Drudge Headline: 'HEALTHY' LUNCHES SPARK RAT INFESTATION

[emperus]

And honestly, my question was rhetorical. As this is what the conservative movement has become; howling at the moon. From Benghazi, to ISIS, to Ebola, to healthy school lunches. It seems they are led from one made up outrage to another. I find it even hard to understand what the underlying goals and ideological agenda of the movement are.

 

[Spungo]

Blythe said the program has been most successful during breakfast.

What happened to the concept of feeding your own damn kids? My parents would probably be in jail if they refused to feed me breakfast every day. It sounds like it's an accepted fact of life in that city.

 

[Bowfinger]

So you actually think that I'm implicitly supporting "my" lunatic fringe? Wow, just wow. The OP asked "Is this what the conservative movement has boiled down to?" and my comments were directed at the type of mentality that asks such a ludicrous question. You see a messenger...I see a hack. That's my $0.02.

Yes, and by continuing to refuse to repudiate these conservatives, you are letting them speak for you and implicitly accepting their message. (Perhaps you misunderstand the word "implicit"?) Indeed, I don't believe any conservatives have used this thread to speak out against their lunatic fringe. In any case, the two options are not mutually exclusive. You can consider the OP a hack and simultaneously berate the Drudgers.

 

[Bowfinger]

And honestly, my question was rhetorical. As this is what the conservative movement has become; howling at the moon. From Benghazi, to ISIS, to Ebola, to healthy school lunches. It seems they are led from one made up outrage to another. I find it even hard to understand what the underlying goals and ideological agenda of the movement are.

That's not the entire conservative movement. That's just the vocal fringe that's grabbing the stage (and showing up for the primaries). They are outnumbered by more reasoned conservatives who, for whatever reason, are unwilling to break ranks and condemn their fringe.

 

[boomerang]

Is this what the conservative movement has boiled down to?

How very astute of you! Naw, j/k! You come across as an emotional wreck with a major case of the vapors. Take a Midol and get in a darkened room.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I am curious why you are pretending not to know what role the Drudge Report plays in the Conservative sphere.

I am also curios why you are pending as if this Drudge Headline in relation to Obama's lunch changes is a one off thing limited to drudge and not part of the meme of the mainstream Conservative movement.

Frankly, the only time I look at Drudge Report is when some liberal is outraged about something it said and I've never ever thought of it as "the meme of the mainstream Conservative movement". I learned something today. After a little research I'm actually surprised how successful this site is...it loads very slow and most all the content is just links to off-site articles. Anyway, they just linked to a local SF CBS News article without any commentary...just a headline that says "'HEALTHY' LUNCHES SPARK RAT INFESTATION..." with a picture of Michelle holding a carrot. I'm really trying to be outraged here...but I've failed miserably. Sorry.

 

[Greenman]

You do know how Drudge works correct? I assume even they realized how idiotic is was to be blasting a story about a Rat infestation because a school district is actually serving "FRESH" food.

I don't know how drudge works. I visited the site once and found a confusing mash of headlines. Since it appeared to be predominantly hyperbole, I didn't read much and I've never been back.

I tend not to waste time following what the fringe on either side of the political spectrum are doing. Most of those involved are doing it for money or stupidity.

 

[Remobz]

I smell a 'rat" with this thread.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, and by continuing to refuse to repudiate these conservatives, you are letting them speak for you and implicitly accepting their message. (Perhaps you misunderstand the word "implicit"?) Indeed, I don't believe any conservatives have used this thread to speak out against their lunatic fringe. In any case, the two options are not mutually exclusive. You can consider the OP a hack and simultaneously berate the Drudgers.

I understand the meaning of the word "implicit" quite well thank you. Are you trying to be condescending or does it just come natural? Using your logic, Muslims who don't publicly repudiate their lunatic fringe are implicitly accepting their message. Or is that somehow different?

Anyway, I know that this may be hard for some to believe, but I don't have any opinion regarding Drudge report as I've only briefly viewed their site a handful of times. As such, the fact that you think I need to berate it is beyond my ability to comprehend.

 

[bshole]

Evidently in the SF liberal movement the rats are what's getting boiled down.

For whatever reason, that struck me as incredibly funny. Well done sir!

 

[boomerang]

I don't know how drudge works. I visited the site once and found a confusing mash of headlines.

It's just a site with links to other sites. Drudge creates whatever title he wants for the links. Some go to reputable sites and some go to questionable sites. Progressives, feeling that they are the smartest people around, get really concerned about information that is not filtered and sanitized first by media outlets sympathetic to their cause. They would prefer that everybody gets the same information that they do with the spin that they prefer.

It's ridiculous and to be blunt, I have no more patience for their antics. Controlling the narrative has never worked for me and I can't imagine that it ever will. I don't want to live in a nation where the five year plan is on track to be completed in four, where next Tuesday will bring another glorious victory to the people and where the beet crop this year has exceed that of the prior year. Progz want propaganda doled out to the masses, I want to decide for myself what to believe and what not to believe under the umbrella of freedom.

 

[lotus503]

It's just a site with links to other sites. Drudge creates whatever title he wants for the links. Some go to reputable sites and some go to questionable sites. Progressives, feeling that they are the smartest people around, get really concerned about information that is not filtered and sanitized first by media outlets sympathetic to their cause. They would prefer that everybody gets the same information that they do with the spin that they prefer.

It's ridiculous and to be blunt, I have no more patience for their antics. Controlling the narrative has never worked for me and I can't imagine that it ever will. I don't want to live in a nation where the five year plan is on track to be completed in four, where next Tuesday will bring another glorious victory to the people and where the beet crop this year has exceed that of the prior year. Progz want propaganda doled out to the masses, I want to decide for myself what to believe and what not to believe under the umbrella of freedom.

In my experience much like fox news conservatives I know treat drudge like legit news. I cant tell you how many times during discussions with conservative friends on Facebook, drudge gets linked as some conservative truth fountain.

 

[emperus]

That's not the entire conservative movement. That's just the vocal fringe that's grabbing the stage (and showing up for the primaries). They are outnumbered by more reasoned conservatives who, for whatever reason, are unwilling to break ranks and condemn their fringe.

Yes, that may be the case. There may be a few sane conservatives who "think" they have great ideas and see this stupidity for what it is; stupidity. But the caricature of what Drudge posted today is what I believe and what I think most honest people would argue the present day conservative movement has boiled down to.

I think Doc Savage is trying to argue that not all are like that. Noone ever claimed that. But the vast vocal majority that the politicians seem to cow tow to are. And just because he doesn't want to believe that the Drudge Report is a reflection of what the conservative movement is. It is.

 

[brycejones]

Drudge and the conservative outrage over healthy food in schools.

LOL

 

[Atreus21]

It clearly doesn't embody all conservatives, but that's hardly the point. The point is it embodies a very vocal, very visible subset of conservatives. This lunatic fringe tends to drown out the majority of conservatives who are more reasoned. It doesn't help that you are using this as an opportunity to attack the left -- thus implicitly supporting your lunatic fringe -- instead of repudiating the Drudgers as idiots who do not speak for you.

It's similar to the majority of Muslims who aren't terrorists, the majority of police officers who aren't thugs, etc. When the majority who are good remain silent, the bad apples come to be seen as representative of the whole. You can uselessly attack the messenger, or you can speak out against the bad apples who taint your good name.

My $0.02

Every single news outlet in existence has made and still makes stupid content on occasion. I look at Drudge Report every single day. Some stuff's good. Other stuff's ridiculous. We'll file this headline under Ridiculous. There isn't some Secret Cabal of Lunatic Fringe Conservatives who do nothing all day other than inject Drudge Report directly into their cerebral cortex then inflict their dogma on a vulnerable populace.

Unlike Islam. There really is a lunatic fringe there. We know them by name and by act. They have the cred to be referred to as lunatics.

Liberals don't need to fall all over themselves to repudiate all of MSNBC, nor conservatives all of Fox News, whenever someone says something silly.

 

[emperus]

How very astute of you! Naw, j/k! You come across as an emotional wreck with a major case of the vapors. Take a Midol and get in a darkened room.

ad hominem away.... Good for you sir.

 

[emperus]

Every single news outlet in existence has made and still makes stupid content on occasion. I look at Drudge Report every single day. Some stuff's good. Other stuff's ridiculous. We'll file this headline under Ridiculous. There isn't some Secret Cabal of Lunatic Fringe Conservatives who do nothing all day other than inject Drudge Report directly into their cerebral cortex then inflict their dogma on a vulnerable populace.

Unlike Islam. There really is a lunatic fringe there. We know them by name and by act. They have the cred to be referred to as lunatics.

Liberals don't need to fall all over themselves to repudiate all of MSNBC, nor conservatives all of Fox News, whenever someone says something silly.

I'll give you credit for calling it ridiculous, but until you can point out another respected (well, respected in the terms that it drives daily news) News outlet (or aggregator) that puts up routinely ridiculous titles, the rest of your post sounds like deflection.

 

[DrDoug]

This is what happens when schools start serving real foods. Rats like good nutrition too! :biggrin:

 

[Zaap]

So...

Bitching about Drudge reposting a news story and supposedly making much ado about nothing while...

...reposting the news story, making much ado about nothing and flailing about wildly/blaming conservatives for... something.


*eyeroll*

Crazy liberals at it again.

 

[Atreus21]

I'll give you credit for calling it ridiculous, but until you can point out another respected (well, respected in the terms that it drives daily news) News outlet (or aggregator) that puts up routinely ridiculous titles, the rest of your post sounds like deflection.

First, Drudge Report does not put up routinely ridiculous titles. Secondly, it's not ridiculous titles, it's ridiculous content, by which I mean very biased content. I suppose you might disagree with me there.

For example, did you see how the more liberal outlets tried to spin the midterms into essentially saying that Republicans lost?

Yahoo did it:

http://news.yahoo.com/how-hillary-clinton-won-the-2014-midterms-075943434.html

New York Times did it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/opinion/the-midterms-were-not-a-republican-revolution.html

The New York Times even advocated cancelling the midterms entirely.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/03/opinion/cancel-the-midterms.html

 

[cubby1223]

An internet website gave an article a headline that caused people to notice it!

Oh the humanity of it all!

 

[boomerang]

In my experience much like fox news conservatives I know treat drudge like legit news. I cant tell you how many times during discussions with conservative friends on Facebook, drudge gets linked as some conservative truth fountain.

Yeah and the left has their "truth fountains" aplenty. If you want to control what I see, expect a fight. Conversely, I really don't care what you see. I think you should retain the right to choose. Maybe that's a fundamental difference between us and maybe it isn't.

 

[boomerang]

An internet website gave an article a headline that caused people to notice it!

Oh the humanity of it all!

You pretty much condensed it right down. In the end it's just journalism.

 

[Bowfinger]

I understand the meaning of the word "implicit" quite well thank you. Are you trying to be condescending or does it just come natural? Using your logic, Muslims who don't publicly repudiate their lunatic fringe are implicitly accepting their message. Or is that somehow different?

It is the same, and it creates the same issue. All Muslims become tainted by the actions of their fringe because too few Muslims speak out against them. Note that this does not mean all Muslims are terrorists, just as this doesn't mean you're one of the wing-nut lunatic fringe. But, in both cases, when the fringe elements of one's ideology are not shouted down by the mainstream, the fringe becomes the face associated with the ideology. It's a matter of perception, accurate or not.

Anyway, I know that this may be hard for some to believe, but I don't have any opinion regarding Drudge report as I've only briefly viewed their site a handful of times. As such, the fact that you think I need to berate it is beyond my ability to comprehend.

I'm not suggesting you're a Drudge regular or that you need to condemn Drudge as a whole. I'm focused specifically on this story and suggesting you might repudiate it. I replied to you specifically because you've often shown that you are one of the more reasoned conservatives and not the fringe.

But you're a big boy and you certainly don't need me to tell you what to do. My initial intent was to offer a simple observation, that by attacking the left instead of the nutter loons embracing this asinine story, you tend to get associated with those loons. That was my $0.02. I fully recognize your right to respond or not respond as you see fit.

 

[Bowfinger]

Every single news outlet in existence has made and still makes stupid content on occasion. I look at Drudge Report every single day. Some stuff's good. Other stuff's ridiculous. We'll file this headline under Ridiculous. There isn't some Secret Cabal of Lunatic Fringe Conservatives who do nothing all day other than inject Drudge Report directly into their cerebral cortex then inflict their dogma on a vulnerable populace.

This specific story was the focus of my comment, not Drudge as a whole. Yes, this sort of trash is common on Drudge, but I'm happy to hear they have legitimate content too. The problem with mixing turds with gems is the gems tend to disappear in the sewage.

Unlike Islam. There really is a lunatic fringe there. We know them by name and by act. They have the cred to be referred to as lunatics.

Sorry, the right very definitely has a lunatic fringe, including at least a couple of semi-regular P&N posters. The left has a lunatic fringe as well. The Islamic fringe is certainly far more violent, no question, but violence is not a prerequisite for "lunatic fringe" (and both of our fringe elements have sometimes turned to violence, sadly).

Liberals don't need to fall all over themselves to repudiate all of MSNBC, nor conservatives all of Fox News, whenever someone says something silly.

True, but when such a silly article draws criticism, you risk guilt by association when you remain silent, or even worse, when you attack the critic instead of the silly article. That's my point. If your side does something stupid, don't defend it or deflect it. Distinguish yourself from the stupid by joining the criticism. Or not, it IS a free country.