Dual Core Xeon's vs AMD Dual core Opteron's

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GamePC sux@testing. Never trust a place that sells the suff to do benchies ;)

Not saying they didn't get this one right, I haven't even looked yet, but in general their benchies rarely synch with most reputable sites.
 
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I'm, personally, not familiar with their other reviews, but, if this one is correct AMD is going to continue to make serious gains on the X86 server market.
 
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From everything I have read, including Intel execs statements to the press, they know they are behind for a leat the next 12 months.
 
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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
GamePC sux@testing. Never trust a place that sells the suff to do benchies ;)

Not saying they didn't get this one right, I haven't even looked yet, but in general their benchies rarely synch with most reputable sites.
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true...Howvere in recent reviews they have been showing the AMD lower then other sites...so this would be a turn around of their usual built in error....for proof look at some of their older A64 reviews where the have the P4's far more competitive in games then most review sites do...
 
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Taking a quick look at the testbed setup page, I see they didn't even give the Opteron four memory modules so all the memory controllers could get into the act. It is not logical, Captain. :confused:.
 
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My guess looking at those amazing results considering this is basically a XE version since it has HT is that it has to be extremely bandwidth limited or it is throttling...With the tremendous power usage I am wodering if heat is a factor and that lead to some of the biggest gaps I have seen in WMV 9.0 encoding.....Just doesn't jive even looking at the P-D 820s.....

This is not a raving endorsement for companies looking to save on energy...dual core opterons are definitely the way to go....
 
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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
GamePC sux@testing. Never trust a place that sells the suff to do benchies ;)

Not saying they didn't get this one right, I haven't even looked yet, but in general their benchies rarely synch with most reputable sites.
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true...Howvere in recent reviews they have been showing the AMD lower then other sites...so this would be a turn around of their usual built in error....for proof look at some of their older A64 reviews where the have the P4's far more competitive in games then most review sites do...
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That's my point, high...low..they are sloppy and borderline incompetent.

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Oh, and where's my AMD-logo bib when I need it? :p
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Have you been drinkin' young man?!? :D

 
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Those work on my motherboard... Now all I need is another $2600 !!!!
 
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I think part of the problem may be the glitch with windows reported with the Pentium-D extreme edition. Rather than allowing a program to use the 2 physical cores, it would use 1 physical and 1 logical core instead, which will drasticly decrease performance. They should have tried those same tests with hyperthreading disabled, I imagine some of the results would have been drasticly improved.
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Those work on my motherboard... Now all I need is another $2600 !!!!
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Sell the car!!!

*flees*
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My house will be paid off this time next year.. Time for a major upgrade then. I am thinking a 320-2 LSI SCSI controller, 5 15k SCSI drives to replace my 10k ones, and 2 dual or quad core processors by then.
 
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Originally posted by: Griffinhart
AMD is going to continue to make serious gains on the X86 server market.
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Continue to make gains? I don't think I've ever seen an AMD powered device in an enterprise environment.
 
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Originally posted by: jb20thae
Originally posted by: Griffinhart
AMD is going to continue to make serious gains on the X86 server market.
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Continue to make gains? I don't think I've ever seen an AMD powered device in an enterprise environment.
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You really need to read then, They already have 10% of the market and are gaining rapidly. Crawl out from under your rock.
 
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Whatever the reputation of the review site, the chipset they used is not the one intel plans on pushing. Apprently they're partnering up with IBM for a year before woodcrest starts rolling late next year with the X3 series. Even though that is a high end MP chipset IBM has one for DP (DDP?)

paxville is a placeholder an its sole purpose is to slow the market share decline until woodcrest rolls, I heard things like "keep it below 1% a quarter". When working on the thing all the designers knew exactly what it was for, LOL. well, at 1%/qtr until conroe/woodcrest is out, still doing ok on the market share front, saw some good numbers from IDC that should reverse the trend.
 
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Originally posted by: jb20thae
Originally posted by: Griffinhart
AMD is going to continue to make serious gains on the X86 server market.
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Continue to make gains? I don't think I've ever seen an AMD powered device in an enterprise environment.
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Part of that is AMD's fault. When they came to us about 4 years ago, we almost tossed the sales engineer out the door. It is not in your best interest to sell to a big corp by slamming your competition as a sales tactic. Oops.

Now they have some real juice to show. I may need one of those bibs too. (Moves dual 275/285 up the fantasy list behind the Ferrari F430 and Canon XL H1)

 
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Originally posted by: stevty2889
I think part of the problem may be the glitch with windows reported with the Pentium-D extreme edition. Rather than allowing a program to use the 2 physical cores, it would use 1 physical and 1 logical core instead, which will drasticly decrease performance. They should have tried those same tests with hyperthreading disabled, I imagine some of the results would have been drasticly improved.
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I was just coming here to post the same thought. Although it would be nice to test with and without HyperThreading enabled, by default 99% of the customers will leave it on, so this is real world performance. This also did not seem to be an issue when the P4EE was released with dual cores and HT.
 
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Another article on the new Paxvilles...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/20/intel_pax_bench/
It uses the GamePC review as a benchmark for most of it (anybody know when AT is reviewing this thing?)
Most amuzing is the picture at the bottom of page 1...it has the caption
"Intel server chip chief Pat Gelsinger. Behind him, Paxville is caught during a critical phase of its boot sequence"
 
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