Dui = pos

Dr. Zaus

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So, in social science being able to explain 1/3rd of something with a SINGLE VARIABLE is amazingly good, and DUI can explain about 1/3rd of driving fatalities.

If anyone thinks about it, if we could link 1/3rd of cancer to one thing people do that is shitty.. oh say: exposing others unwonted to second-hand smoke (just a hypothetical)... would it be reasonable to ban such a practice? or do we have to wait for the cancer to kill someone before we can rightfully stop a particular individual from exposing others to such danger?
 

Dr. Zaus

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Drinking and driving is already illegal so I don't know what you're getting at.

I once crawled out of a dank pit of the kind of people who get drunk on a daily basis and drive.

The basic argument was that they weren't "drunk" and as such they should not worry about DUI; further DUI law were there simply to oppress them... this turned being a worthless sack of crap into a "rebel fighting for his rights" in the drunk's mind.

Someone was spewing this line of mindless drivel in another thread and I didn't want to hijack it: so the point is made here.

if you DUI you are a sack of crap.
 

geno

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Hum... ditching a debt is = contributing to 1/3 of all traffic fatalities...

interesting, go on...

Not comparing the two actions, but for you to judge someone as a "sack of crap" when you are, in fact, a "sack of crap" is very amusing.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Not comparing the two actions, but for you to judge someone as a "sack of crap" when you are, in fact, a "sack of crap" is very amusing.

Oh.. well then: Totally fair. (no sarcasm)

But I'm a sack of crap for all sorts of other reasons.

But I do some heroic things to make up for it, like kill hookers.
 

Crono

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Hum... ditching a debt is = contributing to 1/3 of all traffic fatalities...

interesting, go on...

I don't think he is equating the two, just stating the irony in that someone who is willing to renege on financial obligations is calling someone else "a sack of crap".

That's what I think he meant; I won't say if I agree or disagree with him...
 

halik

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Oh.. well then: Totally fair. (no sarcasm)

But I'm a sack of crap for all sorts of other reasons.

But I do some heroic things to make up for it, like kill hookers.

how did you rack up 6 figs of debt?
 

Dr. Zaus

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how did you rack up 6 figs of debt?

1.) family has NO money
2.) been attending university for 10 years now
3.) the ramp-up loan-availability in the graduate level to make up for a lack of federal grants.

so, first five years: 30k in debt,(apx 6k a year) next five years: 100k in debt (apx 20k a year in debt).

It's no big deal.. unless I don't actually get my degree... then it is a very big deal.

Don't kill them all. What will I have with my blow? :(
hum.. strippers?
 
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sjwaste

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how did you rack up 6 figs of debt?

My guess is law school. That's how I racked up my 6 figures of student debt!

I'm paying mine back, though - partially. 9 more years with the government, or any other "public interest" employer, and the government forgives the balance.

Of course, I'm making the 10 year payments right now. But when my wife stops working to have kids, I can reduce that on one of the income-based plans.

Also, the fed government is a pretty awesome place to work. Done and done.
 

Dr. Zaus

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My guess is law school. That's how I racked up my 6 figures of student debt!

I'm paying mine back, though - partially. 9 more years with the government, or any other "public interest" employer, and the government forgives the balance.

wow... that is nice.

I wonder if professor counts to that end.
 

sjwaste

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wow... that is nice.

I wonder if professor counts to that end.

Go to ibrinfo.org and look at the public service debt forgiveness program. It's for all direct student loans, not just law debt. Catch is, it has to be a direct loan, so if yours aren't, you can consolidate with the Dept of Education and go from there.
 

zinfamous

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I am entertained by this thread...and not for the reasons that I expected.
 

DrPizza

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Wait a second... you're about to get a PhD, yet you're dumb enough to not understand the difference between causation and correlation?! FAIL! How about we link vehicle fatalities to a single variable: breathing. Every person who has ever died in an accident was breathing just prior to the accident. DUI's aren't necessarily the cause of those accidents, and I'm a bit skeptical about that stat in the first place.
 
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Correlation != causation.
social science
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FelixDeCat

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Wait a second... you're about to get a PhD, yet you're dumb enough to not understand the difference between causation and correlation?! FAIL! How about we link vehicle fatalities to a single variable: breathing. Every person who has ever died in an accident was breathing just prior to the accident. DUI's aren't necessarily the cause of those accidents, and I'm a bit skeptical about that stat in the first place.

So thats why they call it a breathalyzer! :eek:
 

SphinxnihpS

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Wait a second... you're about to get a PhD, yet you're dumb enough to not understand the difference between causation and correlation?! FAIL! How about we link vehicle fatalities to a single variable: breathing. Every person who has ever died in an accident was breathing just prior to the accident. DUI's aren't necessarily the cause of those accidents, and I'm a bit skeptical about that stat in the first place.

You may be on to something, because immediately after the accident, they weren't breathing at all. If we could only figure out what made them breath and then abruptly stop...
 

GregGreen

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Wait a second... you're about to get a PhD, yet you're dumb enough to not understand the difference between causation and correlation?! FAIL! How about we link vehicle fatalities to a single variable: breathing. Every person who has ever died in an accident was breathing just prior to the accident. DUI's aren't necessarily the cause of those accidents, and I'm a bit skeptical about that stat in the first place.

This is even more poignant than I was thinking... most schools are willing to pay PhD students to go there through grants and research/teacher assistant jobs. What the hell are you doing at a PhD program that won't pay you that. I have to say your positions as a professor might be limited if schools aren't even willing to hire you as a TA.
 
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