Ducks getting screwed in BCS?

[NeoV]

Northwestern has one of the better offenses in college football btw

 

[alexjohnson16]

I imagine Oregon would get rolled by Penn State and Ohio State, and would only beat one of four out of Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa or Northwestern (I think it would be NW).

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i suppose they will end up in the holiday bowl and lose to a big 12 team like cal did last year after all their whining.

same could be said about texas year before that when they thought they shud have got a bcs bowl and got beaten pretty well by washington state

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: hdeck
i suppose they will end up in the holiday bowl and lose to a big 12 team like cal did last year after all their whining.

same could be said about texas year before that when they thought they shud have got a bcs bowl and got beaten pretty well by washington state

but texas isn't in the pac 10 and texas wasn't whining about the bcs after ou lost in the big 12 title game.

 

[imported_Bassmaster]

The Pac-10 as good as the SEC??? :laugh: Tennessee is having a down year but other than that, they are usually in the running for top 5, Florida, Auburn, Bama, Georgia,LSU... The Pac 10 couldn't hang year in and year out there in all seriousness.

The SEC and Big Ten beat up on each other also, so I can't see that as an argument for Oregon. I live in Michigan but I don't like Big Ten football. I like watching the Buckeyes but don't care about them whether they win or lose and I don't see Oregon being able to hang with either them or Penn St. Oregon is a nice team but not worthy of a top 5 imo.

Or maybe they just don't like Oregon's uni's. :laugh:

Just j/k.

Someone always does get screwed since the BCS, I do agree with you there. As long as it's not the #1 and #2 teams, I can live with it a little better.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: preslove
Without USC the Pac Ten is a hair better than the Big East. It's a pathetic excuse for a conference. Oregon is OVER-rated, not under. Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia (with shockley) would all beat Oregon. I could see Florida giving them a run for their money.

How come you point out that Georgia is horrible without their quarterback, but ignore the fact that Oregon is still winning without theirs?

 

[shilala]

Best. Title. Ever.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: hdeck
i suppose they will end up in the holiday bowl and lose to a big 12 team like cal did last year after all their whining.

same could be said about texas year before that when they thought they shud have got a bcs bowl and got beaten pretty well by washington state

but texas isn't in the pac 10 and texas wasn't whining about the bcs after ou lost in the big 12 title game.

Mack Brown might not have been, but there were Texas fans on AT who were.

 

[Train]

Ok so Fresblow State just lost to unranked Nevada, therefore they will likely be unranked themselves come tommorow.

Now who has Oregon beaten that is any good?

Sorry but the ducks are severely overrated.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Maybe Oregon could try beating SOMEBODY good for a change, and they might deserve their ranking.

 

[imported_Bassmaster]

This is why I think they aren't a Top 5 team for sure and probably not even a Top 10 team. Some games that concern me...

Houston W 38-24 (Not convincing to a low football school)

Fresno St. W 37-34 (Not convincing to an overrated team)

USC L 45-13 (Can't get rolled when it counts)

Arizona W 28-21 (Not convincing against a bad team)

Cal W 27-21 (Not convincing against a barely Top 25 team)

Washington St. W 34-31 (By 3 points to WSU?)

 

[BlancoNino]

Those last two games were with their backup QB. Washington St. Has one of the most high-powered offenses in the nation and has been in close games EVERY WEEK and could easily be a 1-loss team.

In other news, Notre Dame STRUGGLED with 5 win Stanford (Oregon beat stanford pretty damn well this year) tonight. So I think that counts as something.

Just because the PAC-10 doesn't play on national TV every week and get the publicity as the other schools doesn't mean they aren't as good. Nobody has argued with the Miami and Washington facts I've thrown up there either. I guess since most people in the United States live back east and their games are more publicized they get more attention and more favorable votes.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: hdeck
i suppose they will end up in the holiday bowl and lose to a big 12 team like cal did last year after all their whining.

same could be said about texas year before that when they thought they shud have got a bcs bowl and got beaten pretty well by washington state

but texas isn't in the pac 10 and texas wasn't whining about the bcs after ou lost in the big 12 title game.

Mack Brown might not have been, but there were Texas fans on AT who were.

saying that the texas fans that post on a computer forum are a true representation of all the texas fans as a whole isn't exactly an intelligent statement.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Those last two games were with their backup QB. Washington St. Has one of the most high-powered offenses in the nation and has been in close games EVERY WEEK and could easily be a 1-loss team.

In other news, Notre Dame STRUGGLED with 5 win Stanford (Oregon beat stanford pretty damn well this year) tonight. So I think that counts as something.

Just because the PAC-10 doesn't play on national TV every week and get the publicity as the other schools doesn't mean they aren't as good. Nobody has argued with the Miami and Washington facts I've thrown up there either. I guess since most people in the United States live back east and their games are more publicized they get more attention and more favorable votes.

Well that could explain the polls, but not the computers, who still put Ohio State ahead of Oregon, 6 out of 6 times.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSStandings

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
You're so wrong. The pac-10 is always underrated in the season and a lot of the time they prove that they are just as good or better than good SEC and Big-10 schools every year.

If the Pac 10 is so tough, why could none of them even match the performance of midmajor Fresno State when playing USC?

And before you make another ludicrous claim like Fresno State being better than Michigan, you might want to check out their latest game result.

 

[Spineshank]

You cant look at someones record and say whether they are good or not. The Big Ten at one point had OSU, Mich, PSU, NW, Wis, Iowa, and Minn ranked. Thats 7 out of the 11 teams in the Conference ranked. OSU lost to Texas and PSU, Mich lost to Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and OSU. Then look at USC who barely beat ND, barely beat Frenso St. They had a few other tough games where they only really won in the 4th quarter. Texas either played a no one team or barely won. LSU imo is a joke. They got lucky to beat Tenn. Barely won today. I personally feel the best team is Notre Dame. PSU as much as i hate i feel deserver to be top 2. I think they can beat USC and Texas. But they wont get the votes so well be stuck watcing USC kill Texas. I hope PSU gets to play ND though as that will be a great game.

 

[imported_Bassmaster]

Just because the PAC-10 doesn't play on national TV every week and get the publicity as the other schools doesn't mean they aren't as good. Nobody has argued with the Miami and Washington facts I've thrown up there either. I guess since most people in the United States live back east and their games are more publicized they get more attention and more favorable votes.

We get a lot of Pac 10 teams playing here. It works out well because they play so late (for EST). I feel badly about arguing with you. If the Gators only had 1 loss, I'd want them to be considered also. The fact is, in my honest opinion, which means squat to you and anyone else for that matter, is I don't see Oregon as a Top 10 team. I have no doubt at all that you know more about Pac 10 football but that's the way I see it. They haven't beaten the bad teams convinvingly and lost to the only good team they played by 32.

Washington St. Has one of the most high-powered offenses in the nation and has been in close games EVERY WEEK and could easily be a 1-loss team.

I admit it has been a couple weeks since I checked but isn't WSU about 6th in the Pac 10 in offense and 56th nationally?

I remember BYU being undefeated a few years ago and fans were going nuts thinking they should be in the Championship game and ranked higher. They went to the Liberty Bowl I think and lost to Louisville. If you can't beat them you don't deserve to be number 1 and in the Big Game. So maybe that's what people are thinking when they vote on teams with a soft schedule. I don't know.

 

[BlancoNino]

Half the Pac-10 teams were ranked at one point too. The thing is though, I should really blame Oregons athletic director for playing easy non-conference games. Although it should be noted that Nebraska backed out of playing Houston to play the U. of Maine (guess they were scared of houston).

 

[imported_Bassmaster]

You cant look at someones record and say whether they are good or not.

I agree totally. That's why we're looking past Oregons 1 loss season and not saying they should be in the Top 5.

The Big Ten at one point had OSU, Mich, PSU, NW, Wis, Iowa, and Minn ranked. Thats 7 out of the 11 teams in the Conference ranked.

That's why you wait until the end of the season and it's more difinitive. Like now.

OSU lost to Texas and PSU

A team that's undefeated and another which you admit can beat anyone. You saying the Buckeyes are a great team? I agree with you.

Then look at USC who barely beat ND

You said ND's the best team in the country, yet you're saying USC isn't good because they "barely beat them" ?

 

[Zebo]

I know everyone thinks thier conference is the strongest but you should look at Phil Steeles Jeff Sagarin's or Jerry Palm's conference rankings.. They get paid for this, you don't. I believe it goes something like this..

1) Pac-10
2) ACC
3) Big Ten/SEC
5) Big 12
6) Conference USA
7) Big East

And that would be two years in a row that the Pac-10 had the top ranking in all threes computer rankings! For good reason over the last few years SEC has lost 8 out of 10 games to PAC 10.. PAC 10 did similar results for other "big" confernces.

Just sayin' don't let emotion cloud your judgement.

 

[KLin]

fscking bulldogs :thumbsdown::|:roll:

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: gabemcg
was anyone else expecting to see duck porn???

Yes.

Originally posted by: KLin
fscking bulldogs :thumbsdown::|:roll:

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I know everyone thinks thier conference is the strongest but you should look at Phil Steeles Jeff Sagarin's or Jerry Palm's conference rankings.. They get paid for this, you don't. I believe it goes something like this..

1) Pac-10
2) ACC
3) Big Ten/SEC
5) Big 12
6) Conference USA
7) Big East

And that would be two years in a row that the Pac-10 had the top ranking in all threes computer rankings! For good reason over the last few years SEC has lost 8 out of 10 games to PAC 10.. PAC 10 did similar results for other "big" confernces.

Just sayin' don't let emotion cloud your judgement.

uhh no, your list is a little out of date

according to Jeff Sagarins latest: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc05.htm

1 BIG TEN
2 ATLANTIC COAST
3 PAC-10
4 BIG 12
5 SOUTHEASTERN
6 BIG EAST
7 I-A INDEPENDENTS
8 MOUNTAIN WEST
9 CONFERENCE USA
10 MID-AMERICAN

Warren Nolan: http://www.warrennolan.com/football/2005/conferencerank

1 Big Ten
2 Big XII
3 Pac 10
4 ACC
5 Independent
6 SEC
7 Big East
8 Mountain West
9 Conference
10 Mid-American

Those are the only up to date rankings I could find by Googling, and keep in mind the Pac-10 rank is kept afloat by USC.

Even with USC's stats, raw non-conference winning percentage puts the Pac-10 5th

Just sayin' don't let bad data cloud your judgment.

 

[Vic]

The Pac-10 always get screwed and UO worst of all. This is known.

 

[BlancoNino]

Last year Oklahoma got rolled by USC for the title and even lost to them worse than some pretty bad Pac-10 teams.

Oh and there' only one thing I think about Notre Dame...ahem...cough...Tyrone Willingham's team...cough...reap what he built Mr. Weiss...AHEM.

I think it's stupid to fire a coach after only a couple maybe 3 seasons because it takes quite a while to rebuild a team and get them playing the way you want them. Big mistake Notre Dame...and watch out for Washington.