dude punches cop at mardi gras whoa wtf was this guy thinkin lol

[irishScott]

It isn't just cities. They just raided a rural house because they were making maple syrup, but assumed it was meth. No investigation was done before the kick-in.

They are militarizing because of all the post-9/11 federal anti-terrorism funds flowing in...they have to spend it somehow. Rifles, APCs, and armor are among the toys they love.

Yeah, it's happening everywhere, just far more in the cities from what I've seen. Any police department can kick down a door over bullshit. Hell sheriffs with 6-shoters did that for over a century. However, most suburban/rural police departments aren't planning to deploy drones or put terahertz scanners in every patrol car.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

It isn't just cities. They just raided a rural house because they were making maple syrup, but assumed it was meth. No investigation was done before the kick-in.

They are militarizing because of all the post-9/11 federal anti-terrorism funds flowing in...they have to spend it somehow. Rifles, APCs, and armor are among the toys they love.

Not just funds, but also post 9/11 soldiers with PTSD and others issues who are looking for work.

I greatly appreciate what our troops do for us, but these soldiers with both diagnosed and undiagnosed mental illnesses need to be on VA pension, not handed a gun and told to 'control' the streets.

 

[emperus]

It is funny to read the comments here and on the video host site.....people really have no idea what happens if you are in for longer than one night in the drunk tank at your local station.....

I am no fan of the gang-mentality of County and State guards, and the abuses they commit....let alone local PD shooting unarmed kids here......but punching a cop is stupid, and this kid is currently learning the hard way.

There are two issues being conflated.

1.) If the kid hit a cop unprovoked. He should go to jail. He broke the law
2.) Once the cop was battered, he had a right to restrain the individual. 3 cops throwing hay makers and tazering him when he was on the floor doesn't sound like restraining to me. Illegality is illegality whomever it is.

 

[Deeko]

And in the days of tazers, a closed fist punch by a cop should be automatic jail time.

Haha every time a cop uses a tazer, the moronic anti cop brigade swarms the internet with cries of how a tazer can kill you. The problem is that mindless crowd will attack the cop no matter what he does.

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that if you punch a cop in the face, you get a beating, and in thus case, probably deserve it.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Haha every time a cop uses a tazer, the moronic anti cop brigade swarms the internet with cries of how a tazer can kill you. The problem is that mindless crowd will attack the cop no matter what he does.

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that if you punch a cop in the face, you get a beating, and in thus case, probably deserve it.

Post a link where this happens.

The only time people get upset over tazing is when they do it totally unprovoked. In this situation a tazer is the most appropriate solution. Not a closed fist beating to the face.

 

[dawheat]

Wow that kid is a moron. A uniformed cop grabbing your shirt, even unprovoked, is absolutely no grounds for throwing full strength punches at a cop.

Two things:
- There was provocation
- There has always been, and should continue to be unequal allowance of force between police and non-police. On the flip side, police should be severely punished for abuse of their authority.

Someone did throw a drink at the cop - you're not allowed to do that, they're not a normal civilian. The police are justified in asking who did it and temporarily holding anyone identified by witnesses. Frankly, I think the cop was planning on grabbing the shirt, shouting at the kid, and seeing if anyone else also identified him as the thrower. Do I think the officer should have to do it politely? Nope - so far I don't see any abuse.

Now if the cop went in with fist or baton swinging - that's absolutely crossing the line and he should be fired.

Secondly - police deserve the ability to respond with unequal force in physical situations. Part of it is to discourage future attacks on officers, and the other is that they're under no obligation to open themselves up to extra risk so they have some leeway in 'removing a threat' beyond what a normal civilian can do. Now where that line falls is constantly evolving and we as the public should constantly be holding police accountable. So if someone throws a punch at a cop and gets 3 back (throw 3, get 9 back)- that's ok in my book. Beating a cuffed and immobilized person is certainly not.

 

[waggy]

It isn't just cities. They just raided a rural house because they were making maple syrup, but assumed it was meth. No investigation was done before the kick-in.

They are militarizing because of all the post-9/11 federal anti-terrorism funds flowing in...they have to spend it somehow. Rifles, APCs, and armor are among the toys they love.

I posted once how big city PD"s are turning more into small armies then police. Many have full body armor, fully auto weapons, and fully armored military style vehicles.

I had linked a article that the feds are giving PD's LOW (zero or damn close) loans and/or grants to buy this stuff. So they get $150k for a vehicle (then it sits unless they can find a use). then they find any excuse to break the shit out.

 

[highland145]

Post a link where this happens.

The only time people get upset over tazing is when they do it totally unprovoked. In this situation a tazer is the most appropriate solution. Not a closed fist beating to the face.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/...th-side-police-station-and-hospital-dies.html
This was the 1st google search for "man tasered dies.". The taser didn't kill him but it's in the title of the article and, maybe, half of the others about the incident. It's mentioned in all of the ones I read.

Once admitted, he was given a sedative and later died.

Could be an agenda or sensationalism.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/...th-side-police-station-and-hospital-dies.html
This was the 1st google search for "man tasered dies.". The taser didn't kill him but it's in the title of the article and, maybe, half of the others about the incident. It's mentioned in all of the ones I read.


Could be an agenda or sensationalism.

The other poster acted like literally every time someone gets tazed people jump on the 'tazers are dangerous' bandwagon, and I disagree with that sentiment.

In your case, the guy actually died, and journalist are looking for an eye grabbing headline.

 

[highland145]

The other poster acted like literally every time someone gets tazed people jump on the 'tazers are dangerous' bandwagon, and I disagree with that sentiment.

In your case, the guy actually died, and journalist are looking for an eye grabbing headline.

True, now that I read it again. Personally, I'd rather be tazed than shot. I'll take my chances with the heart attack.

 

[Murloc]

lol I find the crowd trashtalking amusing.
Anyway a drunkard throwing a punch after you jerk his shirt does not warrant beating him down after he's been blocked by your colleagues.
Some people just react instinctively and being drunk doesn't help with that.

 

[Deeko]

The other poster acted like literally every time someone gets tazed people jump on the 'tazers are dangerous' bandwagon, and I disagree with that sentiment.

In your case, the guy actually died, and journalist are looking for an eye grabbing headline.

Look, I DO agree with you that tazing is a superior solution, in fact whenever someone starts screaming about tazers I say something along the lines of "really? You think its safer to get cracked in the head with a police baton?" My point was just that the anti-cop brigade has a habit of complaining about them, too - they'll complain about ANY use of force by the police.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Look, I DO agree with you that tazing is a superior solution, in fact whenever someone starts screaming about tazers I say something along the lines of "really? You think its safer to get cracked in the head with a police baton?" My point was just that the anti-cop brigade has a habit of complaining about them, too - they'll complain about ANY use of force by the police.

Yeah, well, I don't see this anti-cop brigade agenda you're posting about. If a cop CLEARLY abuses the use of his tazer then people SHOULD be upset.

Just because a tazer only causes death 1% of the time doesn't mean it's ok for tazing someone for, let's say, simply asking why they were being pulled over.


My point is that there's a time and place for certain types of force, and a CLOSED FIST punch should never come from a cop - period.


That cop wasn't trying to detain the kid, he was 'paying him back' for allegedly throwing a drink on him.