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Drunk Driver Faces Long Prison Sentence

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<< I think I once heard about a device that somehow connects to the ignition of a car... Evidently it's a breathalizer test that won't let you start your car if you don't pass. Anyone heard about this? >>

Yup, HotChic, yup.

In fact, my (semi) idiot friend Norm has one on his Dodge K-car convertible (he be stylin' !:roll😉 right now. He had to pay for it himself ($800 - $1,000, if I recall correctly).

LOL, he has to give his car non-alcoholic head before he can drive! It's a whole procedure. There's even a synthesized voice that directs him to blow harder, longer, etc. The great thing about the design is that it will randomly make him pull over and repeat the test before he even gets home, so no stupid "good buddy" can enable him to drive home drunk by initially doing the test for him.

He can still be an idiot, though. I drove down to Philly 'cause he'd scored free 76'ers tickets (he works in Philly and commutes by train). He and a buddy of his had a couple of tubs of suds at the game, then insisted on hitting the bars afterwards. I drove him home, and he insisted on going out of the way to stop at his car to see if he could drive it, which was definitely "no way, Jose", and I knew it. I just wanted to get home, you know, and I had another 45 minute drive after I dropped him off in scenic Lansdale, Pa. Oh, well, what are friends for?
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I finally sat him down and did a gentle, but thourough, one man intervention. To his credit, he really took it to heart and has cleaned up his "Hello, I'm Mr. DrinkTooMuch act". He even met a good woman at some seminar down in Maryland (he's a therapist, fer cryin' out loud) and he's committed and in love. She even looks a lot like you HotChic, which to my mind is a very, very, good thing! 😀


 
Jail time is not the answer. Clinical treatment is. She has an addiction and seems incapable of correcting it on her own. Throw her in jail and you are just wasting a life.

37.5 years is obscene, but not too surprising in our ridiculous "send 'em all to jail" society.
 
"Jail time is not the answer...."

Don't worry, thanks to bleeding hearts like yourself, she'll probably be out in three weeks with good behavior :disgust:
 


<< Jail time is not the answer. Clinical treatment is. She has an addiction and seems incapable of correcting it on her own. Throw her in jail and you are just wasting a life.

37.5 years is obscene, but not too surprising in our ridiculous "send 'em all to jail" society. >>



How many years have we been drilled with the message that it's bad to drink and drive? Fortunately she didn't kill anyone. That doesn't mean she isn't a threat to society and shouldn't dry out in the local pen. Nobody has an excuse anymore for endangering innocent lives by drinking and driving. This "send em to jail society" needs more jails not more psychiatrists.
 
The "Hockey Dad" killed someone and got 6 years....so that tells you how messed up our system is.....She probably deserves 5 years. 5 year sentence means she'd get out in 2-3 years or so (with good behavior)....

 
Some of you "armchair judges" don't realize the burden you are placing on someone by committing them to 37.5 years of prison. Fine, she broke the law, several times. But there was no bodily injury or harm. Yes, you might expect that in the future she might drive drunk again, but what's jail going to do for her? Why should society effectively steal her life, when she hasn't taken anyone else's?

This woman COULD be an otherwise productive citizen and a loving mother with a major drinking/judgement problem. I really don't know anything about Nutter, but we should first try to help her get over her problem. I think this is a problem that can be massaged with therapy and treatment. Jail is essentialy a selfish easy-way-out by society. Society doesn't want to "deal with Nutter", so lock her up and forget all about her. The cost of treatment is obviously not an issue because you don't want to know how much the state will spend to incarcerate her for 37.5 years.
 
Normally, I am pretty strict. But those alcohal levels indicate a personal problem.

Prison is not the answer.

This person needs her license pulled ASAP, and manditory rehabilitation.

Alcohalism is a disease in this case (although not all cases, but look at those levels!).

Anyway, no car for her and I am happy. Prison is for murderers. Alcoholics are fine just keep them out from behind the wheel of cars.

jeremy806
 
37 and a half years is way to much time for someone with drunk driving. You have people commiting first degree murder getting less time than that. She hasn't killed anyone, and if she did that would only be charged as manslaughter normally. I would give her 6 months, take away her car, and than some rehab. Take away her license for the next 10 years also. 37.5 years in jail and she'll be dead.
 
From a lefty's point of view, nobody is EVER responsible for their actions. Nobody EVER! It wasn't Clinton's fault he whipped it out in front of Paula Jones, it was the vast right wing conspiracy. It wasn't Rodney King's fault he ran from the cops in a high speed chase, it was the cop's fault for chasing him! It's not your fault if you have 6 kids by four different unknown fathers, it's "the man" keeping you down (to be fvcked repeatedly, apparently). It ain't your fault you have to rob liquor stores for money, it's business owners' fault for expecting you to work for it instead!
 
A drunk driver hit my fatehr, and almost killed him. The drunk did not survive, Something about a sports car hitting a UPS sized truck that can do that.

35+ years is too much IMHO. Definately should get some jail time, if only to teack a lesson. 1-5 years. Longer than one, but shorter than 5. He will never drink again.

If you get arrested 2 days in a row, that is pretty sad.
 
She did not hurt anyone yet.

I did not saying that it was or was not her fault.

What I am saying is that when possible, people should be rehabilitated.

And, in the case of a drunk, rehabilitation is possible.

Don't make silly generalizations. A drunk is not the same as a murderer.

Jeremy806
 
First of all, she hasn't been sentenced. A judge will make a fair call hopefully. If he's a 'lefty' judge, she'll get kid glove treatment and a hug. If it's a 'law and order' judge (what a concept), she'll do some time. I move that she does time. She's obviously been slapped on the wrist with no good coming from it. How many chances do you have to give these people?

Is alcoholism an excuse for everything now? if you shoot somebody while on alcohol, you're held blameless? if you shoot at somebody while drunk... treatment time? Typical...
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I believe in capital punishment for everything but minor traffic violations, and I am on Jury Duty this month! 😉
 
I'd give her 5 years probation. And suspend her license for 3 years.
If she drives with suspended license or drinks and drives, send her to jail.
No need to waste taxpayer money on this right away.
 


<< From a lefty's point of view, nobody is EVER responsible for their actions. Nobody EVER! >>


What did she do that justifies a possible 37.5 years of jail? Can you point to another person's financial or bodily loss? Do you think she INTENDED to harm when she got in her car? No. She simply has a dangerous condition that needs to be treated.


<< How many chances do you have to give these people? Is alcoholism an excuse for everything now? if you shoot somebody while on alcohol, you're held blameless? if you shoot at somebody while drunk... treatment time? Typical...
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She certainly shouldn't be allowed to drive. How long she should be forbidden to drive is beyond my legal judgment, but throwing her in the pen is a senseless "get tough on crime" response. I think the "bleeding heart" path is a bit tolerable in this instance because you cannot point to a victim. She didn't kill anybody. She certainly could have, but we have the luxury of preventing a possible future tragedy by treating her condition while simultaneously preventing her life from becoming a complete waste.

Her husband and son were killed and she has cancer. Perhaps she is predisposed to depression and alcohol is her way out. Simply having a condition is not going to get her off the hook for any fell action she commits, but I believe we have an obligation to consider more than just jail time as a response to her problem.

Jail, jail, jail. Same old refrain. Sure has helped out in the War on Drugs, didn't it?
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<< She did not hurt anyone yet.

I did not saying that it was or was not her fault.

What I am saying is that when possible, people should be rehabilitated.

And, in the case of a drunk, rehabilitation is possible.

Don't make silly generalizations. A drunk is not the same as a murderer.

Jeremy806 >>





I agree with what you are saying, but the BAC levels of this lady are absolutely astounding! :Q Im surprised she didnt pass out or die at the wheel for how high those BAC's are!!! In any case, 5 years prison, 5-7 no liscense. Mandatory rehab.
 


<< Some of you "armchair judges" don't realize the burden you are placing on someone by committing them to 37.5 years of prison. Fine, she broke the law, several times. But there was no bodily injury or harm. Yes, you might expect that in the future she might drive drunk again, but what's jail going to do for her? Why should society effectively steal her life, when she hasn't taken anyone else's?

This woman COULD be an otherwise productive citizen and a loving mother with a major drinking/judgement problem. I really don't know anything about Nutter, but we should first try to help her get over her problem. I think this is a problem that can be massaged with therapy and treatment. Jail is essentialy a selfish easy-way-out by society. Society doesn't want to "deal with Nutter", so lock her up and forget all about her. The cost of treatment is obviously not an issue because you don't want to know how much the state will spend to incarcerate her for 37.5 years. >>



Screw her "burden". She obviously does not give a damn or cannot control herself. Why do you want to wait until AFTER she kills someone to intervene. The chances are good she will maul or kill someone. She should never be allowed to drive again. If she cannot or will not seek treatment and insists on driving in spite of all this, then she needs to be locked up where she cannot harm people. I do feel sorry for her and I do hope ther is another alternative, but I am not willing to risk the lives of people I care about because someone has issues.
 


<< I would have taken her license for several years after second offense and if she drove following that THEN give her prison time. >>




I would have revoked her license for causing MVA while DUII. Then second time 3yr prision, 3rd time, the max allowed by law.

She should know better than repeating samething four times.
 
37.5 years sounds like a lite sentance to me. It's a miracle she hasn't killed anyone yet. And just revoking her license wouldn't do anything since people like that obviously don't care about the law or other people, they will still drive without the license.

 
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