Dui ffffuuuuuuu

[alkemyst]

Speaking of anecdotes, have you heard the one about the guy in his DUI class who had his Corvette impounded? I don't think he's told that one in a while.

Yeah, lawyer from New York. DUI in his driveway washing the vehicle.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

That is evidence...she is just guessing.

No, that's anecdote, like I already said.

 

[KeithTalent]

Meh, I'd be fine if they took the OP's license away for a year. Having to take transit everywhere for a whole year would probably sort him out.

KT

 

[moshquerade]

Dude, you do realize I had a DUI and shopped insurance. My rates were unaffected and have been for the last nearly 10 years.

That is evidence...she is just guessing.

I am not guessing. Just because I am not a loser who drives drunk like you doesn't mean I can't research what it does to car insurance rates and get viable answers. Like I've said, if your rates didn't rise after your conviction then you are one lucky bastard. It seems most rates don't go unaffected.

You have offered nothing concrete to support your claim.

 

[alkemyst]

I am not guessing. Just because I am not a loser who drives drunk like you doesn't mean I can't research what it does to car insurance rates and get viable answers. Like I've said, if your rates didn't rise after your conviction then you are one lucky bastard. It seems most rates don't go unaffected.

You have offered nothing concrete to support your claim.

Huh I guess google > experience for you.

I was arrested in my parking spot. I had broke up with the chick I was living with and she had a cop friend waiting. I don't think either thought I was going to blow a .168.

I wasn't drunk, I should have been below .08...I was having 1 beer an hour and gave it a 2 hour break prior to driving home at around 2am.

Many in my class also were not affected on their insurance, a few were.

Part of the class/counseling is you have write down what DUI has cost you.

We didn't have anyone I can remember that hurt anyone...most were around $4k-6k. Some were much much higher that were trying to fight it.

You can believe what you want, it's really a brainwashing movement. There is no problem in reality, yet everyone seems to know someone that has died personally.

It's about 13,000 deaths a year...most people that know someone that died as a personal friend are just full of shit and simply know of the person.

 

[alkemyst]

No, that's anecdote, like I already said.

how do you figure that? Do you understand the meaning of the word?

 

[moshquerade]

Huh I guess google > experience for you.

I was arrested in my parking spot. I had broke up with the chick I was living with and she had a cop friend waiting. I don't think either thought I was going to blow a .168.

I wasn't drunk, I should have been below .08...I was having 1 beer an hour and gave it a 2 hour break prior to driving home at around 2am.

Many in my class also were not affected on their insurance, a few were.

Part of the class/counseling is you have write down what DUI has cost you.

We didn't have anyone I can remember that hurt anyone...most were around $4k-6k. Some were much much higher that were trying to fight it.

You can believe what you want, it's really a brainwashing movement. There is no problem in reality, yet everyone seems to know someone that has died personally.

It's about 13,000 deaths a year...most people that know someone that died as a personal friend are just full of shit and simply know of the person.

This sounds like the ramblings of a mad man.

And still proves nothing, but you have a story. Also, your last two paragraphs have nothing to do with the debate we are having.

 

[rudeguy]

We didn't have anyone I can remember that hurt anyone...most were around $4k-6k. Some were much much higher that were trying to fight it.

You can believe what you want, it's really a brainwashing movement. There is no problem in reality, yet everyone seems to know someone that has died personally.

It's about 13,000 deaths a year...most people that know someone that died as a personal friend are just full of shit and simply know of the person.

I personally know...as in I can call them right now...3 people who killed people while drunk driving. I know myself and I hurt myself quite badly driving drunk.

Quit trolling. You don't know shit.

 

[TheVrolok]

I don't think either thought I was going to blow a .168.

I wasn't drunk, I should have been below .08...I was having 1 beer an hour and gave it a 2 hour break prior to driving home at around 2am.

Shens. You were not drinking 1 beer/hour with a 2 hour break prior to blowing a .168. You weren't drunk? That BAC begs to differ.

 

[alkemyst]

This sounds like the ramblings of a mad man.

And still proves nothing, but you have a story. Also, your last two paragraphs have nothing to do with the debate we are having.

It does. Even insurance companies are learning it's not a risk item to them.

You guys have got to be blind or simply trolling, esp those that wanted a .02 limit.

The .08 limit was about added revenue, not saving lives. In fact DUI deaths have remained a steady 30% of all fatalities on the road for over 10 years.

Of those as I have said many are the driver and driver only...

Deaths suck, but there are a lot more things that kill that we should be focusing on.

 

[alkemyst]

Shens. You were not drinking 1 beer/hour with a 2 hour break prior to blowing a .168. You weren't drunk? That BAC begs to differ.

As I stated before, I learned that having a cut in your mouth...in my case having most of my lower lip torn by my teeth will MAJORLY skew your results.

Problem is to defend this you need a team of expert witnesses and to take the thing to trial.

It was a non-event in my life, entirely about me paying various organizations and about 8 hours of my time. You are allowed to pay for all your community service at a paltry $10/hr.

I just paid it out. Did my 30 days organizing rides/cabs, then the next 60 work only...and was done.

I learned a ton about the system and how DUI law falls outside the regular courts...you have far less rights and the judge is locked into mandatory sentencing even if they disagree with the case presented. You are also tried twice.

 

[geno]

Deaths suck, but there are a lot more things that kill that we should be focusing on.

This. I'm not defending boozin' and cruisin', but lemme tell ya, more cell phone related accidents and deaths happen each year in this country than DD does. You don't see anyone freaking out "I know someone who died because of someone like YOU talking on their phone while driving"

Stop dramatizing it, DD accidents are just a piece of the pie in a world where people text behind the wheel, do their makeup, shave, or do anything else distracting behind the wheel.

 

[guyver01]

Gratz... you're part of a record.

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=135236&provider=top&catid=188

688 busts in 1 night.

 

[TheVrolok]

This. I'm not defending boozin' and cruisin', but lemme tell ya, more cell phone related accidents and deaths happen each year in this country than DD does. You don't see anyone freaking out "I know someone who died because of someone like YOU talking on their phone while driving"

Stop dramatizing it, DD accidents are just a piece of the pie in a world where people text behind the wheel, do their makeup, shave, or do anything else distracting behind the wheel.

Is it just another piece of the "things that cause accidents" pie? Yes, it is. Are things like eating, shaving, dressing, putting on make up, etc. behind the wall dangerous as well? Yes they are. But DD is in a different class. DD impairs your ENTIRE drive from start to finish, while eating/shaving/etc. may only distract someone for a minute or two. Does that make eating/shaving/etc. ok? Of course not, but if I had to fight the good fight, I'd rather do it against something that is 1) a more consistent problem (as said, alcohol impairs 100% of the drive) and 2) more enforceable (you may not catch someone in the minute they're texting but you can pull someone over a give 'em a PBT).

 

[PlasmaBomb]

At a .081 you should have at least started to feel a little something, maybe not much but something.

You probably just had stronger stuff then normal, or you started drinking faster towards the end.

Oh and was the check just because of the checkpoint, or was your driving that bad?
And at .001 to high if you were have gotten checked almost any amount later you would have been under.

BAC continues to rise for up to 3 hours after you stop drinking.

Chances are 10 minutes later he would have failed harder...

 

[boomhower]

. There is no problem in reality, yet everyone seems to know someone that has died personally.

It's about 13,000 deaths a year...most people that know someone that died as a personal friend are just full of shit and simply know of the person.

There is no problem, except 13,000 completely avoidable deaths because ass holes like you think there is no problem drinking and driving. You have to be fucking kidding me.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Well... if you dont submit to a field test, they can arrest you and take blood with a warrant.

personally. i'd rather voluntarily blow on the straw and go... than go to jail.

It's weird...

In the UK the breath test means pretty much nothing - if you fail you get taken in for a blood test, if you refuse and the officer has suspicions you get taken in for a blood test. If you pass you are on your way.

The evidence required for court is a blood test, in fact they actually take two tests and use the lower reading.

So if one test is BAC 0.081 and the other is BAC 0.079 they don't take you to court.

 

[Fingolfin269]

There is no problem, except 13,000 completely avoidable deaths because ass holes like you think there is no problem drinking and driving. You have to be fucking kidding me.

The problem is you assume that just because 'alcohol was involved' that alcohol was the reason someone died. That is not always the case. Just because someone blew a .081 after an accident doesn't mean that it was the reason the accident happened nor automatically that person's fault. However, we are conditioned to assume that someone who is impaired is always at fault. A herd of deer that Mario Andretti couldn't even avoid could have been the cause of a fatal crash but if the driver who did the swerving blew a .08 it was the alcohol and not nature that was at fault.

 

[Fingolfin269]

It's weird...

In the UK the breath test means pretty much nothing - if you fail you get taken in for a blood test, if you refuse and the officer has suspicions you get taken in for a blood test. If you pass you are on your way.

The evidence required for court is a blood test, in fact they actually take two tests and use the lower reading.

So if one test is BAC 0.081 and the other is BAC 0.079 they don't take you to court.

This is how it should be here. Sadly it is not.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Your math was off by one thousandth.

Your math is off by an order of magnitude...

I am dissapoint.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Mythbusters validated it affecting their driving performance significantly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vFcIpzF7pc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGN1pLI4ZaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LuM92Twm8

This?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

This is how it should be here. Sadly it is not.

 

[dabuddha]

Meh, I'd be fine if they took the OP's license away for a year. Having to take transit everywhere for a whole year would probably sort him out.

KT

This. Repeat offenders should have it permanently removed and they should be castrated as well. How fucking stupid do you have to be to get behind the wheel of a car after drinking.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

The record in my ER was held by a homeless woman who routinely had blood levels over 500mg/dl (0.5). She came in once with a level of 745mg/dl (0.7). Obtunded but arrousable and breathing on her own.

Good job!

no accident or anything? Thats crazy to jail a kid for making a mistake that didn't hurt anyone. There are better ways to punish someone for this.

um... she killed her passenger in a crash!

 

[Fingolfin269]

not leaving me much to quote here! Unless something has changed recently, all they need to convict here is a breath test. Pretty sure a blood test is not required.