Dumbledore was gay??

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: paulney
Reading this thread I realized that the only people worse than homophobes are homophiliacs.

for a second, I thought you had a problem with the Royals (inbred people with non-clotting blood), or even regular 'ol hemophiliacs in general. then I realized it wasn't a typo.

although...I do see the edit...

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: loki8481
as a writer, you frequently make up complex back stories for your characters in your head to help guide their actions and motivations, even if the back stories never make it into the actual story. it's just a tool to help you write better.

if, in JK Rowling's back story for Dumbledore, he was gay, why shouldn't she correct it if that's what she views as canon for the series?

Apparently it doesn't matter, and she should keep mum for fear of making people uncomfortable. Revealing aspects of a character to portray motivations is really just an overused literary device anyway. Deus ex machina is the way to go.

I agree. It's rather unorthodox (although not unheard of) for an author to offer interpretation into their stories/characters. Rather conceited of her, too. ...this stuff doesn't really warrant literary interpretation.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: BigJ
I don't look at the character any differently. It just felt like he was not a sexual being.

He wasn't, really. The only time we see him making that sort of connection with anyone was with Grindelwald, which, if memory serves, was set at least 50 years prior to our reading.

Even then, I really didn't even think of it as a sexual connection. The way she wrote it was as if they were just entranced by each other's genius.

replace genius with sweaty naked manbody and thats why they were so entranced!

 

[cKGunslinger]

Hey, remember at one of the Trekkie conventions, when asked what type of sub-space modulation was used in the Enterprise-D array, Roddenberry said that they *didn't* use modulation, but rather employed straight signals carried by tachyons particles via netherstrom gases?

OMFG! What a douche-bag attention whore! Just another example of that bastard promoting his pro-tachyon agenda - the same agenda that's DESTROYING OUR MORAL VALUES! Won't somebody think of the children! I mean, there was no need to answer the question. He should have just said "Fuck you, curious fan!." Just because I came here to answers questions, doesn't mean I have to do it!"

I'm sure Jesus was pro-modulation, so anything that differs with my limited understanding of the 10% of the bible I actually read, or with that of the total BS I've made up to support my own opinions must be WRONG! WRONG!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hey, remember at one of the Trekkie conventions, when asked what type of sub-space modulation was used in the Enterprise-D array, Roddenberry said that they *didn't* use modulation, but rather employed straight signals carried by tachyons particles via netherstrom gases?

OMFG! What a douche-bag attention whore! Just another example of that bastard promoting his pro-tachyon agenda - the same agenda that's DESTROYING OUR MORAL VALUES! Won't somebody think of the children! I mean, there was no need to answer the question. He should have just said "Fuck you, curious fan!." Just because I came here to answers questions, doesn't mean I have to do it!"

I'm sure Jesus was pro-modulation, so anything that differs with my limited understanding of the 10% of the bible I actually read, or with that of the total BS I've made up to support my own opinions must be WRONG! WRONG!

I, for one, welcome our Tachyon overloards.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

I, for one, welcome our Tachyon overloards.

More so than the crap responses from TFM or HoP, I'm interested in the actual ST fans who will point out the huge inaccuracies in my made-up story.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: zinfamous

I, for one, welcome our Tachyon overloards.

More so than the crap responses from TFM or HoP, I'm interested in the actual ST fans who will point out the huge inaccuracies in my made-up story.

I for one am glad to admit i am not enough of a nerd to argue about it! =)

 

[imported_Imp]

So if he was, so what? Unless there's a "side"-story about his relationship with Gandalf or Snake or whomever I don't know about.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Hey, remember at one of the Trekkie conventions, when asked what type of sub-space modulation was used in the Enterprise-D array, Roddenberry said that they *didn't* use modulation, but rather employed straight signals carried by tachyons particles via netherstrom gases?

OMFG! What a douche-bag attention whore! Just another example of that bastard promoting his pro-tachyon agenda - the same agenda that's DESTROYING OUR MORAL VALUES! Won't somebody think of the children! I mean, there was no need to answer the question. He should have just said "Fuck you, curious fan!." Just because I came here to answers questions, doesn't mean I have to do it!"

I'm sure Jesus was pro-modulation, so anything that differs with my limited understanding of the 10% of the bible I actually read, or with that of the total BS I've made up to support my own opinions must be WRONG! WRONG!

lmfao

 

[zoiks]

Who's dumbledore?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: zoiks
Who's dumbledore?

he is the gay guy who liked to spend a lot of time alone with harry and snape.

 

[xochi]

No jokes on Dumbledore's Elder Wand? So many possiblilites.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: zinfamous

I, for one, welcome our Tachyon overloards.

More so than the crap responses from TFM or HoP, I'm interested in the actual ST fans who will point out the huge inaccuracies in my made-up story.

I'm don't even know what a Tachyon is; but I'm sure they'll make excellent regional governors.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: zinfamous

I, for one, welcome our Tachyon overloards.

More so than the crap responses from TFM or HoP, I'm interested in the actual ST fans who will point out the huge inaccuracies in my made-up story.

I don't know about the technicalities, but I doubt rodenberry would be involved in technicalities, thus I'd say the problem is that it should have been rick berman or someone else "techie". I once had a weird book about technicalities in star trek written by some guy who probably would know the real inaccuracies.

 

[teclis1023]

I have read all of the books and enjoyed them. Certainly they weren't the most imaginative, but they were fun.

With that being said, I never saw a single bit of evidence to suggest that Dumbledore was straight or gay... It sounds to me like Rowlings was pandering to the crowd?

 

[z0mb13]

this puts a whole lot new meaning to the term: I put on my robe and wizard hat...

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Turin39789
why the hell would the book having a gay man in it make it unsuitable to be in a school?

Look at this list

Scary. I will never understand how people can still be so ignorant in the 21st century.

Books are works of art, and as such they obviously enclose all aspects of human life and behaviour. This doesn't mean they are meant to encourage any of those.

A few of the most important books ever written have a pedophile as the main character... so what? We stop studying Thomas Mann or Nabokov in school? How about a good 90% of all Greek philosophy? I guess these people would ban that too.

Ignorance really is miserable...

it's a list of challenged books, not banned books. lots of morons and special interests try to ban books these days, but it's not as easy as it used to be.

Evolution though, that shit needs to go.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Tango

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Turin39789
why the hell would the book having a gay man in it make it unsuitable to be in a school?

Look at this list

Scary. I will never understand how people can still be so ignorant in the 21st century.

Books are works of art, and as such they obviously enclose all aspects of human life and behaviour. This doesn't mean they are meant to encourage any of those.

A few of the most important books ever written have a pedophile as the main character... so what? We stop studying Thomas Mann or Nabokov in school? How about a good 90% of all Greek philosophy? I guess these people would ban that too.

Ignorance really is miserable...

it's a list of challenged books, not banned books. lots of morons and special interests try to ban books these days, but it's not as easy as it used to be.

Evolution though, that shit needs to go.

Yeah, I know. I find seriously scary that some people still exist that think books can be "dangerous"...

 

[FoBoT]

this guy? is this him?
http://www.pics.bbzzdd.com/bet...ers/doze/stacheguy.jpg

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: Squisher
This sounds like something fabricated as an afterthought to promote an agenda. It might be a worthy agenda, but it seems a little forced and disingenuous. I wonder if she would have revealed this at the outset of the series, before she made her money.

It's not just something she came out and said; it was required in order to stop the director from making a mistake with the 6th movie.

Although from what I understand, it isn't exactly as though there hasn't been a large number of inaccuracies in the films.

Although it matters not, Michael Gambon has already demolished the accurate portrayal of Dumbledore and he will continue to do so in the next two films regardless of sexual ambiguity.

I had suspicions about this after reading the last book, Rowling's description of the Dumbledore-Grindelwald relationship was a little suggestive, although she didn't make it obvious (there was no need to, in my opinion).

A fan asked her an important question, and she didn't lie about it, she told the truth. If this puts an ill taste in the mouth of any dedicated Harry Potter fan, then they never really grasped the true concept of the story. The opinions of those who were never fans in the first place aren't even worth listening to. This news is only important to the fans, I have no patience for anyone else.

I don't know a single person who has given the books a try and has not enjoyed them. Most Harry Potter bashers haven't, at the most, read past the first book. To be honest, most adult readers wouldn't be intrigued by the first and second books, and I cannot blame them for not finding the patience to continue with the series, but I would expect them to hold their tongues in discussions about it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Who gives a crap?