Cawchy87

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They did a mythbusters on this and they said that it was a myth. I knew that this had happened to people already and that it was something that actually happened. On the show, they ended up having to attach it to a super high rpm drill in order to get one to explode. Maybe the media they were using was too high quality.

I saw this as well. And they said that for an average disc you would have to crank up the rpm's to get it to break. But the one in many million may be very weak and break by normal use. It was a myth because it was so unlikely to happen.
 

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Actually since the DVD pretty much had to be defective to break apart like that (cheap, brittle polymers, etc.) I would see about getting the mfr of the disk to replace your drive if you find it is really broken.

.bh.

:moon:
 

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Originally posted by: SkyBum
Well, looks like that NEC 3520A got poor marks for slow ripping due to and since ripping/writing is the primary purpose, I think I'll keep looking. Other that, it looks like a decent drive.

Just upgrade the firmware with one that has RipLock removed.
 

SkyBum

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy

Just upgrade the firmware with one that has RipLock removed.



:shocked:
Now yer talkin'........tell me more!



Edit: Zepper, thats actually a great idea, but arent they just going to give me the 'ol yadda yadda about how they have no way of telling whether the disc was faulty or maybe I damaged it somehow. At best, they might replace the disc but I cant imagine them taking responsibilty for the drive. For all they know, I might have stepped on the disc right before inserting it.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: SkyBum
Well, looks like that NEC 3520A got poor marks for slow ripping due to and since ripping/writing is the primary purpose, I think I'll keep looking. Other that, it looks like a decent drive.

Not true. There are 2 different firmwares you can flash to. Locked and unlocked. See here.