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SunSamurai said:
If you're doing shit the company doesn't want you to do, its not fuck them, its FUCK YOU. Youre free to find another job. If you want to cheat and get someone to piss in a cup for you like some fucking lowlife, and I was your employer, youd be out on your ass and Id be sure to mention your deception and drug habit if your next prospective employment called my offices.
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You don't have to have someone piss in a cup for you. You can by dehydrated urine online. And how would you know someone was cheating to throw them out on there ass lol. Nevermind all that. If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound? If I smoke a doobie and do my job and nobody is the wiser does it fucking matter?
 
IceBergSLiM said:
You don't have to have someone piss in a cup for you. You can by dehydrated urine online. And how would you know someone was cheating to throw them out on there ass lol. Nevermind all that. If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound? If I smoke a doobie and do my job and nobody is the wiser does it fucking matter?
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Do I have to link the definition of fraud for you?
 
lxskllr said:
Yea, because employment is life, and the employer has the right to dictate every facet of it :^S
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well it's been pretty proven most pot smokers become potheads. That's alot of the stigma these days.

It hurts those that are mature about smoking and don't bring it to their job.
 
Having employees who are high at work (and I have yet to meet in person a pot smoker who doesn't think he or she functions just fine high and can hide it at work, though there seem to be more people online that are responsible about it) is a liability for employers and I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to make it a condition of employment. It's also perfectly reasonable for you not to choose to work there if you don't agree with their condition.

I feel the same way about cigarettes and alcohol; it's the employer's right to determine the type of person they want to hire based on any criteria other than protected classes (race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.) I may not want to work at some of those companies but private industry is private and should therefore be able to run their business as they see fit.
 
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AreaCode707 said:
Having employees who are high at work (and I have yet to meet in person a pot smoker who doesn't think he or she functions just fine high and can hide it at work, though there seem to be more people online that are responsible about it) is a liability for employers and I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to make it a condition of employment. It's also perfectly reasonable for you not to choose to work there if you don't agree with their condition.

I feel the same way about cigarettes and alcohol; it's the employer's right to determine the type of person they want to hire based on any criteria other than protected classes (race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.) I may not want to work at some of those companies but private industry is private and should therefore be able to run their business as they see fit.
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nobody said anything about being high at work though. A drug test doesn't prove or disprove this.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
nobody said anything about being high at work though. A drug test doesn't prove or disprove this.
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Anecdotally I've found that pot smokers will often think they've got their high under control and are willing to come to work that way, so if you weed out the smokers (no pun intended) then you remove that risk. Also, someone who is willing to skirt the law in one small way may be willing to skirt it in another small way. Pot smoking isn't a cause of anything like that, but it can be an indicator of when an employee is higher risk.

And I support employers' rights to make their own criteria, whether that's related to drug use or the number of clouds in the sky on a given day. An employer who chooses good criteria will figure out what they need to do to have a strong workforce; a employer who chooses bad criteria will eventually go out of business.
 
TheVrolok said:
While I don't really care whether or not you smoke pot, and I don't think they should be testing for it, saying it's harmless is ignorant. 😛
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It may not be harmless, but it's relatively benign compared to other substances (cocaine, prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco etc.).
 
KeithTalent said:
You should move up here Heller, no drug testing in most normal person jobs.

I still find it crazy there is drug testring for even the most mundane jobs in the US. Seems like an invasion of privacy to me and it's not like they test for alcoholism, or any other factors that may impact your work.

KT
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Also if you read up on drug testing, 90% of the time they only test for Pot.
Like you can be a meth addict and pass the test.
 
AreaCode707 said:
Anecdotally I've found that pot smokers will often think they've got their high under control and are willing to come to work that way, so if you weed out the smokers (no pun intended) then you remove that risk. Also, someone who is willing to skirt the law in one small way may be willing to skirt it in another small way. Pot smoking isn't a cause of anything like that, but it can be an indicator of when an employee is higher risk.

And I support employers' rights to make their own criteria, whether that's related to drug use or the number of clouds in the sky on a given day. An employer who chooses good criteria will figure out what they need to do to have a strong workforce; a employer who chooses bad criteria will eventually go out of business.
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absolutely. If they want to test so be it. As I said before. They have every right to test and the prospect has every right to cheat.(unless its a federal job in which case you probably are committing some type of crime)
 
SunSamurai said:
If you're doing shit the company doesn't want you to do, its not fuck them, its FUCK YOU. Youre free to find another job. If you want to cheat and get someone to piss in a cup for you like some fucking lowlife, and I was your employer, youd be out on your ass and Id be sure to mention your deception and drug habit if your next prospective employment called my offices.
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No no no... FUCK YOU. Why would I need to find another job when your bitch ass will never know if I cheated? 😀
 
Tangerines said:
It may not be harmless, but it's relatively benign compared to other substances (cocaine, prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco etc.).
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It's no more benign than alcohol or tobacco. But for the most part I agree, which is why I don't think it should be tested.
 
AreaCode707 said:
Anecdotally I've found that pot smokers will often think they've got their high under control and are willing to come to work that way, so if you weed out the smokers (no pun intended) then you remove that risk. Also, someone who is willing to skirt the law in one small way may be willing to skirt it in another small way. Pot smoking isn't a cause of anything like that, but it can be an indicator of when an employee is higher risk.

And I support employers' rights to make their own criteria, whether that's related to drug use or the number of clouds in the sky on a given day. An employer who chooses good criteria will figure out what they need to do to have a strong workforce; a employer who chooses bad criteria will eventually go out of business.
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I've seen, and sent home, way more people due to being drunk/hungover than I ever have from them being high and this is in a city where it is pretty much legal, and during tenures in two very different industries.

We don't track this, but if I had to hazard a guess, the number of man hours we lose to booze is over 10x as high (probably higher) than the man hours we lose to any "illegal" substances like pot, etc.

I'm not condoning being high at work, I don't think anyone should be taking drugs of any kind (except prescribed meds, which are a whole other ball of wax really) including booze, while under someone's employ, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all.

KT
 
IceBergSLiM said:
op is a dick because someone bought used electronics and paid too much? pffftt🙄
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No, he's a dick because he chose to withhold information from his customer. Apparently you disagree, but a quick read through that thread shows most think a decent person would lower the price/inform the buyer of their concerns.
 
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