Ducks getting screwed in BCS?

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: kalster

if that is the case USC being much better than others in their conference is the resaon PAC 10 is considered weak? Pac 10 also has a lot of 7-4, 6-5, 5-6 teams.

Basically what I am saying is that the middle of the road ACC teams are good enough to beat the top dogs (Miami, VT, FSU) if they a. have their "A" game, or b. the top dog team does not.

In other words, you have to come to play every weekend in the ACC. USC doesn't have to do that in the Pac 10.

So I'm also saying that USC would have one or two losses if they played an ACC schedule, because they tend to have 2-3 games a season where they take the first half off, or simply don't take the opponent seriously and get in a hole then have to climb out of it.
And if they did that with ACC teams they would lose some. Pac 10 teams evidently aren't good enough to beat USC even when they aren't playing well. I know some will say that's because USC is just that much better, but I don't believe that at all.

Again, let USC play VT, FSU, NC State, GT, Clemson, UMD, BC, and UVA and I will guarantee you that they lose one or two.

THAT is why people say conferences like the ACC or Big 10 are better than the Pac 10.
You can usually include the SEC in that, too, but they are a bit down this year.

 

[kalster]

yeh, I understand that, but its speculation, SC did beat VT last year (and they ended up being the acc champion), because the ACC's eventual champion (FSU) had 3 conference losses you cant say that if USC were in ACC they would loose a few as well, its pure speculation,

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: ElFenix
win their conference, for starters. otherwise you're going to take a backseat to ND if ND is any good at all (which of course happened) and to someone else if that bowl thinks the fans will travel (the fiesta bowl seems to love the buckeyes). that debacle at the holiday bowl last year also didn't make anyone think that putting a pac 10 team other than USC in a bcs game is a good idea. if oregon blows this game to OU the pac 10 won't get two teams in the bcs for several years.

not true, its all a business decision, Oregon may not travel well and Oregon/NotreDame would not be as attractive a match up as Notre Dame/OSU (in the eyes of decision makers)

if bowl results were important, Notre Dame (which has lost like 8-9 bolws wouldnt have got it), similarly Texas last year (after making a similar strong argument the year before only to loss to 3 loss Washington) wouldnt have got lucrative bowls

did you completely miss the first half of my post or what?

 

[kalster]

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[BlancoNino]

Year after year the pac-10 gets trash talked and says they could never beat [insert good eastern team here] and then when bowl games come around they don't get the chance to match them up even if they are a top-10 team...

 

[fustercluck]

The word of this thread is: Overrated. How many times must people say it in sports?

The fact is, the Pac-10 isn't overrated, it just isn't very good. There's a difference. It's not like people praise the pac 10 all the time or anything. USC is the only Pac-10 team that's solid. Really though there arent any good conferences this year, only good select teams from each conference. Only USC, Texas ( both head and shoulders above other teams), Penn state, Ohio state, and Notre Dame are the only great teams this year as i see it. So if you want to say the big 10 is the best conference because it has 2 great teams go ahead. I really think a lot of sports arguments are stupid though;

"The conference i'm nearest to is better than the conference you're nearest too!"

"The teams on the side of the country i live is better than the teams on your half!"

I guess that's part of the fun of sports

 

[conehead433]

Originally posted by: kalster
yeh, I understand that, but its speculation, SC did beat VT last year (and they ended up being the acc champion), because the ACC's eventual champion (FSU) had 3 conference losses you cant say that if USC were in ACC they would loose a few as well, its pure speculation,

SC beat VT last year? LOL Might want to check the game film. They were given that game.