Dullard's College Football - Week 6, 2006

[dullard]

Place , Win Rating , Score Rating , W , L , Team name
01 , 60.0 , 57.2 , 5 , 0 , Southern Cal
02 , 55.5 , 60.9 , 6 , 0 , Florida
03 , 54.2 , 60.6 , 6 , 0 , Ohio State
04 , 51.7 , 58.0 , 6 , 0 , Michigan
05 , 47.5 , 54.5 , 6 , 0 , Boise St
06 , 47.2 , 57.9 , 5 , 1 , Tennessee
07 , 46.6 , 59.1 , 5 , 1 , California
08 , 46.6 , 44.3 , 5 , 1 , Notre Dame
09 , 46.2 , 47.6 , 5 , 1 , Iowa
10 , 45.9 , 38.7 , 4 , 1 , Arkansas
11 , 45.0 , 53.6 , 5 , 0 , Louisville
12 , 44.7 , 46.4 , 5 , 1 , Auburn
13 , 44.1 , 41.8 , 4 , 1 , Boston College
14 , 43.4 , 49.7 , 4 , 1 , Oregon
15 , 43.2 , 51.6 , 5 , 1 , Texas
16 , 43.2 , 40.3 , 4 , 2 , Washington
17 , 42.1 , 51.5 , 5 , 0 , West Virginia
18 , 41.9 , 45.2 , 4 , 1 , UCLA
19 , 41.4 , 44.4 , 5 , 1 , Clemson
20 , 40.6 , 44.0 , 5 , 1 , Navy
21 , 40.3 , 42.6 , 5 , 1 , Nebraska
22 , 39.6 , 45.2 , 6 , 0 , Missouri
23 , 39.6 , 39.8 , 4 , 1 , Tulsa
24 , 39.3 , 50.4 , 4 , 2 , LSU
25 , 39.3 , 40.2 , 4 , 2 , Washington St
26 , 39.2 , 36.8 , 5 , 0 , Rutgers
27 , 39.0 , 45.8 , 3 , 2 , Oklahoma
28 , 37.9 , 41.8 , 5 , 1 , Georgia
29 , 37.3 , 40.0 , 4 , 2 , Penn State
30 , 37.1 , 31.4 , 3 , 1 , San Jose St
31 , 36.2 , 43.8 , 4 , 2 , Brigham Young
32 , 36.2 , 39.0 , 5 , 1 , Georgia Tech
33 , 35.7 , 41.8 , 5 , 1 , Wisconsin
34 , 35.6 , 33.2 , 3 , 2 , North Carolina St
35 , 35.2 , 35.2 , 3 , 2 , Southern Miss
36 , 35.0 , 43.1 , 5 , 1 , Pittsburgh
37 , 35.0 , 34.2 , 5 , 1 , Wake Forest
38 , 34.6 , 36.2 , 5 , 1 , Texas A&M
39 , 33.8 , 38.1 , 4 , 2 , Alabama
40 , 33.3 , 40.7 , 4 , 1 , Virginia Tech
41 , 33.3 , 37.8 , 4 , 2 , Utah
42 , 32.2 , 38.3 , 3 , 2 , TCU
43 , 31.8 , 31.5 , 4 , 2 , South Carolina
44 , 31.7 , 36.3 , 3 , 2 , Florida St
45 , 31.5 , 34.7 , 4 , 2 , Texas Tech
46 , 31.4 , 43.5 , 2 , 2 , Air Force
47 , 31.1 , 31.2 , 4 , 2 , Kansas St
48 , 30.1 , 34.9 , 3 , 2 , Arizona St
49 , 30.0 , 31.5 , 3 , 2 , Miami FL
50 , 29.9 , 39.1 , 3 , 2 , Hawai`i
51 , 29.1 , 27.7 , 2 , 4 , Arizona
52 , 29.0 , 35.4 , 3 , 3 , Michigan St
53 , 29.0 , 35.4 , 2 , 3 , Oregon St
54 , 28.5 , 26.5 , 4 , 2 , Purdue
55 , 28.3 , 26.0 , 3 , 3 , Iowa St
56 , 27.9 , 30.4 , 3 , 3 , Kentucky
57 , 27.0 , 30.5 , 4 , 1 , Colorado St
58 , 26.7 , 31.2 , 4 , 2 , Houston
59 , 26.5 , 24.3 , 3 , 3 , Ohio U.
60 , 26.3 , 32.5 , 3 , 3 , Syracuse
61 , 26.1 , 26.8 , 3 , 3 , Central Michigan
62 , 25.8 , 28.7 , 4 , 2 , South Florida
63 , 25.1 , 28.2 , 3 , 2 , Maryland
64 , 24.7 , 25.5 , 2 , 3 , Central Florida
65 , 24.5 , 24.6 , 4 , 2 , Northern Illinois
66 , 24.4 , 36.0 , 2 , 4 , Minnesota
67 , 23.6 , 32.2 , 3 , 2 , Oklahoma St
68 , 23.6 , 18.0 , 3 , 3 , Bowling Green
69 , 23.5 , 26.0 , 3 , 3 , Cincinnati
70 , 23.4 , 25.5 , 3 , 3 , Alabama-Birmingham
71 , 23.3 , 24.9 , 4 , 2 , Kent St
72 , 23.0 , 29.3 , 3 , 3 , Baylor
73 , 22.8 , 31.2 , 2 , 3 , East Carolina
74 , 22.3 , 22.5 , 3 , 2 , UTEP
75 , 22.1 , 25.9 , 3 , 2 , Western Michigan
76 , 21.3 , 27.8 , 3 , 3 , Nevada
77 , 21.3 , 22.7 , 3 , 3 , Middle Tennessee St
78 , 21.2 , 20.2 , 3 , 3 , Indiana
79 , 21.1 , 21.8 , 2 , 4 , Illinois
80 , 21.1 , 16.3 , 3 , 2 , Louisiana-Lafayette
81 , 20.8 , 24.3 , 3 , 3 , Kansas
82 , 20.7 , 22.1 , 2 , 3 , Connecticut
83 , 20.4 , 20.1 , 3 , 3 , SMU
84 , 20.4 , 15.7 , 3 , 3 , Idaho
85 , 20.2 , 20.6 , 2 , 4 , Mississippi
86 , 20.1 , 27.5 , 2 , 4 , Vanderbilt
87 , 19.6 , 21.0 , 2 , 4 , Akron
88 , 19.6 , 16.6 , 2 , 3 , Tulane
89 , 19.6 , 8.8 , 1 , 4 , Louisiana Tech
90 , 18.6 , 31.4 , 2 , 4 , Wyoming
91 , 17.9 , 17.2 , 3 , 3 , Army
92 , 17.6 , 26.0 , 1 , 4 , Fresno St
93 , 17.5 , 21.6 , 1 , 4 , Marshall
94 , 17.5 , 13.8 , 3 , 2 , Arkansas St
95 , 17.5 , 13.5 , 0 , 6 , Stanford
96 , 17.4 , 16.1 , 1 , 5 , Mississippi St
97 , 17.0 , 14.5 , 1 , 4 , North Carolina
98 , 16.2 , 24.1 , 2 , 4 , Virginia
99 , 16.0 , 11.1 , 2 , 4 , North Texas
100 , 15.7 , 23.7 , 2 , 4 , New Mexico
101 , 14.9 , 19.2 , 1 , 5 , Rice
102 , 14.9 , 15.1 , 2 , 4 , Toledo
103 , 13.4 , 14.4 , 2 , 4 , Northwestern
104 , 12.8 , 6.8 , 1 , 5 , Utah St
105 , 12.5 , 15.7 , 1 , 4 , Troy
106 , 12.0 , 18.2 , 2 , 4 , Ball St
107 , 11.7 , 17.9 , 1 , 4 , Memphis
108 , 11.5 , 0.0 , 1 , 4 , Florida Atlantic
109 , 10.6 , 10.8 , 0 , 5 , San Diego St
110 , 10.0 , 14.2 , 1 , 4 , UNLV
111 , 9.2 , 14.2 , 2 , 3 , New Mexico St
112 , 8.7 , 4.3 , 1 , 4 , Buffalo
113 , 6.6 , 18.0 , 0 , 6 , Colorado
114 , 6.3 , 7.6 , 0 , 5 , Duke
115 , 2.7 , 4.4 , 1 , 4 , Louisiana-Monroe
116 , 2.0 , 9.5 , 0 , 6 , Miami OH
117 , 1.3 , 0.0 , 0 , 6 , Temple
118 , 0.7 , 9.0 , 0 , 6 , Florida Int'l
119 , 0.0 , 2.7 , 0 , 5 , Eastern Michigan
01 , 36.5 , 31.3 , 4 , 1 , Montana
02 , 30.9 , 33.3 , 5 , 1 , Appalachian St
03 , 30.8 , 22.5 , 5 , 1 , Cal Poly SLO
04 , 30.4 , 30.8 , 5 , 0 , New Hampshire
05 , 29.0 , 24.3 , 5 , 0 , North Dakota St
06 , 28.9 , 18.7 , 4 , 0 , Princeton
07 , 28.2 , 22.3 , 4 , 1 , Illinois St
08 , 27.7 , 36.4 , 4 , 1 , Massachusetts
09 , 26.8 , 27.1 , 5 , 1 , Youngstown St
10 , 25.5 , 15.9 , 4 , 0 , Harvard
11 , 24.6 , 14.0 , 4 , 1 , Towson
12 , 24.1 , 25.3 , 3 , 2 , Northern Iowa
13 , 23.6 , 20.5 , 4 , 1 , Richmond
14 , 23.3 , 24.1 , 4 , 1 , James Madison
15 , 22.3 , 20.8 , 5 , 0 , Southern Illinois
16 , 22.1 , 16.9 , 3 , 2 , Maine
17 , 21.4 , 9.2 , 2 , 3 , Sacramento St
18 , 21.3 , 4.3 , 5 , 0 , Charleston Southern
19 , 21.0 , 15.9 , 5 , 0 , San Diego
20 , 20.9 , 13.6 , 5 , 1 , Tennessee-Martin
21 , 19.3 , 21.0 , 3 , 3 , Portland St
22 , 19.2 , 12.8 , 6 , 0 , Hampton
23 , 18.8 , 7.2 , 3 , 3 , South Dakota St
24 , 17.2 , 11.5 , 3 , 2 , Elon
25 , 17.0 , 8.1 , 3 , 1 , Pennsylvania
26 , 16.9 , 3.4 , 3 , 1 , Yale
27 , 16.7 , 8.4 , 3 , 2 , Sam Houston St
28 , 15.7 , 18.6 , 2 , 3 , UC-Davis
29 , 15.5 , 2.1 , 4 , 1 , Alabama A&M
30 , 14.1 , 10.7 , 3 , 3 , Montana St
31 , 13.6 , 15.7 , 4 , 2 , Furman
32 , 13.5 , 0.5 , 3 , 2 , Gardner-Webb
33 , 13.4 , 18.4 , 3 , 2 , Jacksonville St
34 , 13.0 , 9.1 , 4 , 2 , Coastal Carolina
35 , 12.8 , 12.4 , 2 , 3 , Villanova
36 , 12.8 , 4.8 , 3 , 3 , Eastern Illinois
37 , 11.4 , 2.1 , 5 , 1 , Monmouth NJ
38 , 11.3 , 7.0 , 1 , 5 , Eastern Washington
39 , 11.3 , 3.9 , 2 , 3 , Nicholls St
40 , 11.2 , 7.0 , 3 , 1 , Columbia
41 , 11.1 , 7.4 , 2 , 3 , Northern Arizona
42 , 11.1 , 1.7 , 4 , 1 , Jackson St
43 , 11.0 , 5.0 , 2 , 4 , Northeastern
44 , 10.4 , 6.6 , 2 , 3 , Western Kentucky
45 , 10.2 , -7.4 , 3 , 2 , Florida A&M
46 , 10.1 , 5.9 , 3 , 2 , Liberty
47 , 9.2 , 1.0 , 4 , 2 , Holy Cross
48 , 9.0 , 7.3 , 2 , 3 , Hofstra
49 , 8.9 , 9.0 , 2 , 3 , Wofford
50 , 8.7 , 10.1 , 2 , 3 , Lehigh
51 , 8.6 , 4.6 , 2 , 4 , Weber St
52 , 8.5 , -5.1 , 6 , 0 , St John's MN
53 , 8.2 , -0.2 , 5 , 1 , Drake
54 , 7.8 , 3.3 , 2 , 3 , Lafayette
55 , 7.8 , -0.7 , 5 , 1 , Central Conn St
56 , 7.7 , -1.7 , 3 , 2 , Delaware St
57 , 7.4 , 0.2 , 2 , 3 , Northwestern St
58 , 7.3 , 8.5 , 2 , 3 , Colgate
59 , 7.0 , 1.5 , 1 , 4 , The Citadel
60 , 6.9 , 7.2 , 2 , 3 , Idaho St
61 , 6.9 , -2.5 , 2 , 3 , Tennessee St
62 , 6.3 , -5.3 , 3 , 3 , Bucknell
63 , 6.1 , 5.3 , 2 , 3 , Grambling St
64 , 5.7 , 4.2 , 2 , 3 , Georgia Southern
65 , 5.5 , 4.6 , 3 , 3 , Southern Utah
66 , 5.5 , 3.2 , 1 , 5 , Stephen F. Austin
67 , 4.6 , -4.0 , 3 , 2 , SE Missouri St
68 , 4.5 , 9.3 , 2 , 3 , Delaware
69 , 4.5 , -6.9 , 3 , 3 , Morgan St
70 , 4.3 , 1.9 , 2 , 4 , Chattanooga
71 , 4.2 , 4.1 , 2 , 3 , Rhode Island
72 , 4.0 , 0.0 , 2 , 4 , Stony Brook
73 , 4.0 , -4.8 , 2 , 3 , McNeese St
74 , 3.7 , 7.4 , 1 , 4 , William & Mary
75 , 3.6 , -0.6 , 3 , 3 , Albany NY
76 , 3.5 , 4.6 , 3 , 3 , Western Illinois
77 , 2.8 , -7.1 , 4 , 2 , Duquesne
78 , 2.5 , -6.7 , 2 , 4 , Tennessee Tech
79 , 2.5 , -10.4 , 4 , 2 , Robert Morris
80 , 2.3 , -3.6 , 3 , 3 , Southern U.
81 , 1.0 , -1.3 , 1 , 5 , Missouri St
82 , 0.8 , -3.9 , 1 , 5 , SE Louisiana St
83 , 0.4 , -7.9 , 3 , 3 , Mississippi Valley St
84 , 0.2 , -4.7 , 2 , 4 , Eastern Kentucky
85 , -0.6 , -6.5 , 1 , 5 , Murray St
86 , -0.6 , -8.1 , 2 , 3 , Davidson
87 , -1.0 , -7.3 , 2 , 4 , Samford
88 , -1.1 , -3.2 , 3 , 3 , Bethune-Cookman
89 , -1.1 , -14.3 , 2 , 3 , Texas Southern
90 , -1.3 , -0.6 , 2 , 3 , South Carolina St
91 , -1.7 , -2.3 , 1 , 3 , Brown
92 , -3.5 , -9.6 , 0 , 4 , Dartmouth
93 , -3.6 , -12.2 , 3 , 2 , Norfolk St
94 , -3.8 , -8.7 , 2 , 3 , Western Carolina
95 , -3.9 , -18.7 , 3 , 2 , Dayton
96 , -4.2 , -9.5 , 4 , 1 , Georgetown KY
97 , -4.2 , -10.6 , 2 , 3 , Arkansas-Pine Bluff
98 , -4.2 , -11.2 , 4 , 2 , Wagner
99 , -4.2 , -14.2 , 0 , 6 , Indiana St
100 , -4.9 , -18.2 , 1 , 4 , Howard
101 , -5.6 , -19.0 , 1 , 5 , VMI
102 , -5.7 , -12.6 , 1 , 4 , Fordham
103 , -5.8 , -12.8 , 2 , 4 , Alabama St
104 , -6.5 , -8.7 , 1 , 4 , Texas St-San Marcos
105 , -6.8 , -12.5 , 1 , 5 , Northern Colorado
106 , -6.9 , -25.6 , 2 , 3 , Jacksonville FL
107 , -9.0 , -16.5 , 2 , 4 , Sacred Heart
108 , -10.0 , -25.7 , 2 , 4 , Marist
109 , -10.6 , -17.5 , 2 , 4 , Prairie View A&M
110 , -11.1 , -19.7 , 2 , 3 , Alcorn St
111 , -11.9 , -32.1 , 2 , 4 , Butler
112 , -12.7 , -20.2 , 1 , 4 , Austin Peay
113 , -15.8 , -33.9 , 0 , 5 , North Carolina A&T
114 , -16.7 , -27.5 , 1 , 5 , Morehead St
115 , -17.1 , -32.3 , 2 , 4 , Valparaiso
116 , -18.0 , -23.0 , 1 , 5 , Iona
117 , -19.1 , -36.5 , 1 , 5 , St Francis PA
118 , -20.2 , -34.5 , 0 , 5 , Savannah St
119 , -20.6 , -36.9 , 1 , 4 , La Salle
120 , -23.4 , -39.2 , 2 , 4 , Cornell IA
121 , -23.9 , -45.6 , 0 , 5 , St Peter's

 

[slsmnaz]

A little better this week but Boise St.?? Also having Oregon ahead of Texas is crazy. Still seems a little stacked toward the PAC-10. I do like seeing UT so high up there though 😀

 

[rocadelpunk]

lol at florida state.

boo ohio state being 3rd : P

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
A little better this week but Boise St.?? Also having Oregon ahead of Texas is crazy. Still seems a little stacked toward the PAC-10. I do like seeing UT so high up there though 😀

What can I say? A couple years ago, people at ATOT complained and wanted me to give more credit to lossless teams. Now a lossless Boise St. is #5 in one rating and I get complaints. I can't please everyone. The adjustment I made is that all teams get -1 point for each loss. That -1 point put Tennessee, California, and Notre Dame below Boise St.

As for Oregon being 0.2 points ahead of Texas, it really isn't that bad. The score rating has Texas WAY ahead of Oregon.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
A little better this week but Boise St.?? Also having Oregon ahead of Texas is crazy. Still seems a little stacked toward the PAC-10. I do like seeing UT so high up there though 😀

seems like the win rating is a little puffed up at the moment. score rating seems more accurate. (although i've dropped USC out of my personal top 5 for the moment).


i think florida is a bit overrated. LSU isn't that good of a team. their offense is horrendous. and their defense isn't that great either (turns out auburn just has a craptacular offense, itself). and florida didn't beat them by that much at their own place. one thing is for sure, auburn is going to be out for blood this week.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
A little better this week but Boise St.?? Also having Oregon ahead of Texas is crazy. Still seems a little stacked toward the PAC-10. I do like seeing UT so high up there though 😀

What can I say? A couple years ago, people at ATOT complained and wanted me to give more credit to lossless teams. Now a lossless Boise St. is #5 in one rating and I get complaints. I can't please everyone. The adjustment I made is that all teams get -1 point for each loss. That -1 point put Tennessee, California, and Notre Dame below Boise St.

As for Oregon being 0.2 points ahead of Texas isn't that bad. The score rating has Texas WAY ahead of Oregon.

Hey, you put it out there and I'm just giving my ideas. 😉 I think it's a pretty good poll and it looks like it has the ability to make large corrections from week to week, unlike the human ones. Believe me, after hiding in shame last year I'm glad to be able to discuss CFB again.

I kinda agree w/ the weight of an undefeated record, it should also be weighed against the competition. I would view Tenn. (the team I know best), Tex, Cal, etc all better at 1-loss than a Boise w/ none. Just my $.02 but keep it up :thumbsup:

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
lol at florida state.

boo ohio state being 3rd : P

Also notice Miami too LOL. Agreed on OSU, they look good this year but it will all come down to the Mich game for them.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
(although i've dropped USC out of my personal top 5 for the moment).

What is the complaint with USC?
[*]They beat 4-1 Arkansas and Arkansas beat Alabama and Auburn.
[*]They beat 5-1 Nebraska (although Nebraska hasn't beaten anyone good yet).
[*]They beat 4-2 Washington (who's only other loss was to a good Oklahoma team).
[*]They beat 4-2 Washington St (who's only other loss was to a good Auburn team).

So far, USC has had a very difficult schedule and has given two good teams their only loss. So why shouldn't USC be in the top 5?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dullard

So far, USC has had a very difficult schedule and has given two good teams their only loss. So why shouldn't USC be in the top 5?

i think there are 5 teams that are better than USC.

ohio state
florida
michigan
wv
texas

washington stood a decent chance of beating them on their own turf if they had their 3 seconds back. washington hasn't beaten anyone. neither has nebraska. usc looks very vulnerable, and i think they're going to lose to either oregon or cal, if not both. they might lose to notre dame to boot.

i wonder what odds vegas is giving that USC loses 2 of those 3 games?

as for arkansas, that was the biggest trap game auburn had on its schedule. no, i don't think they have any offense, but the way they got completely outplayed tells me that they were looking ahead big time.

alabama was trailing to duke.

re: washington state, i think your definition of good and mine are different. wazzou let auburn's craptacular offense roll up more points against them than buffalo did.

 

[kalster]

no way wv is better than USC, i would agree besides osu, florida, michigan look a bit stronger at this point, but Louisville and wv havent beaten a good team as yet.

 

[JohnCU]

dude, no way clemson is #19. #12 in every other poll in the country, making us the top ranked ACC team. we were down 17-3 and came back with 24 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, against undefeated wake forest (they hadn't played anyone though) this past weekend and our only loss is to BC by 1 point.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
dude, no way clemson is #19. #12 in every other poll in the country, making us the top ranked ACC team. we were down 17-3 and came back with 24 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, against undefeated wake forest (they hadn't played anyone though) this past weekend and our only loss is to BC by 1 point.

Is that really your argument, Wake Forest???

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: JohnCU
dude, no way clemson is #19. #12 in every other poll in the country, making us the top ranked ACC team. we were down 17-3 and came back with 24 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, against undefeated wake forest (they hadn't played anyone though) this past weekend and our only loss is to BC by 1 point.

Is that really your argument, Wake Forest???

Whose to say they aren't actually fairly good?

 

[MrCodeDude]

The fact that you have USC as #1 is pretty weak.

Ohio State, yes. They've beaten both #2 Texas and #13 Iowa by considerable margins, #24 Penn State too. Florida, yes. They've beaten both #11 Tennessee and #9 LSU.

USC has struggled against both Washington State and Washington the past two weeks, they don't look anywhere near Ohio State or Florida.

05 - Boise St
11 - Louisville
17 - West Virginia

There is obviously something wrong here.

 

[Tom]

How did Ohio State lose 5 win rating points since last week ?

btw, Ohio State has played a more difficult schedule than USC, and won more handily, imo.

 

[mitaiwan82]

my top 5:
Texas
Ohio State
Florida
Michigan
Tennessee

ya in that order 😀

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Tom
How did Ohio State lose 5 win rating points since last week ?

btw, Ohio State has played a more difficult schedule than USC, and won more handily, imo.

A lot of teams lost ~5 points (look at Florida, Michigan, Boise St, etc, the undefeateds almost all lost ~5). The points are scaled so that the bottom team gets a 0 score. The bottom team moved up 5 points. Thus, all other teams were scaled down by ~5. It wasn't Ohio State that moved, but it was Eastern Michigan that moved.

USC, on the other hand, didn't lose the ~5 points. I can't quite explain it. But USC has a much harder schedule so far than any other top team. Ohio State included. Don't just take my word though. Sagarin also says that USC's schedule was much tougher.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kalster
no way wv is better than USC, i would agree besides osu, florida, michigan look a bit stronger at this point, but Louisville and wv havent beaten a good team as yet.

wv gets style points. they have yet to allow a team they should be dominating hang with them until time expires. USC has both the last two weeks.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wv gets style points. they have yet to allow a team they should be dominating hang with them until time expires. USC has both the last two weeks.

The key is that USC won. And USC played a much tougher schedule. Think about Ohio State when they won their last championship - they were losing in about half of their games with a minute or so left. A good team pulls out the win in a tough situation.

 

[foghorn67]

USC no.1????

 

[mpitts]

People here don't give USC credit because they all think that the PAC-10 is weak. The truth is that it isn't. USC will probably wind up with one of the five toughest schedules in the nation. USC is going to have their tests against Notre Dame and California.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: slsmnaz

Originally posted by: JohnCU
dude, no way clemson is #19. #12 in every other poll in the country, making us the top ranked ACC team. we were down 17-3 and came back with 24 unanswered points in the 4th quarter, against undefeated wake forest (they hadn't played anyone though) this past weekend and our only loss is to BC by 1 point.

Is that really your argument, Wake Forest???

we beat FSU when they were #9. we have scored over 50 points in 3 games this year.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: ElFenix
wv gets style points. they have yet to allow a team they should be dominating hang with them until time expires. USC has both the last two weeks.

The key is that USC won. And USC played a much tougher schedule. Think about Ohio State when they won their last championship - they were losing in about half of their games with a minute or so left. A good team pulls out the win in a tough situation.

i dunno if it's actually much tougher though. the only team that they've played so far that has beaten anyone of consequence is arkansas.

i guess i could do the same and say that the only team ohio state has played that has beaten anyone of consequence is texas.

but one of each doesn't mean USC has had a 'much tougher' schedule. none of the other teams on USC's and OSU's schedule are all that great. i'd say iowa is probably better than nebraska, but i'm not sure of it. give them 10 games iowa probably wins 6.

Originally posted by: JohnCU

we beat FSU when they were #9. we have scored over 50 points in 3 games this year.

i don't like this 'when they were' stuff. FSU is a middle of the pack football team at best this year. it's like when goalposts came down when texas went 4-7 in 1997. oh boy you beat a crappy football team!

Originally posted by: mpitts
People here don't give USC credit because they all think that the PAC-10 is weak. The truth is that it isn't. USC will probably wind up with one of the five toughest schedules in the nation. USC is going to have their tests against Notre Dame and California.

as i just explained, USC has only played 1 team who has beaten anyone else this year. until they beat oregon, cal, and notre lame, their schedule isn't really any more difficult than anyone else's.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: kalster
no way wv is better than USC, i would agree besides osu, florida, michigan look a bit stronger at this point, but Louisville and wv havent beaten a good team as yet.

wv gets style points. they have yet to allow a team they should be dominating hang with them until time expires. USC has both the last two weeks.

usc did this to some degree in the years it won NC as well, stanford in 04, cal in 04. i guess people are used to seeing it totally dominate teams and dont like the close calls

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kalster

usc did this to some degree in the years it won NC as well, stanford in 04, cal in 04. i guess people are used to seeing it totally dominate teams and dont like the close calls

while that may be the case (and yes, ohio state did it all the time the year they beat miami), until we have a showdown on the field i'm taking the team that is putting away the opponents they should be putting away. of course, that might be dumb because USC now has all this close game experience. or, maybe it just means that USC isn't that much better than the teams it should be (and isn't) dominating. that has to be the more usual case, doesn't it?