Driving through Texas can be hazardous to your wallet if you're black

Phokus

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http://www.latimes.com/news/na...09mar11,0,507135.story

A lawsuit alleges that the town's police pull over motorists -- especially African Americans -- and extort money and valuables by threatening criminal charges or worse.
By Howard Witt
March 11, 2009
Reporting from Tenaha, Texas -- You can drive into this dusty fleck of a town near the Texas-Louisiana state line if you're African American, but you might not be able to drive out of it -- at least not with your car, your cash, your jewelry or other valuables.

That's because the police here allegedly have found a way to strip motorists, many of them black, of their property without ever charging them with a crime. Instead they offer out-of-towners a grim choice: Sign over your belongings to the town, or face felony charges of money laundering or other serious crimes.



* Crime or no crime, motorists pay
Crime or no crime, motorists pay

More than 140 people reluctantly accepted that deal from June 2006 to June 2008, according to court records. Among them were a black grandmother from Akron, Ohio, who surrendered $4,000 in cash after Tenaha police pulled her over, and an interracial couple from Houston, who gave up more than $6,000 after police threatened to seize their children and put them into foster care, the court documents show. Neither the grandmother nor the couple were charged with or convicted of any crime.

Officials in Tenaha, along a heavily traveled state highway connecting Houston with several popular gambling destinations in Louisiana, say they are engaged in a battle against drug trafficking, and they call the search-and-seizure practice a legitimate use of the state's asset-forfeiture law. That law permits local police agencies to keep drug money and other property used in the commission of a crime and add the proceeds to their budgets.

"We try to enforce the law here," said George Bowers, mayor of the town of about 1,100 residents, where boarded-up businesses outnumber open ones and City Hall sports a broken window. "We're not doing this to raise money. That's all I'm going to say at this point."

But civil rights lawyers call Tenaha's practice something else: highway robbery. The attorneys have filed a federal class-action lawsuit seeking unspecified damages and a halt to what they contend is an unconstitutional perversion of the law's intent, used primarily against African Americans who have done nothing wrong.

Tenaha officials "have developed an illegal 'stop and seize' practice of targeting, stopping, detaining, searching, and often seizing property from apparently nonwhite citizens and those traveling with nonwhite citizens," asserts the lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Texas.

The property seizures are not happening just in Tenaha. In southern parts of Texas near the Mexican border, for example, Latinos allege that they are being singled out.

According to a prominent Texas state legislator, police agencies across the state are wielding the asset-forfeiture law more aggressively to supplement their shrinking operating budgets.

"If used properly, it's a good law-enforcement tool to see that crime doesn't pay," said Democratic state Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Senate's Criminal Justice Committee. "But in this instance, where people are being pulled over and their property is taken with no charges filed and no convictions, I think that's theft."



Money, minorities

David Guillory, an attorney in nearby Nacogdoches who filed the federal lawsuit, said he combed through Shelby County court records from 2006 to 2008 and discovered nearly 200 cases in which Tenaha police seized cash and property from motorists. In about 50 of the cases, suspects were charged with drug possession.

But in 147 others, Guillory said the court records showed, the police seized cash, jewelry, cellphones and sometimes even automobiles from motorists but never found any contraband or charged them with any crime. Of those, Guillory said he managed to contact 40 of the motorists directly -- and discovered that all but one of them were black.

"The whole thing is disproportionately targeted toward minorities, particularly African Americans," Guillory said. "Every one of these people is pulled over and told they did something, like, 'You drove too close to the white line.' That's not in the penal code, but it sounds plausible. None of these people have been charged with a crime; none were engaged in anything that looked criminal. The sole factor is that they had something that looked valuable."

In some cases, police used the fact that motorists were carrying large amounts of cash as evidence that they must have been involved in laundering drug money, even though Guillory said each of the drivers he contacted could account for where the money had come from and why they were carrying it -- such as for a gambling trip to Shreveport, La., or to purchase a used car from a private seller.

Once the motorists were detained, the police and the Shelby County district attorney quickly drew up legal papers presenting them with an option: Waive their rights to their cash and property or face felony charges for crimes such as money laundering -- and the prospect of having to hire a lawyer and return to Shelby County multiple times to contest the charges in court.



Apparently routine

The process apparently is so routine in Tenaha that Guillory discovered pre-signed and pre-notarized police affidavits with blank spaces left for an officer to fill in a description of the property being seized.

Jennifer Boatright, her husband and two young children -- a mixed-race family -- were traveling from Houston to visit relatives in East Texas in April 2007 when Tenaha police pulled them over, alleging that they were driving in a left-turn lane.

After searching the car, the officers discovered what Boatright said was a gift for her sister: a small, unused glass pipe made for smoking marijuana. Although they found no drugs or other contraband, the police seized $6,037 that Boatright said the family was carrying to purchase a used car -- and then threatened to turn their children, ages 10 and 1, over to Child Protective Services if the couple didn't agree to sign over their right to their cash.

"It was give them the money or they were taking our kids," Boatright said. "They suggested that we never bring it up again. We figured we better give them our cash and get the hell out of there."

Several months later, after Boatright and her husband contacted an attorney, Tenaha officials returned their money but offered no explanation or apology. The couple remain plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit.

Except for Tenaha's mayor, none of the defendants in the federal lawsuit, including Shelby County Dist. Atty. Lynda Russell and two Tenaha police officers, responded to requests for comment about their search-and-seizure practices. Lawyers for the defendants also declined to comment, as did several of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit.

But Whitmire says he doesn't need to await the suit's outcome to try to fix what he regards as a statewide problem. On Monday, he introduced a bill in the state Legislature that would require police to go before a judge before attempting to seize property under the asset-forfeiture law -- and ultimately Whitmire hopes to tighten the law further so that law-enforcement officials will be allowed to seize property only after a suspect is charged and convicted in a court.

"The law has gotten away from what was intended, which was to take the profits of a bad guy's crime spree and use it for additional crime fighting," Whitmire said. "Now it's largely being used to pay police salaries -- and it's being abused because you don't even have to be a bad guy to lose your property."

Republicans: Now that Barack Obama is president, there's no such thing as racism anymore, get over it!

Democrats: :roll:

No but seriously, a lot of Texas is racist as hell.
 

OCGuy

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Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.
 

Ronstang

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Did they really target mostly Black people or were they more likely to fall for this shit and comply?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Did they really target mostly Black people or were they more likely to fall for this shit and comply?

I'm pretty sure they're more used to getting harassed by the police. A white motorist would probably have his lawyer on speed dial.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

Luckily, the police leave white people alone.
 

Deeko

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hahahha its so cute the way you guys are defending this town in a back handed fashion.
 

Schadenfroh

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This reminds me of a trip to Mexico that one of my cousin's friends went on (~1980s).

MPO = Mexican Police Officer
CF = Cousin's Friend

Pulled over by Mexican police, police officer walks up:
MPO: I really like my new truck.
CF: ???
MPO: This really is a nice truck and I am going to enjoy it very much.
CF: Uhh, this is my truck
MPO: No greengo, you do not understand... this is my truck
CF: So, what will it take for me to keep my truck? Some cash?
MOP: Yes
 

0marTheZealot

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

Those are private citizens acting in a bad manner.

This are state officials committing a crime.

The difference is subtle, but it's there.

And secondly, just because racism exists is no reason to accept it. Cancer exists, we should just accept our fate yes?
 

tfcmasta97

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

DurkIDurr, so it doesnt matter if they're cops, they're n***ers and get what they deserve.

 

CrackRabbit

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Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

DurkIDurr, so it doesnt matter if they're cops, they're n***ers and get what they deserve.

QFWTF?

Southeast Texas is a scary place no matter what race or creed you are.
Stuff like this used to be very common in Texas, though back then you couldn't just seize someones property, just give them a hefty ticket.
Look up Selma, Texas. I'm pretty sure it took a federal lawsuit to stop the speed trap they had set up there in the 70s and 80s.
 

PokerGuy

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The fact that this stuff is happening at all should bother everyone. The fact that it's happening disproportionately to one race doesn't surprise me, but that's not the main issue. The main issue is that the forfeiture laws are clearly being abused.
 

ayabe

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It's no secret that this law has been abused and not just in TX but everywhere.

In my hometown they set up pot stings just to seize the cars of people buying dimebags, it's a great revenue generator for sure.

There are also several small towns around me who've established police departments specifically to cash in on this.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Phokus
http://www.latimes.com/news/na...09mar11,0,507135.story

A lawsuit alleges that the town's police pull over motorists -- especially African Americans -- and extort money and valuables by threatening criminal charges or worse.
By Howard Witt
March 11, 2009
Reporting from Tenaha, Texas -- You can drive into this dusty fleck of a town near the Texas-Louisiana state line if you're African American, but you might not be able to drive out of it -- at least not with your car, your cash, your jewelry or other valuables.

That's because the police here allegedly have found a way to strip motorists, many of them black, of their property without ever charging them with a crime. Instead they offer out-of-towners a grim choice: Sign over your belongings to the town, or face felony charges of money laundering or other serious crimes.



* Crime or no crime, motorists pay
Crime or no crime, motorists pay

More than 140 people reluctantly accepted that deal from June 2006 to June 2008, according to court records. Among them were a black grandmother from Akron, Ohio, who surrendered $4,000 in cash after Tenaha police pulled her over, and an interracial couple from Houston, who gave up more than $6,000 after police threatened to seize their children and put them into foster care, the court documents show. Neither the grandmother nor the couple were charged with or convicted of any crime.

Officials in Tenaha, along a heavily traveled state highway connecting Houston with several popular gambling destinations in Louisiana, say they are engaged in a battle against drug trafficking, and they call the search-and-seizure practice a legitimate use of the state's asset-forfeiture law. That law permits local police agencies to keep drug money and other property used in the commission of a crime and add the proceeds to their budgets.

"We try to enforce the law here," said George Bowers, mayor of the town of about 1,100 residents, where boarded-up businesses outnumber open ones and City Hall sports a broken window. "We're not doing this to raise money. That's all I'm going to say at this point."

But civil rights lawyers call Tenaha's practice something else: highway robbery. The attorneys have filed a federal class-action lawsuit seeking unspecified damages and a halt to what they contend is an unconstitutional perversion of the law's intent, used primarily against African Americans who have done nothing wrong.

Tenaha officials "have developed an illegal 'stop and seize' practice of targeting, stopping, detaining, searching, and often seizing property from apparently nonwhite citizens and those traveling with nonwhite citizens," asserts the lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Texas.

The property seizures are not happening just in Tenaha. In southern parts of Texas near the Mexican border, for example, Latinos allege that they are being singled out.

According to a prominent Texas state legislator, police agencies across the state are wielding the asset-forfeiture law more aggressively to supplement their shrinking operating budgets.

"If used properly, it's a good law-enforcement tool to see that crime doesn't pay," said Democratic state Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Senate's Criminal Justice Committee. "But in this instance, where people are being pulled over and their property is taken with no charges filed and no convictions, I think that's theft."



Money, minorities

David Guillory, an attorney in nearby Nacogdoches who filed the federal lawsuit, said he combed through Shelby County court records from 2006 to 2008 and discovered nearly 200 cases in which Tenaha police seized cash and property from motorists. In about 50 of the cases, suspects were charged with drug possession.

But in 147 others, Guillory said the court records showed, the police seized cash, jewelry, cellphones and sometimes even automobiles from motorists but never found any contraband or charged them with any crime. Of those, Guillory said he managed to contact 40 of the motorists directly -- and discovered that all but one of them were black.

"The whole thing is disproportionately targeted toward minorities, particularly African Americans," Guillory said. "Every one of these people is pulled over and told they did something, like, 'You drove too close to the white line.' That's not in the penal code, but it sounds plausible. None of these people have been charged with a crime; none were engaged in anything that looked criminal. The sole factor is that they had something that looked valuable."

In some cases, police used the fact that motorists were carrying large amounts of cash as evidence that they must have been involved in laundering drug money, even though Guillory said each of the drivers he contacted could account for where the money had come from and why they were carrying it -- such as for a gambling trip to Shreveport, La., or to purchase a used car from a private seller.

Once the motorists were detained, the police and the Shelby County district attorney quickly drew up legal papers presenting them with an option: Waive their rights to their cash and property or face felony charges for crimes such as money laundering -- and the prospect of having to hire a lawyer and return to Shelby County multiple times to contest the charges in court.



Apparently routine

The process apparently is so routine in Tenaha that Guillory discovered pre-signed and pre-notarized police affidavits with blank spaces left for an officer to fill in a description of the property being seized.

Jennifer Boatright, her husband and two young children -- a mixed-race family -- were traveling from Houston to visit relatives in East Texas in April 2007 when Tenaha police pulled them over, alleging that they were driving in a left-turn lane.

After searching the car, the officers discovered what Boatright said was a gift for her sister: a small, unused glass pipe made for smoking marijuana. Although they found no drugs or other contraband, the police seized $6,037 that Boatright said the family was carrying to purchase a used car -- and then threatened to turn their children, ages 10 and 1, over to Child Protective Services if the couple didn't agree to sign over their right to their cash.

"It was give them the money or they were taking our kids," Boatright said. "They suggested that we never bring it up again. We figured we better give them our cash and get the hell out of there."

Several months later, after Boatright and her husband contacted an attorney, Tenaha officials returned their money but offered no explanation or apology. The couple remain plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit.

Except for Tenaha's mayor, none of the defendants in the federal lawsuit, including Shelby County Dist. Atty. Lynda Russell and two Tenaha police officers, responded to requests for comment about their search-and-seizure practices. Lawyers for the defendants also declined to comment, as did several of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit.

But Whitmire says he doesn't need to await the suit's outcome to try to fix what he regards as a statewide problem. On Monday, he introduced a bill in the state Legislature that would require police to go before a judge before attempting to seize property under the asset-forfeiture law -- and ultimately Whitmire hopes to tighten the law further so that law-enforcement officials will be allowed to seize property only after a suspect is charged and convicted in a court.

"The law has gotten away from what was intended, which was to take the profits of a bad guy's crime spree and use it for additional crime fighting," Whitmire said. "Now it's largely being used to pay police salaries -- and it's being abused because you don't even have to be a bad guy to lose your property."

Republicans: Now that Barack Obama is president, there's no such thing as racism anymore, get over it!

Democrats: :roll:

No but seriously, a lot of Texas is racist as hell.

Want a tissue?
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

Luckily, the police leave white people alone.

Are you suggesting all the police are white?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

Luckily, the police leave white people alone.

Are you suggesting all the police are white?

No they just treat people different based on things like race and age.
 

Brovane

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This is really about the abuse of Asset Forfeiture laws by the Law Enforcement. You should be required to secure a conviction before you seize a asset. As it stands right now you don't even have to get a conviction.
 

txrandom

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In case people were wondering, Tenaha has roughly the same proportion of blacks and whites.
 

Zebo

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I also think the bigger issue here is the insane assets forfeiture laws that started in the 80's...
 

LTC8K6

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This is not new or limited to blacks or even limited to motorists.

Many police departments have been running this asset forfeiture scam all over the place.

I remember stories from several states over the years.

You can have this happen to you at the airport if you have too much cash on you.

 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Did they really target mostly Black people or were they more likely to fall for this shit and comply?

Good point.

But Jeebus, this story in the OP sounds like something out of a bad horror flick.

The feds need to jump all over this and kick some a$$.

Cudos to the lawyer who spent his time figuring this all out. :thumbsup:

Fern
 

AAjax

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Originally posted by: Brovane
This is really about the abuse of Asset Forfeiture laws by the Law Enforcement. You should be required to secure a conviction before you seize a asset. As it stands right now you don't even have to get a conviction.

Heck, you dont even have to be charged.
 

halik

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People are idiots,
even if you had a glass pipe in the car, why the hell would you let some hick cops hassle you? Glass pipes aren't illegal and you need actual probable cause to search someone's car. If that happened to me, that settlement from the cop's B.S. harassment would pay for my grad school loans.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
This reminds me of a trip to Mexico that one of my cousin's friends went on (~1980s).

MPO = Mexican Police Officer
CF = Cousin's Friend

Pulled over by Mexican police, police officer walks up:
MPO: I really like my new truck.
CF: ???
MPO: This really is a nice truck and I am going to enjoy it very much.
CF: Uhh, this is my truck
MPO: No greengo, you do not understand... this is my truck
CF: So, what will it take for me to keep my truck? Some cash?
MOP: Yes

Yep.

I saw the same thing when I traveled through Mexico in the late 70's

I took a bus from Nuevo Larado (sp?) down to Mexico City.

The Mexican police would block the highway in desolate places and stop the bus. Then they would board and shake down the passengers for money. The corruption was amazing.

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Walking through parts of LA and every other big city at night is dangerous if you are white.

Walking through certain parts of town as a Mexican can get you killed by a black.


Racism is everywhere, on all sides.

Those are private citizens acting in a bad manner.

This are state officials committing a crime.

The difference is subtle, but it's there.

And secondly, just because racism exists is no reason to accept it. Cancer exists, we should just accept our fate yes?


Here in is the main culprit behind racism. Idiots like you. So you say those are private citizens acting in a bad manner. They're killing people. Last I checked it's a crime, BUT if you're black, you can kill a white person and it's not a hate crime, if you're white, it automatically becomes a hate crime if you kill a black guy.

Racism exists, and will always exist as long as there is more than one race.
What I want to know is why were these people driving with that much cash on hand?
I can understand going to the casinos and winning a few hundred bucks, but shit, those cops must be clairvoint if they can seem to stop every car that has a black person in it with thousands of dollars of valuables with them. Hell I don't think I have more than $30 worth of stuff in my truck. Now the $600 gun on my hip might make them reconsider trying to shake me down.