Dullard's College Football - Week 11, 2006

[dullard]

Before I get the top 3 complaints, I'll attempt to head them off. One of the optimizations places OSU in #1 and Michigan in #3. The other optimization puts Michigan at #1 and OSU at #3. Both put USC at #2. When I put them in order here, I average the Win Rating and the Score Rating. For all intents, OSU, USC, and Michigan are TIED. They can't really get any closer than they are. Thus, don't come in here and complain about the order of #1, #2, or #3. There is a big chasm below those three teams.

Place , Win Rating / Win Place , Score Rating / Score Place , W , L , Team name
01 , 63.5 / 03 , 65.8 / 01 , 11 , 0 , Ohio State
01 , 66.1 / 02 , 62.6 / 02 , 8 , 1 , Southern Cal
01 , 67.0 / 01 , 61.5 / 03 , 11 , 0 , Michigan
04 , 62.8 / 04 , 58.2 / 07 , 9 , 1 , Florida
05 , 60.3 / 07 , 59.1 / 04 , 8 , 2 , California
06 , 60.0 / 08 , 58.9 / 06 , 8 , 1 , Louisville
07 , 61.9 / 06 , 55.2 / 09 , 9 , 0 , Rutgers
08 , 62.3 / 05 , 53.7 / 10 , 9 , 1 , Notre Dame
09 , 55.0 / 13 , 59.1 / 05 , 8 , 2 , LSU
10 , 56.0 / 11 , 57.7 / 08 , 8 , 1 , West Virginia
11 , 56.5 / 09 , 53.5 / 11 , 10 , 1 , Wisconsin
12 , 56.2 / 10 , 53.0 / 13 , 10 , 0 , Boise St
13 , 55.3 / 12 , 50.7 / 17 , 9 , 1 , Arkansas
14 , 52.0 / 16 , 53.4 / 12 , 9 , 2 , Texas
15 , 54.4 / 14 , 50.8 / 16 , 9 , 2 , Auburn
16 , 53.0 / 15 , 50.3 / 19 , 7 , 3 , Oregon
17 , 51.3 / 19 , 51.8 / 15 , 7 , 3 , Tennessee
18 , 51.6 / 18 , 50.4 / 18 , 8 , 2 , Oklahoma
19 , 50.0 / 22 , 50.0 / 20 , 8 , 2 , Virginia Tech
20 , 51.3 / 20 , 48.6 / 21 , 8 , 2 , Boston College
21 , 46.3 / 27 , 52.6 / 14 , 8 , 2 , Brigham Young
22 , 52.0 / 17 , 45.4 / 25 , 9 , 1 , Wake Forest
23 , 47.6 / 24 , 47.7 / 22 , 8 , 3 , Clemson
24 , 50.8 / 21 , 43.0 / 29 , 8 , 2 , Georgia Tech
25 , 46.3 / 28 , 45.7 / 24 , 8 , 3 , Nebraska
26 , 47.5 / 25 , 43.9 / 27 , 6 , 4 , Oregon St
27 , 46.7 / 26 , 44.3 / 26 , 7 , 4 , Penn State
28 , 45.3 / 30 , 42.7 / 31 , 6 , 4 , Arizona St
29 , 49.0 / 23 , 38.8 / 40 , 8 , 2 , Maryland
30 , 41.4 / 39 , 46.2 / 23 , 8 , 2 , Hawai`i
31 , 45.6 / 29 , 39.9 / 39 , 7 , 3 , Navy
32 , 45.0 / 31 , 40.5 / 36 , 6 , 5 , Washington St
33 , 42.2 / 35 , 43.3 / 28 , 7 , 3 , Missouri
34 , 42.6 / 32 , 42.4 / 32 , 5 , 5 , UCLA
35 , 41.9 / 36 , 42.9 / 30 , 7 , 4 , Georgia
36 , 42.3 / 34 , 41.3 / 33 , 8 , 3 , Texas A&M
37 , 41.9 / 37 , 41.0 / 34 , 7 , 2 , TCU
38 , 42.6 / 33 , 37.1 / 47 , 6 , 4 , Kentucky
39 , 39.0 / 45 , 40.5 / 37 , 5 , 5 , South Carolina
40 , 41.8 / 38 , 36.8 / 48 , 5 , 5 , Arizona
41 , 39.9 / 42 , 38.1 / 44 , 7 , 3 , Tulsa
42 , 39.2 / 44 , 38.3 / 42 , 8 , 3 , Houston
43 , 38.9 / 46 , 38.4 / 41 , 6 , 5 , Iowa
44 , 36.5 / 50 , 40.4 / 38 , 6 , 4 , Pittsburgh
45 , 36.4 / 51 , 40.5 / 35 , 6 , 4 , Oklahoma St
46 , 41.2 / 40 , 35.3 / 52 , 7 , 3 , Central Michigan
47 , 40.0 / 41 , 36.5 / 50 , 7 , 4 , Kansas St
48 , 39.4 / 43 , 37.1 / 46 , 7 , 3 , South Florida
49 , 35.6 / 54 , 38.2 / 43 , 7 , 3 , Nevada
50 , 37.8 / 49 , 36.0 / 51 , 5 , 6 , Minnesota
51 , 34.9 / 57 , 38.0 / 45 , 6 , 5 , Alabama
52 , 34.8 / 59 , 36.5 / 49 , 5 , 5 , Florida St
53 , 38.4 / 47 , 32.4 / 60 , 7 , 4 , Purdue
54 , 35.4 / 55 , 35.0 / 53 , 5 , 5 , Cincinnati
55 , 38.4 / 48 , 31.4 / 63 , 7 , 3 , Ohio U.
56 , 35.9 / 53 , 32.0 / 62 , 6 , 3 , San Jos? St
57 , 35.0 / 56 , 32.7 / 58 , 6 , 4 , Southern Miss
58 , 34.5 / 62 , 32.6 / 59 , 4 , 7 , Washington
59 , 34.8 / 60 , 32.2 / 61 , 6 , 4 , East Carolina
60 , 32.2 / 65 , 34.4 / 54 , 6 , 4 , Utah
61 , 36.1 / 52 , 30.3 / 64 , 7 , 3 , Middle Tennessee St
62 , 32.0 / 66 , 34.3 / 55 , 6 , 5 , Texas Tech
63 , 32.2 / 64 , 33.0 / 56 , 5 , 5 , Miami FL
64 , 34.9 / 58 , 29.3 / 66 , 4 , 5 , Connecticut
65 , 30.9 / 67 , 32.9 / 57 , 4 , 5 , Air Force
66 , 34.8 / 61 , 28.3 / 69 , 7 , 3 , Western Michigan
67 , 34.3 / 63 , 26.3 / 73 , 5 , 6 , Indiana
68 , 27.3 / 71 , 29.7 / 65 , 4 , 7 , Vanderbilt
69 , 28.6 / 69 , 27.7 / 71 , 4 , 7 , Michigan St
70 , 30.4 / 68 , 25.8 / 74 , 5 , 5 , Rice
71 , 27.3 / 72 , 28.1 / 70 , 3 , 7 , North Carolina St
72 , 25.8 / 76 , 29.2 / 67 , 5 , 5 , Kansas
73 , 26.4 / 73 , 28.4 / 68 , 5 , 6 , Wyoming
74 , 26.3 / 74 , 25.3 / 76 , 4 , 6 , Virginia
75 , 24.5 / 81 , 26.8 / 72 , 3 , 7 , Syracuse
76 , 25.9 / 75 , 25.0 / 77 , 5 , 5 , New Mexico
77 , 25.6 / 77 , 24.9 / 78 , 5 , 5 , UTEP
78 , 24.9 / 79 , 25.4 / 75 , 3 , 7 , Mississippi St
79 , 27.5 / 70 , 21.1 / 86 , 5 , 4 , Troy
80 , 24.0 / 82 , 24.5 / 79 , 5 , 5 , Northern Illinois
81 , 24.6 / 80 , 22.6 / 81 , 5 , 5 , SMU
82 , 25.1 / 78 , 21.6 / 83 , 5 , 5 , Akron
83 , 23.2 / 84 , 21.3 / 84 , 3 , 7 , Mississippi
84 , 23.8 / 83 , 20.4 / 89 , 5 , 5 , Kent St
85 , 22.5 / 86 , 21.2 / 85 , 4 , 7 , Baylor
86 , 20.5 / 93 , 22.3 / 82 , 2 , 9 , Illinois
87 , 22.4 / 87 , 20.3 / 90 , 3 , 8 , Northwestern
88 , 21.4 / 89 , 21.0 / 87 , 4 , 6 , Marshall
89 , 18.7 / 97 , 22.6 / 80 , 4 , 6 , Colorado St
90 , 17.9 / 101 , 20.6 / 88 , 3 , 7 , Ball St
91 , 18.2 / 100 , 19.8 / 91 , 2 , 7 , Fresno St
92 , 22.0 / 88 , 14.7 / 98 , 1 , 9 , Stanford
93 , 22.7 / 85 , 13.4 / 103 , 4 , 6 , Idaho
94 , 19.8 / 95 , 16.3 / 95 , 3 , 7 , Central Florida
95 , 21.2 / 92 , 14.6 / 99 , 4 , 5 , Louisiana-Lafayette
96 , 21.3 / 90 , 13.7 / 102 , 4 , 6 , Bowling Green
97 , 17.0 / 102 , 17.8 / 93 , 3 , 7 , Alabama-Birmingham
98 , 20.0 / 94 , 14.5 / 100 , 3 , 7 , Tulane
99 , 18.9 / 96 , 15.6 / 97 , 4 , 6 , Toledo
100 , 18.7 / 99 , 15.7 / 96 , 1 , 9 , North Carolina
101 , 21.3 / 91 , 12.0 / 104 , 5 , 5 , Arkansas St
102 , 13.4 / 108 , 19.7 / 92 , 2 , 9 , Colorado
103 , 15.2 / 105 , 16.8 / 94 , 2 , 7 , San Diego St
104 , 17.0 / 103 , 13.9 / 101 , 3 , 8 , Iowa St
105 , 15.6 / 104 , 9.9 / 108 , 3 , 7 , Florida Atlantic
106 , 18.7 / 98 , 6.5 / 114 , 3 , 7 , Louisiana Tech
107 , 14.2 / 107 , 10.6 / 106 , 3 , 7 , Army
108 , 14.4 / 106 , 7.2 / 111 , 3 , 7 , North Texas
109 , 8.3 / 111 , 10.4 / 107 , 2 , 7 , Louisiana-Monroe
110 , 6.7 / 113 , 11.1 / 105 , 2 , 8 , New Mexico St
111 , 9.3 / 109 , 4.9 / 116 , 2 , 8 , Buffalo
112 , 6.7 / 114 , 6.6 / 113 , 0 , 10 , Duke
113 , 3.1 / 118 , 8.8 / 109 , 1 , 9 , Miami OH
114 , 5.7 / 115 , 5.3 / 115 , 1 , 9 , Eastern Michigan
115 , 3.5 / 116 , 7.2 / 110 , 1 , 9 , UNLV
116 , 8.4 / 110 , 2.0 / 117 , 1 , 9 , Utah St
117 , 3.3 / 117 , 6.6 / 112 , 1 , 9 , Memphis
118 , 8.2 / 112 , 1.2 / 118 , 1 , 10 , Temple
119 , 0.0 / 119 , 0.0 / 119 , 0 , 9 , Florida Int'l

01 , 43.1 / 120 , 37.3 / 120 , 9 , 1 , Massachusetts
02 , 37.7 / 122 , 33.5 / 122 , 9 , 1 , North Dakota St
03 , 36.1 / 123 , 33.8 / 121 , 10 , 1 , Appalachian St
04 , 40.1 / 121 , 27.6 / 125 , 9 , 1 , Montana
05 , 35.8 / 124 , 30.1 / 123 , 9 , 2 , Youngstown St
06 , 33.6 / 126 , 29.5 / 124 , 8 , 2 , James Madison
07 , 33.6 / 127 , 27.5 / 126 , 8 , 2 , Illinois St
08 , 28.8 / 130 , 25.5 / 127 , 7 , 3 , New Hampshire
09 , 29.8 / 129 , 22.0 / 128 , 7 , 4 , Portland St
10 , 34.2 / 125 , 16.0 / 139 , 7 , 1 , Princeton
11 , 25.9 / 134 , 21.2 / 129 , 6 , 4 , Maine
12 , 25.5 / 136 , 21.1 / 130 , 7 , 3 , Southern Illinois
13 , 28.7 / 131 , 17.4 / 136 , 7 , 2 , Harvard
14 , 32.3 / 128 , 13.4 / 142 , 7 , 1 , Yale
15 , 27.0 / 132 , 17.8 / 135 , 7 , 3 , Towson
16 , 25.3 / 138 , 17.8 / 134 , 10 , 1 , Hampton
17 , 25.6 / 135 , 16.8 / 137 , 6 , 4 , Cal Poly SLO
18 , 23.2 / 142 , 18.3 / 133 , 6 , 4 , Northern Iowa
19 , 21.2 / 144 , 20.2 / 131 , 6 , 4 , Wofford
20 , 24.1 / 139 , 16.6 / 138 , 8 , 3 , Furman
21 , 20.1 / 147 , 18.8 / 132 , 4 , 5 , UC-Davis
22 , 26.9 / 133 , 11.8 / 148 , 7 , 3 , South Dakota St
23 , 24.0 / 140 , 14.0 / 141 , 8 , 2 , Coastal Carolina
24 , 25.4 / 137 , 12.1 / 146 , 7 , 3 , Montana St
25 , 21.1 / 145 , 15.2 / 140 , 10 , 0 , San Diego
26 , 24.0 / 141 , 12.0 / 147 , 8 , 2 , Tennessee-Martin
27 , 20.5 / 146 , 13.1 / 143 , 5 , 5 , Villanova
28 , 18.5 / 152 , 12.2 / 145 , 5 , 5 , Northern Arizona
29 , 19.7 / 148 , 10.6 / 152 , 7 , 4 , Eastern Illinois
30 , 17.9 / 154 , 11.1 / 151 , 6 , 4 , Lehigh
31 , 16.3 / 158 , 12.5 / 144 , 5 , 5 , Richmond
32 , 18.7 / 151 , 9.8 / 154 , 4 , 6 , Northeastern
33 , 17.0 / 156 , 11.2 / 150 , 5 , 5 , Western Kentucky
34 , 15.4 / 160 , 11.4 / 149 , 6 , 4 , Jacksonville St
35 , 18.4 / 153 , 8.3 / 155 , 5 , 4 , Pennsylvania
36 , 21.7 / 143 , 4.4 / 163 , 9 , 1 , Charleston Southern
37 , 15.4 / 159 , 10.3 / 153 , 5 , 5 , Delaware
38 , 18.8 / 150 , 6.3 / 160 , 10 , 1 , Monmouth NJ
39 , 16.8 / 157 , 7.8 / 157 , 6 , 4 , Sam Houston St
40 , 17.9 / 155 , 6.3 / 159 , 8 , 2 , Delaware St
41 , 19.7 / 149 , 3.6 / 170 , 8 , 2 , Alabama A&M
42 , 15.0 / 163 , 8.2 / 156 , 6 , 4 , South Carolina St
43 , 15.2 / 161 , 4.3 / 165 , 6 , 4 , Tennessee St
44 , 11.4 / 170 , 6.9 / 158 , 5 , 5 , Elon
45 , 13.3 / 166 , 3.9 / 167 , 4 , 6 , Rhode Island
46 , 13.8 / 165 , 3.2 / 171 , 6 , 4 , McNeese St
47 , 13.8 / 164 , 2.7 / 173 , 4 , 6 , Sacramento St
48 , 15.1 / 162 , 0.8 / 177 , 7 , 3 , Arkansas-Pine Bluff
49 , 8.9 / 174 , 5.6 / 162 , 3 , 7 , William & Mary
50 , 12.7 / 168 , 1.4 / 174 , 7 , 4 , Holy Cross
51 , 8.0 / 179 , 6.0 / 161 , 5 , 6 , Western Illinois
52 , 10.0 / 171 , 3.0 / 172 , 4 , 6 , The Citadel
53 , 8.4 / 175 , 3.7 / 169 , 3 , 8 , Eastern Washington
54 , 7.5 / 180 , 4.1 / 166 , 5 , 5 , Liberty
55 , 6.7 / 182 , 4.3 / 164 , 3 , 7 , Stephen F. Austin
56 , 9.6 / 172 , 1.2 / 175 , 5 , 5 , Eastern Kentucky
57 , 13.2 / 167 , -3.1 / 186 , 6 , 4 , Florida A&M
58 , 9.0 / 173 , 1.1 / 176 , 5 , 5 , Lafayette
59 , 8.4 / 176 , -0.5 / 181 , 7 , 4 , Albany NY
60 , 3.7 / 190 , 3.9 / 168 , 3 , 7 , Georgia Southern
61 , 7.4 / 181 , 0.0 / 180 , 8 , 3 , Central Conn St
62 , 12.1 / 169 , -4.8 / 196 , 6 , 4 , Gardner-Webb
63 , 5.9 / 184 , 0.0 / 179 , 3 , 7 , Weber St
64 , 5.9 / 185 , -1.2 / 182 , 4 , 6 , Colgate
65 , 8.1 / 177 , -3.5 / 190 , 9 , 1 , St John's MN
66 , 8.1 / 178 , -3.7 / 191 , 9 , 2 , Drake
67 , 5.7 / 186 , -2.1 / 185 , 3 , 6 , Brown
68 , 4.6 / 188 , -2.0 / 183 , 4 , 6 , Northwestern St
69 , 6.5 / 183 , -4.4 / 193 , 6 , 4 , Jackson St
70 , 0.8 / 202 , 0.7 / 178 , 2 , 8 , Hofstra
71 , 3.3 / 194 , -3.2 / 189 , 4 , 6 , Nicholls St
72 , 1.7 / 198 , -2.0 / 184 , 3 , 7 , Southern Utah
73 , 5.3 / 187 , -6.0 / 198 , 4 , 5 , Columbia
74 , 1.0 / 201 , -3.2 / 188 , 4 , 6 , Texas St-San Marcos
75 , -0.3 / 206 , -3.1 / 187 , 3 , 6 , Grambling St
76 , 3.6 / 191 , -7.5 / 201 , 5 , 5 , Alabama St
77 , 2.8 / 196 , -6.8 / 200 , 7 , 4 , Robert Morris
78 , 1.3 / 200 , -6.0 / 197 , 5 , 5 , Bethune-Cookman
79 , 3.0 / 195 , -8.2 / 202 , 4 , 6 , SE Missouri St
80 , 4.1 / 189 , -9.4 / 208 , 5 , 5 , Bucknell
81 , -0.9 / 208 , -4.5 / 194 , 2 , 8 , Idaho St
82 , -1.7 / 209 , -3.8 / 192 , 3 , 8 , Chattanooga
83 , 3.3 / 193 , -8.9 / 205 , 5 , 6 , Morgan St
84 , 0.5 / 203 , -6.7 / 199 , 5 , 6 , Stony Brook
85 , -2.0 / 212 , -4.7 / 195 , 2 , 9 , Missouri St
86 , 3.4 / 192 , -10.4 / 211 , 6 , 5 , Mississippi Valley St
87 , 1.4 / 199 , -8.9 / 204 , 4 , 6 , Howard
88 , 0.4 / 204 , -9.4 / 207 , 9 , 1 , Georgetown KY
89 , -0.1 / 205 , -9.2 / 206 , 2 , 7 , Dartmouth
90 , -0.3 / 207 , -9.8 / 209 , 3 , 7 , Tennessee Tech
91 , -1.8 / 211 , -10.2 / 210 , 7 , 3 , Duquesne
92 , -2.4 / 213 , -10.7 / 212 , 4 , 6 , Southern U.
93 , -1.8 / 210 , -11.6 / 215 , 6 , 4 , Davidson
94 , -3.0 / 214 , -11.5 / 214 , 4 , 5 , Alcorn St
95 , -5.0 / 215 , -11.4 / 213 , 3 , 8 , Samford
96 , -6.2 / 216 , -14.5 / 218 , 1 , 10 , Indiana St
97 , -8.2 / 218 , -13.5 / 217 , 2 , 9 , SE Louisiana St
98 , -9.5 / 220 , -12.5 / 216 , 2 , 8 , Western Carolina
99 , -8.2 / 217 , -16.5 / 219 , 1 , 9 , Northern Colorado
100 , -9.2 / 219 , -17.3 / 221 , 3 , 7 , Norfolk St
101 , -10.6 / 222 , -17.1 / 220 , 1 , 9 , Murray St
102 , -9.9 / 221 , -20.1 / 222 , 3 , 7 , Texas Southern
103 , -11.3 / 223 , -21.6 / 223 , 1 , 9 , VMI
104 , -12.2 / 224 , -22.8 / 224 , 2 , 8 , Fordham
105 , -14.7 / 226 , -23.3 / 225 , 4 , 6 , Dayton
106 , -12.3 / 225 , -29.3 / 229 , 4 , 6 , Jacksonville FL
107 , -19.5 / 230 , -24.6 / 226 , 2 , 8 , Prairie View A&M
108 , -17.5 / 227 , -27.4 / 228 , 4 , 7 , Wagner
109 , -20.1 / 231 , -26.2 / 227 , 3 , 7 , Austin Peay
110 , -18.9 / 229 , -31.7 / 231 , 4 , 7 , Marist
111 , -18.5 / 228 , -32.4 / 233 , 3 , 8 , St Francis PA
112 , -22.7 / 234 , -29.7 / 230 , 2 , 9 , Sacred Heart
113 , -24.9 / 235 , -32.2 / 232 , 2 , 9 , Morehead St
114 , -21.8 / 232 , -37.4 / 235 , 2 , 8 , Savannah St
115 , -26.1 / 237 , -33.6 / 234 , 3 , 7 , Iona
116 , -22.0 / 233 , -38.4 / 236 , 0 , 10 , North Carolina A&T
117 , -25.4 / 236 , -39.6 / 237 , 3 , 8 , Butler
118 , -28.6 / 238 , -43.7 / 238 , 2 , 8 , St Peter's
119 , -28.8 / 239 , -44.7 / 240 , 3 , 7 , La Salle
120 , -29.2 / 240 , -44.5 / 239 , 3 , 8 , Valparaiso
121 , -38.5 / 241 , -50.1 / 241 , 2 , 8 , Cornell IA

 

[kalster]

interesting, given how close top 3 are , can you predict/guess where the loser of osu/michigan game will stand after the game.

Also if usc would have been undefeated at this point, would they have been quite a way ahead of osu/mich (given its quite close with their 1 loss)

 

[BDawg]

Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

 

[BDawg]

Also, how is Duke ahead of some teams with 1 win? SOS shouldn't make up for not winning any games.

 

[Tom]

I suppose USC and Cal will be tied for 1st place in your poll next week, if Cal wins ?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: kalster
interesting, given how close top 3 are , can you predict/guess where the loser of osu/michigan game will stand after the game.

Also if usc would have been undefeated at this point, would they have been quite a way ahead of osu/mich (given its quite close with their 1 loss)

Well I put a game of OSU 28, Michigan 7 and re-ran the program. I just picked a large win to see the full possible effects. The result:

#1 OSU - with a large lead over #2
#2 USC - with a large lead over #3
#3 Michigan - with a moderate lead over #4
#4 Florida - the leads are now small
#5 California
#6 Louisville
#7 Rutgers
#8 LSU
#9 Notre Dame
#10 West Virginia.

Of course, if Michigan wins big, just swap OSU and Michigan in the list above. If the win is small, make all of those leads small.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

Also, how is Duke ahead of some teams with 1 win? SOS shouldn't make up for not winning any games.

As much as you may hate it, computers like mine use the whole season and not just one game. A head-to-head matchup is only 1/10th of the picture. Wake played some awful games and earned its place just below Boston College. For example, Wake only beat Duke by 1 point! Heck, 3 win NC State and 1 win North Carolina just about beat Wake. Thus, Wake's rest of their season brought them down.

As for Duke, see the bolded part above. Duke nearly beat Miami too. As for the 1-win teams, their only win was sometimes over 1-AA teams. Are you going to say Duke who nearly beat Wake and Miami deserves to be ranked below a 1-win team that only beat a 1-AA team?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Tom
I suppose USC and Cal will be tied for 1st place in your poll next week, if Cal wins ?

I'm sure you said that in jest, but I just ran a scenario of Cal 28, USC 7. The results:

#1: OSU (nearly tied with #2)
#2: Michigan (Big lead over #3)
#3: Cal (Big lead over #4)
#4: USC (Tied with Florida)
#4: Florida (Moderate leads from now on)
#6: Rutgers
#7: Notre Dame
#8: LSU
#9: West Virginia
#10: Wisconsin

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

i think this weeks biggest complaint will be OMG louisville ahead of rutgers when louisville lost to rutgers???!!!

im interested to see what happens to the top 3 with a loss...they arent far ahead of the 1 loss teams, who would the top 2 be if, say, notre dame beats usc, florida loses, etc.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

wake isn't getting the respect they deserve. although we beat them, we probably shouldn't have. 17-3 in the 4th quarter.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I really do not understand your polls love affair with Cal. They just lost to the 40th ranked team in your poll (I assume they were lower last week) and they are still ranked #5?

You need to figure out what is placing such a heavy bias towards that team and fix it.

 

[Syringer]

Syringer's College Football - Week 11, 20006

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Florida
4. USC
5. Rutgers
6. Arkansas
7. Notre Dame
8. West Virginia
9. Louisville
10. Boise St.

My calculations put Notre Dame well in front of Cal since ND's only loss came against my #2, whereas Cal has lost against an unranked team and were blown out by a much lower ranked team.

Discuss.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: BDawg
Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

wake isn't getting the respect they deserve. although we beat them, we probably shouldn't have. 17-3 in the 4th quarter.

lol seriously. I was at the game. that game was bullsh!t. we should be unbeaten

Originally posted by: BDawg
Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

seriously, this ranking is fvcked up. Wake > BC. Wake blows out FSU, BC barely beat them. Wake beat NC State, BC didn't. BC has one more loss. Wake is #1 in the ACC.

And yet they're 22nd?

Louisville is too high. WVU is too low. I'm still not understanding how you get USC ahead of Michigan every week. Oregon is WAYYYY too high.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I really do not understand your polls love affair with Cal. They just lost to the 40th ranked team in your poll (I assume they were lower last week) and they are still ranked #5?

You need to figure out what is placing such a heavy bias towards that team and fix it.

his pac 10 overrating is to account for the sec overrating across the media and this board

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I really do not understand your polls love affair with Cal. They just lost to the 40th ranked team in your poll (I assume they were lower last week) and they are still ranked #5?

You need to figure out what is placing such a heavy bias towards that team and fix it.

his pac 10 overrating is to account for the sec overrating across the media and this board

But an SEC team beat Cal so I am confused at this statement.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I really do not understand your polls love affair with Cal. They just lost to the 40th ranked team in your poll (I assume they were lower last week) and they are still ranked #5?

You need to figure out what is placing such a heavy bias towards that team and fix it.

his pac 10 overrating is to account for the sec overrating across the media and this board

But an SEC team beat Cal so I am confused at this statement.

Yup, and don't forget top teams Cal and USC also lost to unranked teams. Pathetic.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I really do not understand your polls love affair with Cal. They just lost to the 40th ranked team in your poll (I assume they were lower last week) and they are still ranked #5?

You need to figure out what is placing such a heavy bias towards that team and fix it.

his pac 10 overrating is to account for the sec overrating across the media and this board

But an SEC team beat Cal so I am confused at this statement.

Yup, and don't forget top teams Cal and USC also lost to unranked teams. Pathetic.

following your original argument (how wvu was the sec champion last year coz they beat georiga), usc is the sec champion too probably (if ark wins out ).

 

[SP33Demon]

Oh baby, do my eyes deceive me?? Michigan vs WVU projected for the Rose Bowl by Ivan Maisel? That would be a dream matchup, best run D vs best running offense.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2627844

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Oh baby, do my eyes deceive me?? Michigan vs WVU projected for the Rose Bowl by Ivan Maisel? That would be a dream matchup, best run D vs best running offense.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2627844

That would be a damn good game.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Oh baby, do my eyes deceive me?? Michigan vs WVU projected for the Rose Bowl by Ivan Maisel? That would be a dream matchup, best run D vs best running offense.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2627844

lolllll we're going to the meineke car care bowl, wow that's great. god damn they do this to me every year. do so well and then wham. will proctor is such a fvckup.

EDIT: and wake forest should be up there, they could easily be the ACC champions if they can get past VA tech and MD, and i think they will.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: BDawg
Wake below Boston College? How's that when we beat them last week and have one less loss?

Also, how is Duke ahead of some teams with 1 win? SOS shouldn't make up for not winning any games.

As much as you may hate it, computers like mine use the whole season and not just one game. A head-to-head matchup is only 1/10th of the picture. Wake played some awful games and earned its place just below Boston College. For example, Wake only beat Duke by 1 point! Heck, 3 win NC State and 1 win North Carolina just about beat Wake. Thus, Wake's rest of their season brought them down.

As for Duke, see the bolded part above. Duke nearly beat Miami too. As for the 1-win teams, their only win was sometimes over 1-AA teams. Are you going to say Duke who nearly beat Wake and Miami deserves to be ranked below a 1-win team that only beat a 1-AA team?

A win is a win. A loss is a loss. Teams who have bad days but still pull it out are just as viable.

I don't care who you beat if you have 1 win. You're still better than a team with 0 wins. Duke had their AA chance and got SHUTOUT by Richmond.

 

[Mill]

I don't think USC deserves 2nd place, but I see them ahead of any one loss team if they win out. Except for maybe Michigan if they lose to OSU. I think the four best teams are OSU, USC, Michgan, and Florida.

 

[thraashman]

What needs to happen is this.
Cal beats USC.
USC beats Notre Dame.
Rutgers beats WVU
Either Florida State beats Florida and Florida beats Arkansas
or LSU beats Arkansas and Arkansas beats Florida.
Michigan beats Ohio State ... big.

Ga Tech wins out including ACC championship (nothing to do with the rest, but I want to see it)

This way Rutgers gets to play for the National Champioship and when they lose big they can't complain in the future if they go undefeated and don't get to go. Also it doesn't really matter who wins, Michigan or Ohio State, I would just prefer to see Michigan win.
Also Arkansas may not need to lose, if Rutgers goes undefeated they may still be higher ranked than a one loss Arkansas that beat LSU and Florida, but it's unlikely that Rutgers would still be higher.

But this is basically what needs to happen for us to see two undefeated teams play in the national championship game.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: thraashman
What needs to happen is this.
Cal beats USC.
USC beats Notre Dame.
Rutgers beats WVU
Either Florida State beats Florida and Florida beats Arkansas
or LSU beats Arkansas and Arkansas beats Florida.
Michigan beats Ohio State ... big.

Ga Tech wins out including ACC championship (nothing to do with the rest, but I want to see it)

This way Rutgers gets to play for the National Champioship and when they lose big they can't complain in the future if they go undefeated and don't get to go. Also it doesn't really matter who wins, Michigan or Ohio State, I would just prefer to see Michigan win.
Also Arkansas may not need to lose, if Rutgers goes undefeated they may still be higher ranked than a one loss Arkansas that beat LSU and Florida, but it's unlikely that Rutgers would still be higher.

But this is basically what needs to happen for us to see two undefeated teams play in the national championship game.

Well in your scenario of Michigan winning big, I don't think it matters what USC/Cal do as long as Notre Dame beats USC. Human voters aren't going to want to see ND/Mich rematch after the spanking in South Bend, if if ND leads in the computers. Everything else I agree with.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Mill
I don't think USC deserves 2nd place, but I see them ahead of any one loss team if they win out. Except for maybe Michigan if they lose to OSU. I think the four best teams are OSU, USC, Michgan, and Florida.

Florida is going down to Arkansas. Also, did you see the Kansas State and Arizona fans rush the field this weekend?