Duke Nukem Forever on Steam

[gorcorps]

I kind of agree- A lot of the reviews went from saying they didn't like the game to "Gearbox is a bunch of incompetent hacks and I would never not recommend buying any of their products."

I'd cut off your access too.

One could argue that they have the right to give or not give reviewers games based on whatever criteria they choose. But you really CAN'T argue that it was incredibly stupid to post such a statement out in the public.

 

[finbarqs]

well what the devs needed to do to avoid bad reviews is make a game that wont get bad reviews! Seriously, watching the video of the development cycles of DNF, I can safely say that originally, Duke HAD a health bar. AND an EGO bar. I guess the EGO bar was to have him hit harder? Probably what the beer does now...

 

[coldmeat]

Ego may have been his shield, separate from his health, like in the original Halo.

 

[Crow550]

Well Gearbox can always add things with patches.

Kinda reminds me of the Titan patch with Unreal Tournament 3.

Anyways hopefully they listen to the fans and make a patch for the requested features. I am sure unlike Unreal Tournament 3. I am sure Duke Nukem Forever sold well regardless of the reviews. Too many Duke fans that have been following this title would of course get it and play it just because of all the time they waited.

So far this game is no better or worse than the other Duke games.... Duke Nukem 3D still may be better. However when stacked against Duke Nukem Time To Kill & Land Of Babes along with Zero Hour & Manhattan project....

Plus Dukes not done. Were getting a Duke 3D remake & Gearbox is working on a sequel....

Also DLC that is coming for Duke Forever. So well see how things pan out.

That & if you still have Duke 3D you can always get one of the source ports that offer improved visuals and multiplayer and such.

 

[Molondo]

i just saw the multiplayer video, honestly, it looks like a mod for source engine. Just didn't put much effort into it.

 

[mmntech]

Duke Nukem Forever is like the Transformers of video games. Flashy explosions, low on substance, yet still draws in huge crowds. Michael Bay himself couldn't do better (worse).

Unfortunately that's what happens when a game sits that long in development. The more legendary it becomes, the higher the expectations. What would have been a passable, mildly entertaining if not forgettable shooter, is now fodder for internet venom. You have to give Gearbox some credit. They were basically handed a turd and told to polish it. George Broussard is responsible for ruining the game.

I really do think DNF should have been scrapped when 3DRealms collapsed. They would have been better served starting fresh. Give the Duke a game he deserves. Hindsight is 50/50 I guess.

 

[coldmeat]

Duke Nukem Forever is like the Transformers of video games. Flashy explosions, low on substance, yet still draws in huge crowds. Michael Bay himself couldn't do better (worse).

Unfortunately that's what happens when a game sits that long in development. The more legendary it becomes, the higher the expectations. What would have been a passable, mildly entertaining if not forgettable shooter, is now fodder for internet venom. You have to give Gearbox some credit. They were basically handed a turd and told to polish it. George Broussard is responsible for ruining the game.

I really do think DNF should have been scrapped when 3DRealms collapsed. They would have been better served starting fresh. Give the Duke a game he deserves. Hindsight is 50/50 I guess.

Isn't it "hindsight is 20/20"?

 

[Crow550]

The game should have retailed for $20 like Serious Sam.

This game will gain a cult status like the Postal games do. It's trashy fun. It's not amazing. Like if Troma films made a game.

This game is what it is. All Gearbox could do is take the mess of levels and incomplete code and notes from 3D Realms and stitch it together & get it out so 2K Games could recover some of the loss.

At least now Gearbox owns the rights & can work on there own sequel.

Let's see what kind of patches and support Gearbox gives this game. I think once the price drops more people will pick it up by then hopefully Gearbox will deliver some patches & DLC of things fans request.

Well see....

 

[apoppin]

The game should have retailed for $20 like Serious Sam.

This game will gain a cult status like the Postal games do. It's trashy fun. It's not amazing.

Why? Serious Sam First and Second Encounter were simple ports to Serious 3 engine with some added bonus challenge levels.

DNF is a full brand new game. And it much better than the haters and stuck-in-the-past fans of the original are making it to be.

i enjoyed it a lot. it makes fun of every FPS i have ever played and is original in its own way (it rips on NoLF, HL2, AvP, Borderlands, etc.). It is a reworking and reintroduction of a new Duke franchise. And above all, it is fun and does not take itself seriously as some of its reviewers obviously do. It is more like the new generation of "Jackass" movies like SuperBad and is intended to offend the older generations.

 

[Nik]

i just saw the multiplayer video, honestly, it looks like a mod for source engine. Just didn't put much effort into it.

People like you just really piss me off. They think they can judge the entire game based on one little video.

Unlike you, I put my money where my mouth is and am greatly enjoying the game.

 

[Nik]

Why? Serious Sam First and Second Encounter were simple ports to Serious 3 engine with some added bonus challenge levels.

DNF is a full brand new game. And it much better than the haters and stuck-in-the-past fans of the original are making it to be.

i enjoyed it a lot. it makes fun of every FPS i have ever played and is original in its own way (it rips on NoLF, HL2, AvP, Borderlands, etc.). It is a reworking and reintroduction of a new Duke franchise. And above all, it is fun and does not take itself seriously as some of its reviewers obviously do. It is more like the new generation of "Jackass" movies like SuperBad and is intended to offend the older generations.

Agreed with the bolded. People are just bitching about DNF because they have nothing better to do and clearly don't know what the hell they're talking about.

 

[CPA]

Why? Serious Sam First and Second Encounter were simple ports to Serious 3 engine with some added bonus challenge levels.

DNF is a full brand new game. And it much better than the haters and stuck-in-the-past fans of the original are making it to be.

i enjoyed it a lot. it makes fun of every FPS i have ever played and is original in its own way (it rips on NoLF, HL2, AvP, Borderlands, etc.). It is a reworking and reintroduction of a new Duke franchise. And above all, it is fun and does not take itself seriously as some of its reviewers obviously do. It is more like the new generation of "Jackass" movies like SuperBad and is intended to offend the older generations.

The original SS TFE and SS TSE were sold at $19.99 when they came out back in 03-05. I think that is what he was referring to.

 

[Dankk]

The original SS TFE and SS TSE were sold at $19.99 when they came out back in 03-05. I think that is what he was referring to.

In other news, after canceling my pre-order for DNF, I decided I'm gonna use the money for Serious Sam 3. Hell yeah.

 

[WelshBloke]

Agreed with the bolded. People are just bitching about DNF because they have nothing better to do and clearly don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Yep, couldn't be that the game is a big solid Meh! to most people.

 

[apoppin]

Yep, couldn't be that the game is a big solid Meh! to most people.

Not in this case.

DNF is solid fun. Most of the reviewers take themselves way too seriously and the game doesn't. They simply don't get it and the joke is on them and the forum members who condemn the game second hand or after a few minutes after finishing the opening; it is a slow starter and it wallows in everything "duke".

i finished the game. 7.5/10. Solid entertainment and mindless shooting fun. i look forward to the beginning of a new Duke franchise
^_^

 

[Nik]

Yep, this is a very very solid game.

 

[Red Storm]

Agreed with the bolded. People are just bitching about DNF because they have nothing better to do and clearly don't know what the hell they're talking about.

God forbid people have their own opinion on a game that disagrees with yours.

I thought the game was pretty poor, and it seems I am not alone.

 

[Nik]

God forbid people have their own opinion on a game that disagrees with yours.

I thought the game was pretty poor, and it seems I am not alone.

People who bash DNF must obviously do so with some sort of external agenda. There's no reason to bash DNF, judging purely on what the game provides.

Maybe you bought into the hype. Maybe you thought this game is supposed to be the second coming of christ or something. Maybe you suck at FPSs. Maybe you are an impossible-to-satisfy gamer who will find anything wrong in absolutely everything.

Who knows.

I have yet to see a logical, reasonable negative review of this game. Not one.

 

[Red Storm]

People who bash DNF must obviously do so with some sort of external agenda. There's no reason to bash DNF, judging purely on what the game provides.

Maybe you bought into the hype. Maybe you thought this game is supposed to be the second coming of christ or something. Maybe you suck at FPSs. Maybe you are an impossible-to-satisfy gamer who will find anything wrong in absolutely everything.

Who knows.

I have yet to see a logical, reasonable negative review of this game. Not one.

Again with the "If you don't like what I like then something is wrong with you" shtick.

A lot of people didn't like the game. Deal with it. Why are you taking it like a personal insult?

 

[apoppin]

I thought the game was pretty poor, and it seems I am not alone.

i thought the game was pretty good and i can certainly can tell you what i liked about it and have done so in this thread.

What did you not like about it? And before you tell us, were you a real fan of the original and are you comparing the new game to the old series?

When i began the game, i read the hateful reviews and i was actually prepared mentally to dislike it; after a couple of hours it won me over and i really enjoyed it for what it is.
:whiste:

 

[Red Storm]

i thought the game was pretty good and i can certainly can tell you what i liked about it and have done so in this thread.

What did you not like about it? And before you tell us, were you a real fan of the original and are you comparing the new game to the old series?

When i began the game, i read the hateful reviews and i was actually prepared mentally to dislike it; after a couple of hours it won me over and i really enjoyed it for what it is.
:whiste:

I personally never played the original, nor any of the sequels so I have nothing to compare it against. I do know who he is and all, along with all the jokes that have sprung from the old games.

I judge singleplayer games in this order: Story - Game play - Graphics.

The story was poor. I get it's all a joke and it doesn't take itself seriously, but that doesn't change the fact that it still costs money, and even so it still wasn't all that funny. It's like a once great comedian who's trying too hard and falls back on his original works but even that fails to impress.

The game play was standard run of the mill, nothing memorable. Some of the boss fights were okay, but that's about it. Games like GTA and Just Cause have very fun game play that makes you forget or no longer even care for the story. Not so with DNF.

The graphics were sub par, though I don't think anyone is surprised about that.

The bar has been raised quite a bit since the 90s, but DNF is still living in the past. It's a waste of money that just doesn't interest me. That's my opinion on the game.

 

[apoppin]

I personally never played the original, nor any of the sequels so I have nothing to compare it against. I do know who he is and all, along with all the jokes that have sprung from the old games.

I judge singleplayer games in this order: Story - Game play - Graphics.

If you put the story first, then DNF will disappoint. The plot is simplistic - like Serious Sam series; or a "story" like Borderlands which completely fails to satisfy. i.e. Mindless shooting and puzzles to solve and big guns to do the job.

One thing in its favor - no bugs nor crashes; and it looks pretty good in S3D - unlike Bulletstorm's implementation which i found really distracting.

 

[Red Storm]

If you put the story first, then DNF will disappoint. The plot is simplistic - like Serious Sam series; or a "story" like Borderlands which completely fails to satisfy. i.e. Mindless shooting and puzzles to solve and big guns to do the job.

One thing in its favor - no bugs nor crashes; and it looks pretty good in S3D - unlike Bulletstorm's implementation which i found really distracting.

But the game play didn't make up for the story. GTA and Just Cause did though.

I don't remember any bugs or crashes, I will give it that. Quite an accomplishment, but you could put Minesweeper into that category as well. It's not enough.

 

[Pantlegz]

Not in this case.

DNF is solid fun. Most of the reviewers take themselves way too seriously and the game doesn't. They simply don't get it and the joke is on them and the forum members who condemn the game second hand or after a few minutes after finishing the opening; it is a slow starter and it wallows in everything "duke".

i finished the game. 7.5/10. Solid entertainment and mindless shooting fun. i look forward to the beginning of a new Duke franchise
^_^

I haven't finished it yet and it does have some flaws but overall it's decent. I was talking to a few friends and I said it was in the 6-7 range, my biggest gripe so far is the 2 gun limit.

A Duke 3D refresh would be nice too, hopefully they make it a little prettier since they're not working on level design or story line or whatever.

 

[Crow550]

I should say I don't personally hate the game. However I haven't beaten it yet either.

Just saying retailing it for $50 - $60 was ridiculous. If you can wait & get it cheaper. Then do so.

It's not the worst game and to me is for Duke fans as well as people into that kind of fun trashy genre. Like I said above.

Yes I meant when Serious Sam first came out. Even Serious Sam 2 was $20 & so will be Serious Sam 3. That's just now Croteam team roles. Not saying at all that all game makers should sell there games for $20. Just Croteam knows what kind of game they are making and a fair price to retail it at.

I think the Postal games are indie produced. I never played them. A friend showed me Postal 2.

I also know that 2K Games is trying to recoup as much as possible from this mess.

Anyways it's out & done with. Well see what Gearbox does with supporting it....