Drone came within 200 feet of airliner over New York at 1,750 ft

[Druidx]

Yes, but i'm talking about a total ban on radio controlled aircraft for all civilians.

A few years ago when drones were making headlines, there was someithing going through congress to make the FAA clarify the difference between a hobby RC and a drone. I don't know what ever happened with it.

 

[zanejohnson]

wtf you think is gonna happen!!! of course you can't fly your stupid drones!!! there is planes with people in the sky!!!

 

[Fern]

I somehow think this was a remote control plane that went off course rather than a drone. Maybe it was sucked up into an updraft and that's why it was flying at that altitude.

Yeah, I'm thinking an RC aircraft.

Possibly. It's kinda hard to see a 3' remote controlled plane at 1,750 feet.

Guys, check this out. here's a group that flies their RC aircraft up to 2,500 ft. Apparently the controller they use is rated for up to 3,000 ft.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=791711

Fern

 

[tweaker2]

I've seen guys lose control of their RC's from flying them out of range of their remotes and their craft just kept on flying in the general heading it was last on, minus wind and up/down draft effects. Looks like registered serial numbers for all RC's in the near future.

 

[Doppel]

A mile range is easy for RC now, but as mentioned seeing even a large craft at 1750 feet is definitely not easy, so the range in most transmitters is way better than one can possibly fly the thing. Automation is ever-cheaper and the military has no monopoly on drone type craft.

 

[Darwin333]

yeah what happens when you build a drone with a micro processor say a credit card size raspberry pi or just an android phone with a custom app connected to the net and 10 megapixel camera with 30x optical zoom lens that can stay in the air for 48++ hours with enough fire power to kill a 20x20' square area ... Basically a fling kite with a few grenades stealth electric motors / solar to recharge the batts and very aerodynamic to stay in the air for days searching / hunting for a face ... when it finds it ... it swoops in "KABOOM" for the kill. Will be a whole new interesting field. Won't even need a human operator... A silent killer ... Just upload a few photos of your target/GPS work or Home address, send a few of them up and game over... Just wait for the loud bang...

I mean really...... How hard would it be to make one? With todays tech you could probably do it in a few months ... High profile people should probably be worried as tech keeps getting smaller and more efficient.

We had the stealth bomber for darn near a decade before the .gov publicly announced that we had it. So I always think that our .mil hardware could easily be a decade old by the time we see it. Frankly I would be surprised if we didn't already have what you described.

 

[Darwin333]

Obviously drones are too dangerous for the public to own and operate. The government needs to do something to get them out of the wrong hands and keep them exclusively in the hands of the police and the military.

With the way 3D printers are developing pretty soon your type won't be able to keep a damn thing out of peoples hands. I even read about a new type of printer that can actually make (or print) pharmaceuticals. This is a rather new technology too, where do you think it will be in 10 years? That must frighten the shit out of you.

 

[ElFenix]

why would he be over brooklyn if he's going into 31R?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74682890/

Congratulations, you've been harassed by a model airplane.

 

[monovillage]

With the way 3D printers are developing pretty soon your type won't be able to keep a damn thing out of peoples hands. I even read about a new type of printer that can actually make (or print) pharmaceuticals. This is a rather new technology too, where do you think it will be in 10 years? That must frighten the shit out of you.

It was a joke Darwin, I was just echoing the gun grabber mantra of trying to deny firearms to citizens.

 

[Rifter]

200 feet away is a little close for comfort guys, thats just insane. They need to do some serious regulation on these things including stiff penalties including harsh jail time.

We dont want some jackass flying his drone into a engine on takeoff or landing and killing 200+ people.

I would even go as far as to say SAM's at airports might be a good idea so if any unidentified drone enters airspare controlled by the tower they can just shoot it down before it has the chance to bring down a airliner.

 

[Exterous]

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74682890/

Congratulations, you've been harassed by a model airplane.

Thats just what the men in the black SUVs want you to think.

 

[Exterous]

I would even go as far as to say SAM's at airports might be a good idea so if any unidentified drone enters airspare controlled by the tower they can just shoot it down before it has the chance to bring down a airliner.

I don't know if a single near miss is a reason to militarize our airports. I don't think that would be cheap either

 

[halik]

Drone != rc aircraft.

 

[ElFenix]

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74682890/

Congratulations, you've been harassed by a model airplane.

that picture highlights runway 31L. how hard can it be to fact check that?

 

[ericlp]

Yes, but i'm talking about a total ban on radio controlled aircraft for all civilians.

Maybe we can get a TOTAL gun ban too?

The sad part is, that your not getting is, these are flying computers not remote controlled. RF doesn't have the range. But if you had a cell phone tied to the net ... That would expand your range considerably.

Maybe we should ban all cell phones? Hmmm, while were at it, let's ban solar cells and brushless electric motors!

Sigh.......

 

[Tylanner]

Haven't you heard? The hot new thing is subterranean drones. They recognize you heat signature and cause a targeted, natural looking sinkhole right under the victim.

 

[Darwin333]

It was a joke Darwin, I was just echoing the gun grabber mantra of trying to deny firearms to citizens.

Damn, thats like the 2nd time this week. Stupid cheap Chinese sarcasm detectors...

 

[ShawnD1]

Unaccounted for, untracked and unreported. 5 miles this time, collision the next time. There are air space rules for a reason.

We should let the free market handle this. If people want to buy drones that are capable of flying high enough to crash into commercial jets, we should allow it.

 

[Darwin333]

200 feet away is a little close for comfort guys, thats just insane. They need to do some serious regulation on these things including stiff penalties including harsh jail time.

We dont want some jackass flying his drone into a engine on takeoff or landing and killing 200+ people.

I would even go as far as to say SAM's at airports might be a good idea so if any unidentified drone enters airspare controlled by the tower they can just shoot it down before it has the chance to bring down a airliner.

Firing SAMs from US Airports that tend to be located in and around the most populated places we have to combat an issue that to my knowledge has caused no deaths in recent history, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[ShawnD1]

Firing SAMs from US Airports that tend to be located in and around the most populated places we have to combat an issue that to my knowledge has caused no deaths in recent history, what could possibly go wrong?

Shrapnel raining down on metro areas won't be a problem as long as we make a law saying that everyone is required to wear a helmet

 

[Yreka]

Oh Anthony, I thought you lived on Long Island?

 

[WelshBloke]

Firing SAMs from US Airports that tend to be located in and around the most populated places we have to combat an issue that to my knowledge has caused no deaths in recent history, what could possibly go wrong?

Would a SAM even be able to track a device that small?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Would a SAM even be able to track a device that small?

• Radar cross section is to small
  • Any regular plane within 1000 feet would be in danger unless the on-board computer was designed to only accept something smaller than a Piper cub/equivalent
• No heat signature
  • Any regular plane within 500 feet would be in danger
  • 15 degree angle w/ respect to the sun is blocked out.
• Optics
  • At that range would require the SAM to draw a bead on the object before launch.
  • Can human eye see that far to locate something that small.
  • How else would one be able to aim the missile if you can not see where to aim.
    Slave to the radar - possible; not very feasible.

NOPE:

 

[WelshBloke]

Radar cross section is to small.
No heat signature
Optics at that range would require the SAM to draw a bead on the object before launch


NOPE:

Thats what I figured.